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03-19-2015 02:29 AM  3 years agoPost 21
rcflyerheli

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After reading most of this thread I thought of some things to add, but then I got to rotoryrob's reply and have to admit that he pretty much said what I was going to.

I have been in the hobby since 1965, and the one, single axiom I have always subscribed to is getting equipment that will allow you to progress, and not trying to do it on the cheap.

I don't want to sound like an elitist, because I don't think that way at all, but I do strongly believe in getting good, quality equipment that will last. I wouldn't recommend anything less than a 7 ch radio (JR, Spektrum, or Futaba) and either the Phoenix or RF sims.

I also totally agree on at least a 500 sized heli, with my real preference on a 550/600 size. The simple truth is that the larger sized helis are more stable, easier to see, but do involve higher crash costs.

Your initial emphasis should be getting comfortable on the sim with the size heli you will be flying. Play around with sizes but practice mostly with your desired size.

I wish you all the luck and encouragement there is, and will again say that you have a real wealth of experience and information available here. Enjoy the addiction.

Logo 700, Specter 700, Goblin 700, Trex 700DFC, Gaui X7, Logo 690SX, Logo 600SX; Trex 470 Trex 500
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03-22-2015 06:56 AM  3 years agoPost 22
jessdigs

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autos
Keep in mind that 450s to not auto like bigger helis. A 600 or 700 will auto much better. 450s just don't have the mass to have enough energy stored in the rotor to auto well. My 700N with the edge blades autos extremely well.

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06-16-2015 08:32 PM  3 years agoPost 23
Gyronut

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Flying RC is not really a sport ya know, but welcome.

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09-06-2015 07:10 PM  3 years agoPost 24
Noble_Drow

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I agree with pretty much all that has been said. I started with a $100 micro cp rtf to learn orientation. Quickly out grew it, and budget bought my 450x and dx6i.
The most important thing I'm probably gonna say is EXPO! The 450x was an extreme beast for my skill lv out of the box. Factory radio settings were very poppy and twitchy. And any 450 crash will be $100 minimum repair. Which happened 3 times by the time I got the Expo figured out. Flew phoenix sim over the winter, and with 25% Expo on ele/airl have had much success. Since it has been crashed 1 more time due to mechanical failure, stripped plastic servo gears.
Now another important point to ring again. My dx6i, great TX, but if you look most of the larger helis need 7ch. So now as Im looking at building a 600L, I basically have to start all over again, I need a bigger TX for the bigger heli. So the old saying go big or stay home, well let that play true in selecting your TX. A lightly used dx7 will yeild it's worth in classifieds if you decide helis are not your thing.
Also, blade has some new helis with safe mode that would help out with learning if you want in the air now. The 230s has bail out. The thing with micro helis is the power to weight ratio. It takes a more skilled pilot to properly 3d a micro vs a 600 simply because micros have no hang time.

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11-27-2015 06:10 PM  3 years agoPost 25
flycatch

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I like yourself recently got back into helicopters and decided nitro was still for me. In the past I flew both .50 and .90 size airframes. In my opinion bigger is better but if you go electric your limited in size. I picked up two Thunder Tigers one on this site and another on Craigslist. One was used and the other was a RTF still in its' box. Total invested was $620 USD for both. One the Titan is flying and the other a SE is awaiting a bearing.

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11-27-2015 07:29 PM  3 years agoPost 26
rcflyerheli

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In my opinion bigger is better but if you go electric your limited in size.
Nothing against nitro at all, but I totally don't agree with this statement. Nitro is where you have limited size. With nitro, there are basically 3 sizes, .30, .50, and .90. The .50 and .90s are equivalent to a 600 and 700 electric size. Not sure about the .30, though.

With electrics, you have 100, 130, 180, 250, 330, 360, 400, 450, 500, 550, 570, 600, 670, 690, 700, 770, 800 as basic platforms to choose from. Electric power systems come in every size and power capacity you can think of.

IMHO, it is harder to go with an inexpensive nitro setup, much harder, than it is a less expensive electric size. Unless you go with competition level nitro engines, there will be issues keeping them running correctly. Not saying inexpensive electrics can't give you issues, but I have been with nitro modeling for a ton of years, and I think I have a pretty good idea of how nitro engines perform.

Which ever way you decide to go, good luck and if you have any problems or questions, I'm sure there will be someone that will have an answer.

Good luck and good flying.

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02-23-2016 05:47 PM  34 months agoPost 27
scalechoppers85

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I was there about 7 years ago, a bit of advice, buy you a simulator and a used DX6i, I myself like PHOENIX, REALFLIGHT, NEXT RC, PRACTICE HOVERING IN EACH ORIENTATION until you can keep it in one spot in each orientation, the go through the series of flight patterns available on the simulator, if your still interested in flting after that, which will take many months, then your dedicated enough to graduate into a 450 sized heli.........just fyi I bought a blade 450 for my first heli it was 400 bucks with the dx6i, I was impatient and didn't want to listen, everytime I went up I came down hard....I probably invested 5 grand in that little bird before I finally listened, but by all means get your 450 you want, look at it study it put the training balls on it spool it up safely go over all the instructions maybe even try to lift it off a little into a stable hover just until the it starts to get awat from you and slowly come down, itll scratch th FLYING itch but PLEASE focus on that simulator watch tutorials be safe have fun !!!!

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02-24-2016 09:42 PM  34 months agoPost 28
Heli_Splatter

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USA

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+1 on Simulator.

The sim will save you a lot of money and time. If buying used helis, don't buy anything you don't see flying. There is a lot of snake oil out there.

If you assemble, have an experienced pilot shake it out for you first.

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