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10-21-2014 12:06 AM  4 years ago
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carzan

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All this silence is curious to me
I have been looking at getting a 600 or 700 size electric. Lots of reasons but that's not why I started this thread. The 690sx is one helicopter I seem to be interested in however, there is very little discussion of it here. I lurked over on the freak and there does seem to be a bit more discussion on the 690 there but being that I really don't like that site or the peeps who run it, I won't post there.

So why isn't there more talk about this helicopter? I realize it is a relatively new heli but it just doesn't seem that the airframe has gone over very well among the flying public. What's the real deal with this helicopter?

As always, input is appreciated!
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10-21-2014 12:14 AM  4 years ago
cudaboy_71

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Because everyone is out flying them and not wrenching on them.

Its a really great, versitile Heli if you want a 2000 rpm 700.
if it ain't broke, break it.
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10-21-2014 01:09 AM  4 years ago
carzan

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Seems really odd that the fans aren't on here with all the normal talk about how great the helicopter is.

I do understand that there also aren't a lot of negative posts either. But that seems to be limited to this forum.

I have been away for a while, so is over 2000 HS on a 700 really the norm now? Seems a little radical to me. But then I'm old!
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10-21-2014 01:26 AM  4 years ago
Retired2011

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so is over 2000 HS on a 700 really the norm now?
Not for most!

At least four 690's at my field, and everybody absolutely loves them...
as said, everyone's too busy flying to post much.
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10-21-2014 01:31 AM  4 years ago
carzan

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So, with the motor and pinion that comes in the combo what is the RPM range you can expect from this 700?

Anybody
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10-21-2014 01:50 AM  4 years ago
gologo

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Afraid I can't comment on the 690, but IMO it is just a fresher, more
modern version of the 600se, and I can certainly vouch for that one! Just
absolutely one great all around flyer. If I didn't have the Goblin as a
sidekick to the 600se, the 690sx would be sitting here in the house right
now!
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10-21-2014 05:17 AM  4 years ago
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Carzan,
I am using the stock motor and pinion on my 690sx along with a YGE160 ESC. For rpm range, I have flown it from 800-2000. My normal setup is 1600/1800/2000. I also own a 550sx and a 550se. The 690 and 550se fly similar, except where the 550 runs out of steam, the 690 will power through. The 690 handles wind much better as well. I just put a set of Helix blades on it last week and now it fly's even better than with edge or rail blades.

KevinB
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10-21-2014 05:37 AM  4 years ago
carzan

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Thanks for the replies everyone.
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10-21-2014 06:15 AM  4 years ago
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I know I will get hammered for this but here is my opinion.

Mikado missed the mark with everything since the Logo 600. The 800 was a complete flop and came out when they should have come out with a true 700 size heli.

When they do finally come out with a 700, it's too big in my opinion. It towers over every other 700 class heli in the market. If the 800 wasn't already in production, you would have thought the 700 was a 800!

The 700 should have been designated the 800 or at least a 750 and they should have built a true 700 class heli. Instead, they now have two heli's that are beautiful in design and outstanding quality that are heavy in comparison to every other 700 heli in this class.

Now fast forward until recent when everyone is hoping and anticipating for (at least I was) a "real" 700 size heli or maybe a 650 Extreme by Mikado's size standards. Instead... they give us a stretched Logo 600 with a few upgrades.

I personally lost interest with Mikado after the 690 offering. Please don't get me wrong, I think Mikado's quality and design is outstanding and I use Vbar for everything I own! I just wish they would have listened to their customers requests.
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10-21-2014 11:24 AM  4 years ago
Retired2011

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I just wish they would have listened to their customers requests.
They did...
It's just that your opinion, apparently, is different than most.

From what I read everyone loves their 700XX.
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10-21-2014 12:12 PM  4 years ago
hams

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They did...
It's just that your opinion, apparently, is different than most.
From what I read everyone loves their 700XX.
The 4 or 5 that they have sold.....

Almost everyone I knew at the time was hoping for a true plastic 700. Now, with Mikado pushing everyone towards the vcontrol, I know of many who have jumped ship altogether. Mainly towards the Spartan system.

All of this is my opinion of course.....
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10-21-2014 12:23 PM  4 years ago
Ronald Thomas

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Where did you get that info from? Strange....
Mikado's 700 offerings now currently hold the line. People said the XX was heavy and would not fly well, obviously not the case as it is a plain beast to fly and weighs in the same category of the Goblin, X-7 and so on.
The 690 is a lightweight point and click heli as well. After the first initial hiccup with the one way, which was solved quickly and at NO COST to the customer, it has been a proven flyer. Let's just say I "push" mine on purpose to see if it would fail and it has never let me down. I will say this, I went to a high altitude area this weekend and setups differ DRAMATICALLY when you are 9000 ft above sea level!!!!
Either will cure what ails you
Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!
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10-21-2014 01:02 PM  4 years ago
hams

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From the various funflies I attend...I have yet to see a 700 that was not owned by a team pilot at any of them. Don't get me wrong, I still fly vbar and have 2 600s. Just not happy with the direction Mikado has taken in the last couple years.
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10-21-2014 02:44 PM  4 years ago
Ronald Thomas

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Ever been to OHB, IRCHA, Heli Extravaganza, Port St Lucie…etc? I always see them but then again I know certain brands do well in parts of the country that others do not so….Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!
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10-21-2014 03:15 PM  4 years ago
buster1

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I think its quiet because:
-The setups are straight forward and proven.
-If you buy a programmed ESC with the combo kit - its plug and play.
The combo kits are figured out - there is no guessing - you just build it and it fly's great.
-The helicopters are very reliable.
-They work and no real problems anymore.
-Ron always answers my questions

People are out flying them. I looked on the other major manufacturer threads and they are also quiet.

Economy may also be an issue - not as much disposable cash to throw around on new stuff.

Have a good day,
Jeff
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10-21-2014 03:19 PM  4 years ago
carzan

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ok, I have a question.

Why is it not a "true" 700?

Is it because of limited gearing? Is it because the frames are not larger than the 600? Exactly why do I keep seeing some peeps post that it is merely a "stretch" of the 600?

I may be all wet here but aren't all 700's truthfully just longer versions of their little brothers?
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10-21-2014 03:28 PM  4 years ago
Funky Trex

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If I was in the market for another 700, the Logo 690 would be it. I think Logo addressed a lot of the issues with the 550/600 and made a great light weight 700 with excellent air presence.
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10-21-2014 06:29 PM  4 years ago
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Why is it not a "true" 700?
Because most modern day 700s are able to handle high headspeeds of 2100 to 2300 RPM and not self destruct.

The reasons why you won't find much about the 690 is what people have already said - it is basically a stretched Logo 600 or an improved 600 SE. These models have already been thoroughly vetted. Not really much to talk about. If you want a low headspeed 700 (low by today's standards), the Logo 690 is a great choice.

I have the Logo Xxtreme 700. It is not heavy and at 2100 HS has plenty of pop! Flight times are a bit short though. The Logo 690 will get more flight time due to its lightweight, mostly due to the plastic frame.

Before the Xxtreme 700 came out (and Xx800 before that), everyone was waiting for Mikado to come out with a larger, more robust plastic frame for use in a true 700 to take advantage of the low weight but still strong enough to handle 700 class blades at high headspeed. Sadly, Mikado did not do that, but I hold out hope they eventually will.

Personally, I was not interested in the 690, a stretched 600.
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10-21-2014 08:30 PM  4 years ago
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I'm with ghost rider for most of his post.
I bought the 690 as a personally felt the extreme was heavy, I'm not taking any thing away from mikado as I think they have some of the best models out there.
I would of liked to see a lighter true 700 size model as well, like it has been mentioned before I think the 700 xxtreme is more a 750 class model and could easy be stretched to 800 class. I think the machine is awesome as are most of there machines.
Back to the 690 great machine it flys well and has that logo feel which I personally love.
I know this machine shares the plastic frame set from the famous logo 500 / 600 models which is great and works well, I would of liked to see at the very least a larger set of these frames to give you a bigger battery compartment, but they didn't and the model is still great.
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10-21-2014 11:35 PM  4 years ago
Ghostrider

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Let me put it in another way....

If Mikado built a 650 Xxtreme by their standards OR a larger 700 plastic framed heli, I think they would own the market share!
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