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07-17-2014 05:46 PM  4 years agoPost 1
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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is was told this is not safe
my friend owns his property and looks like he is with in good reason
to me he is only hovering and has plenty of room

your thoughts please

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07-17-2014 05:48 PM  4 years agoPost 2
balsapro

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Well if you have to ask you already know the answer

Build the Best, Fly the Best, Crash the Best

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07-17-2014 05:55 PM  4 years agoPost 3
Rcdxer

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Just my opinion but I say "unsafe".

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07-17-2014 05:55 PM  4 years agoPost 4
mookie

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That's the wrong question, it does not look dangerous. In fact i would say he is in good control.
But if it all goes wrong then it makes no difference what it looked like before hand.
Up to you what you do.

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07-17-2014 05:56 PM  4 years agoPost 5
Ace Dude

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Flying just a few feet from cars and pedestrian traffic is not something I would consider safe.

  

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07-17-2014 05:57 PM  4 years agoPost 6
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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thank you

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07-28-2014 11:06 PM  4 years agoPost 7
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I find that to be very unsafe. although he seems to have good control of the machine. who is to say something doesnt all the sudden come apart ? also all of the sudden he could experience a radio issue? not to mention it could easily go out of control striking himself and/or an innocent bystander. last but not least. why would someone put any type of object on his or her tx antenna? I understand the tip of the antenna produces the weakest siganal when compared to the base of the tx. knowing that still doesn't make it safe either

shut up and fly

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07-28-2014 11:16 PM  4 years agoPost 8
HREFAB

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I find it more of a problem that he has the antenna vertically polarized which puts out the weakest (narrowest) signal. Pointing the transmitter at the model with the antenna in this configuration is like pointing a laser. The antennas fold over so that you have a broader signal which results in more secure connection with the receiver.

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07-28-2014 11:20 PM  4 years agoPost 9
f14tomcatfreak

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very good point!

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08-16-2014 04:55 PM  4 years agoPost 10
Keymaker

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Looks pretty safe, you're just hovering a few feets off the ground.
Now when i was learning to fly i started just like that, but then i got too confident and started climbing to about 100 feet doing flips and rolls, that my friend was dangerous. I was doing all that crazy flying on a freggin blade, in the middle of a city. Can you imagine if that thing had felt on top someones house. I still get chills thinking about it. You can easily burn someones house and not realize it, Lipos are dangerous. Now in days i don't even like being around when i see someone else flying that it ain't me. You never know what kind of crappy equipment they could be using, risking their lives and yours.

RC flying is pretty safe but people can make it also Extremely dangerous.

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08-16-2014 08:24 PM  4 years agoPost 11
HREFAB

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I have a very limited space to test (10'x20' ) with a shop on one side, a service building in front, a fence to the left and an iron gate behind me. Not usually a problem until I took my 550E for a test. Wind gust, overcorrection, immovable fence... You all know the rest. Learned a good lesson... ALWAYS leave yourself an out! The Iron Gates are open now whenever I test.

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08-16-2014 08:35 PM  4 years agoPost 12
WBFAir

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Any time you fly one of these things, even some micros, in a place where you have no control over the proximity to property this not yours, but above all a place where you do not have control over the conditions that unknowing persons can come around...

....that is not safe.

Yeah sure nothing went wrong this time, but all that had to happen was to have something go wrong and have some little kid walking by just outside that gate, and they would have been hit.

As we all know by now, these things can seriously hurt and even kill, an that can happen to any one no matter how good you are.

So any time you fly one in a place where you don't have the control over things such as the environment that was flown in, yeah, you are being unsafe.

Last week I went out to a local school to test some new blades on my 450, (schools are closed btw just to re-mind). Place is not my usual place as it does have its times of use. But place is close an I just wanted to do a few test flights to see how things would work with the new high end blades that just showed up. I also did this about mid afternoon so not many would be home from work, and as well, there is construction going on at the school this summer (although not right then) so it was 100% closed to even summer use.

Place has a huge field behind the school that is already deep in from the roads with plenty of space to fly a 450 an then some. Field naturally is among a residential neighborhood of course, but aside from this much space is all well insulated by very tall trees of plenty of depth too I probably could never get to them.

So I got there and there was not a sole in site, nor a car in the parking lot.

So I walked out to the about the middle of the field, got my stuff out, an checked for anyone one last time before lifting off an got the 450 in the air.

Well sure enough an despite all my cautions, with about 2 min into the pack, I herd from behind some jerk calling like crazy for his dog.

Naturally just after I took off some jerk with two big yellow labs (both off the leash) came around the corner an once one herd/saw the helo, it bolted across the field after it.

Once I herd the yelling I took a quick turn around to see what it was, an in seeing what was going on I made to landing the helo all with just enough time for the dog to come up on it and get a nice little smack in the nose by the slowing down blades all before I could stop him.

After that an seeing it wasn't something living the dog kinda lost interest and finally went back to the person calling.

So what did this person do after that, just basically kept going to walk his dogs (still off the leash) and preceded to take the next hour to meander around the outskirts of the field an as he did so he would occasionally look over at me (as best as I could tell as he was pretty far away), to which I just stood there an waited. Just to mention too I as I watched I could see he had no control over these dogs as he must have called them like 100 times for this an that, an for the most part, they paid zero attention to him.

Finally he kinda got all the way around back to me and I just stood their looking at him an he finally seemed to get it and then yelled over to me, oh...were you waiting for me...oh, I'm sorry I didn't know. No really you could have flown, there was no way he (the dog) would have chased it (the helo) from way over the other side, really normally he is very controlled. Really I don't know why he is so nuts today. I even know so as I belong to this R/C air plane club (one a town over I quit a few years ago due to all the plank terds) an I fly planes there an I bring them there all the time.

Anyway, I knew enough to get into as little as possible with this guy as ultimately would have done me no good. He was obviously just a complete idiot, so trying to talk to him about it would not have even registered, an am sure the cops an courts would have taken his side had I done anything to him.

So for logics sake, I said as little as possible an just nodded a few responses an waited till he was completely gone.

After that I flew a few more packs as luckily no one else came, an then went home. But just to say, just as I was leaving I saw a woman with a car load of dogs coming into the parking lot. (Was after all that time now after work hours).

So was I unsafe to have even flown at all, probably could say so as even though I did all I did, a issue did happen as was beyond my control.

All in all I know it's hard for many who do not have access to the resources that are 100% right for flying these helos to have to deal with that. You feel like why shouldn't you have the right to do what you feels is fun as everyone else seems to be allowed to.

But the simple fact is for probably 90% of John Q Public, they are just stupid to these things (as well just plain stupid overall) and as such an even in the best of situations, we have to anticipate the worse they can do, an just do all we can to avoid that.

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08-28-2014 02:22 PM  4 years agoPost 13
dela

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Quoting WBFAir:

"But the simple fact is for probably 90% of John Q Public, they are just stupid to these things (as well just plain stupid overall) "

So I can say (according to your statistics) with a 90% confidence level that you (WBFAir) are STU..D. Hmmm.

But wait! I can also say with a 90% confidence level that I am STUPID. Oh well .... that pretty much ruins my day. :O(

Getting back on topic, and my opinion on the video: Pilot and camera were far enough away from the heli so that they were in no more danger than they would be in an open field. Street is way too close, placing pedestrians at a level of danger too high for me. I wouldn't do it.

John Q Public is mostly IGNORANT (not stupid) regarding the danger implicit in our heli's, and we shouldn't impose the level of danger, that we routinely and knowingly accept, on them.

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08-28-2014 11:46 PM  4 years agoPost 14
WBFAir

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I don't know, I think I will stand by the term stupid.

Just for the sake of this information, I just thought I might shed a little light on the term Stupid an its origins.

Back in the day when the mental health profession was just becoming more scientific, a group of doctors got together and wanted to try to categorize the levels at which someone was afflicted. Back then little was known specifically what caused most of the issues so they couldn't use those specifically named things like we do today.

So these doctors came up with a standardized test to evaluate someone's level of affliction, and from that used names like, dumb, stupid, idiot, moron an things like that in basically a 1 being the least, to 10 being the worse type fashion to classify a particular persons level. This test an its results became quite common so became well known an common knowledge for its time.

All in all these words had been around before that, but this is where people were really categorized an by a level of 1-10 for how bad.

Eventually as more became known this gauging system was abandoned, but the idea of using these terms and in this way stuck around an became a part of common used language in a slang form for the use of insulting someone who was not technically really afflicted an in much the same gauging way to be used from little to worse depending on how bad you wanted to insult someone.

In modern day it's not really used as much in the gauging of 1-10, as all are bad, but at any rate, that is kinda why we used these terms today.

For my part I still think of this older use though an use the term Stupid mostly to describe those that actually are not ignorant at all as they quite well do know things, or at least should know as these things are they are quite well known to the masses or just simply self evident. But even while knowing these individual things, these people cannot connect the dots so to speak to come to the right conclusions on what are the right choices to make or what to do.

For instance, a person who gets drunk an drives their car home at a high rate of speed an kills someone, they know all the information of all these things they are doing are wrong, but yet still do it. Or when someone buys a home without checking out 100% if they can afford it, an then defaults on their mortgage as they can't, that again is stupid, or when a person spends their lives learning nothing and doing drugs or partying all their life or committing crimes, an then wonders why they can't get a job...stupid. Or someone who votes for a politician knowing full well they have none of the proper qualifications or experience they should have, or if they even do, historically make the wrong choices. But regardless these people sit around an wonder why the country and/or their lives in particular are still in a horrible shape, or worse defends that choice or person to try to deny they are stupid.

These are all examples of stupid.

Now as far as our helo's, I don't know about you guys, but I never ever have had one single none R/C person an especially one that saw one for the first time that did not come out with about the same statement which was, that thing looks really hard to fly. For sure none have ever thought it was easy. As well the other most common conclusion was that it looked expensive. An as far as getting it that if it hit them they could be seriously hurt...or if it crashed it would be a lot of work an expensive to fix, that just goes without saying.

Majorly an by a very large percent I would wager, they all get these things an do not need to be told this information.

So ignorant is not in question here, but I will admit, that for some reason even though they know all these things, if they see one flying they still will walk right up to one or close to it, or a person flying one an do all kinds of things such as let their dog jump on them or run amuck around it despite even knowing its the law to keep it on a leash, and or just do something else completely wrong that puts themselves an or the person flying it in danger of either hitting them, or just crashing the helo.

So as far as I am concerned, I am sticking with stupid.

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08-29-2014 04:00 AM  4 years agoPost 15
HREFAB

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I didn't understand a single word of that...

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08-29-2014 05:31 PM  4 years agoPost 16
dela

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I'll continue this just for fun.

If you are saying that 90 percent of the population of the world sometimes make stupid decisions or behave stupidly, then your statistic is way too low. It is closer to 99.999999999%. With that statistic, I'm excluding only one historical person.

Appendix:

Total number of humans ever to live on earth - approx. 100 billion

Total number of humans who exhibited no stupid behavior - 1

Probability that any given human is stupid:

(100 billion - 1)/ (100 billion) * 100 = 99.999999999%

PS - that historical person is not you and is not me.

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08-29-2014 05:46 PM  4 years agoPost 17
HREFAB

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Total number of humans who exhibited no stupid behavior - 1
I might have to disagree with that. He trusted Judas.

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08-29-2014 05:48 PM  4 years agoPost 18
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regardless U can't fix stupid

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08-29-2014 09:19 PM  4 years agoPost 19
dela

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regardless U can't fix stupid
True. It seems to be an incurable disease. But we can try to minimize the overt symptoms in ourselves.
I might have to disagree with that. He trusted Judas.
John 13:27

It was all part of the plan ... the most amazing rescue plan in the history of the world

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02-12-2015 03:15 AM  3 years agoPost 20
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There is a lot of potential for things to go wrong. If everything continues to function properly, it would most likely be fine, but why risk it?

Hobby: Meet wallet!

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