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10-20-2014 05:31 PM  3 years agoPost 1
ZS-JAF

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I have a 3D heli, I don't understand why it doesn't do 3D.

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10-20-2014 05:37 PM  3 years agoPost 2
michael88997

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well the full story on that was the guy lied about having lipos and didn't pack them well so they shorted

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10-20-2014 06:38 PM  3 years agoPost 3
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In the US, you do not check lipo batteries for the cargo hold, you carry them on board into the passenger cabin. That allows you to know immediately that a problem exists.

Yes they are dangerous, yes they release a lot of smoke, but usually they are not going to bring down a plane.

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10-21-2014 01:41 AM  3 years agoPost 4
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Really?
Hmmm.... we were told that you can have one set in the model (checked) and a spare. To go to the World Champs we MUST ship them early and not depend on carrying batteries with us.

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10-21-2014 11:27 AM  3 years agoPost 5
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There is another thread here on RunRyder all about this topic. Look up the TSA requirements and have a copy with you at all times in the airport. You are allowed so many grams equivalent of Lithium equivalent batteries, and that is not the total weight of the battery. If flying internationally, you should also review destination countries rules.

AFAIK, an individual cannot ship lipo batteries within the US without a permit. At the shipping office (post office), that is one of the questions they will be asking when they receive the package for shipment. Funny how we can receive them but cannot return them.

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10-21-2014 12:15 PM  3 years agoPost 6
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Having JUST gone through this literally yesterday (going and returning from Colombia) let me tell you how it works.
FIRST OF ALL, KNOW the regulations as I had no issues leaving and returning for 3 out of four flights but in the last flight to Orlando from Ft Lauderdale, I ran into a TSA agent that was on a power trip. When I quoted TO THE LETTER the regulation and showed him where I followed it to a tee, he let me pass begrudgingly. Here are the regs:
First, you can carry as many lipos as you want in a CARRY ON as long as they are under 100 watt/hr (multiply nominal voltage x amperage so 22.2 x 4.1 (6s 4100 mah) for 91.02 amp hours). You may only carry (2) lipos BETWEEN 100 and 300 Amp hours and NONE over 300 amp hours.
Secondly, all lipos must be terminated with insulated terminals (I had EC-5s) and those terminals have to be taped down to prevent movement. TSA wants the lipos to be their original boxes but if you do not have them, it is ok HOWEVER all lipos have to be secured in a hard case that cannot be bent (I used an Align case).
Also plan for an extra 1/2 hour per TSA stop to be sure you have time, they will not rush for ANY reason.
Call the TSA supervisor for every airport you plan to travel to and from to ensure there are no misunderstandings and get that persons approval and name for added security.
Lastly call your airline and be sure they don't have EXTRA guidelines concerning batteries (these regs apply to ALL BATTERIES) as they still have the last right of refusal. Hope that is clear as mud ......Ron

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10-21-2014 12:48 PM  3 years agoPost 7
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Lipos release a TON of smoke. If they go up, you will be responsible. The regulations are being looked at very closely right now so just be careful.

I have a 3D heli, I don't understand why it doesn't do 3D.

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10-21-2014 04:59 PM  3 years agoPost 8
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yes they do. this was a 6s 3700mah pack attached to a dynatron starter that fell less than 2' to the concrete out of my flightbox on the way to my truck.

When all was said and done there was a 200' pillar of white smoke. I can't imagine dealing with that in a plane.

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10-21-2014 07:59 PM  3 years agoPost 9
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I can't imagine dealing with that in a plane.
Yeah, I'll bet if you caused a mess like that on a plane you'd have a huge problem on your hands...following the rules or not.

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10-21-2014 11:27 PM  3 years agoPost 10
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I've always wondered about taking Lipo's on planes. I wonder what else people have packed in their bags.

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10-21-2014 11:30 PM  3 years agoPost 11
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A damaged LiPo can only generate a lot of smoke if it is fully charged. You should NOT be carrying charged LiPo batteries on an airplane!

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10-22-2014 01:30 AM  3 years agoPost 12
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I wonder what else people have packed in their bags.
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10-22-2014 04:44 AM  3 years agoPost 13
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rexxigpilot
A damaged LiPo can only generate a lot of smoke if it is fully charged. You should NOT be carrying charged LiPo batteries on an airplane
they can catch fire with less than a half charge as well specially a 6s 22v pack

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10-22-2014 02:41 PM  3 years agoPost 14
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they can catch fire with less than a half charge as well specially a 6s 22v pack
My experience shows that not to be the case. I have shot bullets and driven nails into several LiPo packs in various states of charge just to see what happens. The only ones that caught fire or even smoked much were the fully charged packs.

I guess under some special circumstances a pack in storage charge could smoke a lot, but it likely won't become a torch like a fully charged one can when shorted.

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10-22-2014 09:07 PM  3 years agoPost 15
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I've seen a fairly well depleted pack fill up the whole valley where our field is with smoke, when punctured with a screwdriver.

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10-23-2014 01:30 AM  3 years agoPost 16
RICH.L

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had an old puffed up thunder power 3s 2200 pack and was discharged,hit it with a pitchfork and shot flames up at least a foot and smoked like crazy!

have to see if my daughter still has the video.
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10-27-2014 06:48 AM  3 years agoPost 17
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The UPS 747 that crashed in Dubai Sept 03, 2010 was caused by lithium batteries. Killed both pilots.

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10-27-2014 11:41 AM  3 years agoPost 18
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Crash caused by fire of bulk (1,000s) of Litium-Ion (not Li-Po) batteries in cargo hold. Not exactly the same thing, and crash partially caused by pilots turning off all air-conditioning units in cockpit. Further, bulk litium-ion and presumably Lithium-polimer batteries are no longer shipped on passenger flights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPS_Airlines_Flight_6

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