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08-19-2014 03:29 AM  4 years agoPost 81
HS748

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And this is what happens when you can start to think for yourself, rather than being force feed your "beliefs"

More than one-quarter of American adults (28%) have left the faith in which they were raised in favor of another religion - or no religion at all. If change in affiliation from one type of Protestantism to another is included, 44% of adults have either switched religious affiliation, moved from being unaffiliated with any religion to being affiliated with a particular faith, or dropped any connection to a specific religious tradition altogether.

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08-19-2014 03:32 AM  4 years agoPost 82
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These numbers show there are more people who don't believe in your "god", so I am not in the minority.
But, those religions and gods are false in your eyes, correct??

These numbers clearly show I not in the minority.
There are more people who don't believe in "god" than do.
Why do you think there are thousands of religions?
Do all those gods exist, or just "yours"???
Maybe Islam is truth, and Christianity is false?

There are literally thousands of religions being practiced today. Here are 20 of the most popular, along with an estimate of the number of followers:
Christianity: 2.1 billion
Islam: 1.3 billion
Hinduism: 900 million
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
Spiritism: 15 million
Judaism: 14 million
Baha'i: 7 million
Jainism: 4.2 million
Shinto: 4 million
Cao Dai: 4 million
Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
Tenrikyo: 2 million
Neo-Paganism: 1 million
Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
Scientology: 500 thousand

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08-19-2014 03:33 AM  4 years agoPost 83
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http://www.allabouthow.com/how-can-...ieve-in-god.htm

Here is some more world views

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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08-19-2014 03:36 AM  4 years agoPost 84
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Again, there are more people who don't believe Christianity, than do.

Simple math from the above post. But, you'd rather believe in fairy tales and stories of magic, rather than provable math.

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08-19-2014 03:43 AM  4 years agoPost 85
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When you look at different religions, they usually contain "magic." For example:

The Mormon religion contains the magical golden plates, the magical angel, the magical seer stones, the magical ascension of the plates into heaven, etc.

The Muslim faith contains the magical angel, the magical flying horse, the magical voices, the magical prophet, etc.

The Christian faith contains the magical insemination, the magical star, the magical dreams, the magical miracles, the magical resurrection, the magical ascension and so on.
The presence of "magic" is a clear marker for "imaginary." For example, how do we know that Santa is imaginary? Because (among other things) he has eight magical flying reindeer. How do we know that Jack and the Beanstalk is a fairy tale? Because (among other things) the story contains magical seeds. In the same way, how do we know that God is make believe? Because God is surrounded by magic.

According to believers, God is an all-powerful being who has the divine, magical power to do anything. How do we know that this belief is a fairy tale? One way to know is to try to invoke God's magical power. For example, as described in Proof #1, the Bible tells us in many places that God answers prayers. However, whenever we try to pray, we notice that nothing happens.That tells us that God is completely imaginary. The magical powers ascribed to him are a fairy tale.

Another way to know is to read the stories of magical events in the Bible. There is the magical flood, yet we know with certainty that the flood never happened. There are the magical miracles of Jesus, but (predictably) none of these miracles left behind any tangible evidence. There is the magical resurrection, yet there is zero evidence that it ever occured and no reason to believe it.

God is identical to Leprechauns, mermaids and Santa. God is a magical fairy tale creature. The magic surrounding God tells us that God is imaginary.

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08-19-2014 11:36 AM  4 years agoPost 86
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Hoggy as I said in the begining I do not agree with or defend what has happened in the catholic church. As far as why they have tried to deal with as much as this internally is because biblically all things should be depth with by Gods law first. In other words WWJD. They did brake laws but these laws are different in every country so each situation has to be dealt with seperatally. They also have made efforts to help those children effected.
I think it's obvious mistakes were made on that we agree. Your point about trying to deal with it in Gods laws first is the key mistake as Gods law is not valid as you would first need to prove that there is a god and second that he wrote them. The laws in the individual countries are valid. Efforts made to help the children that did not include a public apology and the offender being offered up for prosecution mean nothing.
Hoggy if you don't understand the role of the church you shoud study up and learn somthing as you obviously are greatly uneducated.
Oh great Thomas please tell what is the role of the church? be clear and concise.
Now as the op claims that the catholic church has soooo much and they have sooo much influence then why have they not taken over the world? What has restricted them from this feat?
If you don't understand the reasons and how much power the church has had and why it no longer does you should study up on history as you obviously are greatly uneducated.
Lastly hoggy to blame the church for millions of deaths because they teach abstinence is just plain stupid.
I didn't blame teaching abstinence I blamed teaching that condoms that have been proven to stop the transmission of STD's are evil to be the problem. Teaching abstinence is stupid it's unnatural and goes against our evolutionary programing, abstinence clearly doesn't work HIV is spreading in less devolved countries. The church in this case has the influence to promote the use of condoms yet instead condemn using them. So yes the church is responsible for the spread of HIV and the deaths of millions.

Abstinence please answer these questions honestly.
Did you have sex before you were married?
Have you had more then one wife?
Have you had sexual relations with more then one woman?
You and esco must be sharing talking points . He claims the goverment is creating all the blk criminals now.
Man that's just low I thought your moral standards were better then that. Next time just call me a C**T I don't talk to Esco

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08-19-2014 11:51 AM  4 years agoPost 87
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Abstinence please answer these questions honestly.
Did you have sex before you were married?
Have you had more then one wife?
Have you had sexual relations with more then one woman?
For what its worth
#1:we did fool around before we were married but to a limited extent so by definition yes
#2 no been married to my one and only for 36 years today!
#3 reread #2 my one and only!
Oh great Thomas please tell what is the role of the church?
To clarify I am talking about God rules for the role of his church . I'm not speaking of or for the catholic church.

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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08-19-2014 02:44 PM  4 years agoPost 88
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They introduce Pure Heretic Behavior of SELF -{ a Long List } in droplet's with intention as a Poison to pollute the Well :

The one they are living in and drinking from

Why their Home land is a pile of rubbish smoldering away and rotting in death and fly's.

The reason for their Exodus - to Bounty and Beauty :Still don't like it.

It's WONDERFUL and YET they do Not believe

GOD's Mystery's are FILLED with Variety :

Wait - Then WAIT longer

They will be asked why they kick against the goad's from you KNOW WHO What is in their HEART -If it will be received - CONVICTION

Then the Face to Face Conversion : When they MEET HIM in their heart

The Power of the GOSPEL : When some thing happens in their HEART

Wait for the NEW CREATURE's

KNOW : SAUL - The 1st Question

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08-19-2014 03:59 PM  4 years agoPost 89
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Kneel before your one true God.

He has magical incantations for sucking tree sap.

His wisdom is universal truth.

You were created in his image.

All hail the master...he has returned to judge your tree sap sucking abilities. He arose from a darkened cave many moons ago. His brethren passed on their genetic code so that you could have life.

He sacrificed himself on the cross of evolution for your stupidity. He instilled his fears and ignorance in you, so that you could perpetuate 100 million years of bloodshed and violence.

His genetic code is incontrovertible.

He is you.

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08-19-2014 04:05 PM  4 years agoPost 90
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There are valid reasons why atheists are still the most despised and least trusted group of people in America.

http://atheism.about.com/od/atheist...theitsHated.htm

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-19-2014 04:23 PM  4 years agoPost 91
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They Only have TWO Choices and One WORD

Why they enjoy their Journey Know the accordingly

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08-19-2014 04:33 PM  4 years agoPost 92
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There are valid reasons why atheists are still the most despised and least trusted group of people in America.
Your link indicates that the "valid" reasons are based on fear, paranoia, and ignorance.

The wee little sap sucking God wins again.

He is you.

edit: For the record, I do believe that God exists at some level. I simply do not believe in a God created by fearful monkeys.

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08-19-2014 04:48 PM  4 years agoPost 93
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Note who is on the Helm of that ship : and where it is going.

The Ocean It's Tempest and the WAVE : The 1st and Foremost of the accurate description. The malady of SOUL.

Depravity of MAN : Intellectually resistant

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08-19-2014 04:51 PM  4 years agoPost 94
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Depravity of MAN : Intellectually resistant
Depravity of monkey : Intellectually resistant.

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08-19-2014 06:33 PM  4 years agoPost 95
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Again, there are more people who don't believe Christianity, than do.
Simple math from the above post. But, you'd rather believe in fairy tales and stories of magic, rather than provable math.
Again that is not the question .

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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08-19-2014 06:51 PM  4 years agoPost 96
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The next day Pope Francis surprised many by offering a defense of atheists, saying that atheists can do good -- and that religious people and atheists can "meet one another" by doing good together.

What was most remarkable about these three incidents wasn't simply that each was about atheists, or that they made headlines. Rather it was that they showed atheists in a positive light. They demonstrated the reality that most atheists are kind, moral individuals.

This seemingly simple fact shouldn't be notable, but it is. Unfortunately and unfairly, atheism is commonly associated with a set of negative stereotypes that are bolstered and reinforced when the primary public representations of atheism are voices of conflict. It frequently seems that atheists mostly make headlines when an organization such as American Atheists puts up a billboard like one that claimed that Christianity has a "sadistic god" and "useless savior" and that it "promotes hate." When stories like that represent the most visible public expressions of atheism, it's no wonder many people seem to think atheism is a synonym for antitheism.

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08-19-2014 08:21 PM  4 years agoPost 97
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The next day Pope Francis surprised many by offering a defense of atheists, saying that atheists can do good -- and that religious people and atheists can "meet one another" by doing good together.
Of course they can.

And, I am sure they do at times.

There are atheists that are polite and respectful of others.

But, not with a nasty, foul mouthed little turd that gets off putting people down just because they believe. That is no way to make friends and influence people.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-19-2014 08:33 PM  4 years agoPost 98
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Kneel before your one true God.He has magical incantations for sucking tree sap.His wisdom is universal truth.You were created in his image.All hail the master...he has returned to judge your tree sap sucking abilities. He arose from a darkened cave many moons ago. His brethren passed on their genetic code so that you could have life.He sacrificed himself on the cross of evolution for your stupidity. He instilled his fears and ignorance in you, so that you could perpetuate 100 million years of bloodshed and violence.His genetic code is incontrovertible.He is you.
Hey Wave.....it's all just a load of b.s., right? Meant to enslave the feeble-minded, and cause wars, right?

Wouldn't the world be a far better place, run by rational-thinking athiests, who would employ their superior intellect, instead of chasing fairytales, as these so-called "believers" do?

As John Lennon sang..."Imagine there's no heaven. ..."

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08-19-2014 08:45 PM  4 years agoPost 99
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The world would be a better place if it had more Joseph Stalins and fewer Joseph Smiths. ;-)

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08-19-2014 08:55 PM  4 years agoPost 100
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Hey Wave.....it's all just a load of b.s., right? Meant to enslave the feeble-minded, and cause wars, right?
When the first homosapians gathered together in groups, they began to communicate, and discuss ideas. It was a completely natural thing to do, driven by curiosity, and a desire to understand the world around us.

Certain individuals rose to higher stature in the tribe by claiming to understand why the winds blew, or the rains fell. These shamans were given power, prestige, and rank above all others because of their seeming all knowing " power ", and knowledge of nature.

It was a natural progression for individuals to create religions, Gods, and ideology, not strictly for the control of others ( although it did lend itself to control of the group )but also as a way of calming the fears of not really knowing what life was all was about.

So...B.S ? Not really.

Just a natural progression for evolving primates.
Wouldn't the world be a far better place, run by rational-thinking athiests, who would employ their superior intellect, instead of chasing fairytales, as these so-called "believers" do?
Humanity may just have a chance if that happened.

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