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08-24-2014 10:40 PM  3 years agoPost 261
BobOD

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Indeed. FPV does not equal Bazooka.
I hope you do get to continue your hobby and that the gov does not screw it up too bad. I also wish the irresponsible ones would help out with that. It looks like a very fun thing to do.

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08-24-2014 11:38 PM  3 years agoPost 262
revmix

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Not sure if we're moving towards a consensus or not....
does not really matter, some take the hobby & the forum too seriously, both spending spare time, not all hobbyists care how a specific toy/machine is called,

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08-24-2014 11:46 PM  3 years agoPost 263
carzan

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carzan,
If I may intercede. This is my compare and contrast interpretation of a Drone pilot and FPV / AP pilot.
That's interesting but isn't it really the same end with very different investment levels to accomplish that end?

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08-24-2014 11:53 PM  3 years agoPost 264
M. Fortin

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It's funny to see how this has become about FPV when that is the least of what this is all about.

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08-25-2014 12:01 AM  3 years agoPost 265
unclejane

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Sorry, it was mostly me instigating it after Refabs (good, IMO) point about the "visual line of sight" situation. At least now we're talking about "drones", which is another kind of gray area...

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08-25-2014 12:19 AM  3 years agoPost 266
M. Fortin

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Model aircraft in general has become a gray area. Planes, Helis or quads it's all the same at this point.

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08-25-2014 12:34 AM  3 years agoPost 267
revmix

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about FPV when that is the least of what this is all about.
well, actually FPV is the major part of it because being banned by the Feds & r/c model aircraft VLOS plane/heli/multirotor even camera-drone are not

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08-25-2014 01:09 AM  3 years agoPost 268
BobOD

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FPV is the main target. We'll likely be able to continue vlos as we've been doing prior.

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08-25-2014 01:24 AM  3 years agoPost 269
Retired2011

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FPV is the main target. We'll likely be able to continue vlos as we've been doing prior.
Well sh!t, does that mean Jane is going to have to learn to fly a heli again?

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08-25-2014 03:12 AM  3 years agoPost 270
M. Fortin

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FPV is not the main target, it's one of many things but hardly the main.

The commercial interest is the main target and affects the widest segment of pilots from hobby to commercial.

Drone Factory USA

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08-25-2014 03:21 AM  3 years agoPost 271
unclejane

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Well sh!t, does that mean Jane is going to have to learn to fly a heli again?
Don't even think things like that...

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08-25-2014 03:26 AM  3 years agoPost 272
unclejane

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FPV is not the main target, it's one of many things but hardly the main.
The commercial interest is the main target and affects the widest segment of pilots from hobby to commercial.
Unfortunately, you're right again. FPV gets most of my attention because it's the nearest/dearest to my heart. But the commercial ops are really what the FAA has the Woodie about.

It turns out, tho, that that's the FAA's largest Woodie in all other areas of aviation as well. Commercial operation of anything that flies through the air, the FAA wants not only their hands in, but their feet and toes and everything else too. That's how they've always been....
I know that's no consolation, but it does show what to expect. Namely, that that bit they won't let out of their teeth no matter what. They may give us back FPV in some form or other, but no way no how will they give back commercial ops without something hideous all over it.

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08-25-2014 03:33 AM  3 years agoPost 273
M. Fortin

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Commercial applications have such a broad reach it's unreal.

No magazines, no demo pilots, no 3d schools and that is just a couple ways it affects the hobby. There is much much more if you wanted to get into it.

Let alone people that are flying sUAS "drones" for commercial purposes.

Drone Factory USA

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08-25-2014 03:36 AM  3 years agoPost 274
revmix

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affects the widest segment
commercial activity was never part of the hobby related r/c flying, some tried to mix pleasure with business operating under hobby rules & the end result is the Interpretation issued,
AMA promoted FPV although usage was not clear by the law for r/c model

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08-25-2014 01:06 PM  3 years agoPost 275
M. Fortin

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Commercial has always been part of the hobby for the 14 years I've been flying.

All the sponsored pilots, demos, magazines and so forth.

Commercializations of the hobby is nothing new it's just new to the FAA.

People have been putting cameras on RC planes for over 30 years and some have done it for pleasure and others for profit but it's by no means something new.

Drone Factory USA

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08-25-2014 01:12 PM  3 years agoPost 276
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Enjoy the hope and change !!!!!!!!

I dream of a better world, A world where a chicken's crossing a road IS NOT questioned

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08-25-2014 02:11 PM  3 years agoPost 277
M. Fortin

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Ah, an Obama reference.

Way to go. SMH

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08-25-2014 02:37 PM  3 years agoPost 278
revmix

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part of the hobby for the 14 years
since 2012 PL112-95/336 has been in effect,
and as of today just wait & see what happens with the Interpretation, most of it [if not all] will stand
cameras on RC planes for over 30 years
camera usage is still okay for hobby, and also for commercial in a separate category
others for profit
any business has to be licensed [local, state, federal], why would the AP Drone operation be any different? no special privilege applies
and so forth
thread is going in circle

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08-25-2014 03:11 PM  3 years agoPost 279
1helimech

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REVMIX ARE YOU AN FAA DRONE CUZ YOUS SHORE DOSE SOUND LIKE ONE....

I dream of a better world, A world where a chicken's crossing a road IS NOT questioned

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08-25-2014 03:14 PM  3 years agoPost 280
revmix

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nah, just reality

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