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07-04-2014 08:53 PM  6 years ago
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patrickegan

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RCAPA Issues Statement about the "Special" Rule For Model Aircraft
http://www.suasnews.com/2014/07/299...model-aircraft/
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07-07-2014 02:04 AM  6 years ago
M. Fortin

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Very nice Patrick.

We are working on something as well in order to really shine a light on this topic this week.
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07-07-2014 02:42 AM  6 years ago
patrickegan

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Good, everyone should be speaking up.
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07-07-2014 07:53 PM  6 years ago
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I suggest in the advent of these new notices that are in line with the same regulations in all the other countries like Aus it is possibly a sign that UAS certification is coming soon to USA.rvv.com.au
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07-07-2014 08:03 PM  6 years ago
M. Fortin

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While it would be nice for the FAA to adopt something like the UK has in place I assure you they will not.

The FAA is no closer today than they were a year ago to figuring out where we need to be in terms of policy and regulation of these sUAS systems.

The FAA at this point is threatening everyone they can because they themselves feel that the technology is slipping away and that nobody is listening to them.

Their thought is now...well let's threaten everyone and then they will think twice.

Fact is, people are not thinking twice and they are simply moving on and leaving the FAA in the dust in hopes that the FAA will one day wake up and realize what is actually going on instead of trying to use scare tactics, lies and misinformation to get over on the American people.
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07-08-2014 05:48 AM  6 years ago
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You will have UAS certification for commercial work as sure as day turns to night.
Said that about ten years ago here and gave all the reasons why and nothing has changed since.
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If you where not getting a UAS certification program then they would not have issued these notices about commercial work or FPV, so something is happening.

FAA are looking at all over countries that have certifcation for the best working regulations to use themselves and these are part of the regs others have.

I understand that without any certifications and allowance of aerial work the only option you have is to talk about regulations you dont want to have.
And its pretty easy to get most to agree with that because no-one has certification to work so no doubt they oppose regulations that in their view only makes it even harder..

But after certifications start as soon as people become certified they all experience a different view and quickly see that any regulations that dont impede their business serve them to make it harder for competitors as well as ensure less chance of another operator having a bad incident that ends in more regulations for all that could impact on their business.

In short, they will be arguing against protestations about the regulations.
Note the positions of the Aus certified UAS owners organisation, which in short is that more regulation is good.
In addition to that if certified operators suspect anyone is operating for hire without certification they will call FAA to report it.

There is nearly a 100 of them certified here in Aus and you can bank on them calling CASA if they find someone operating not certified for work.
They have a right to, a busker or hot dog stand owner who pays for the permits to work on a street would do the same if someone showed up that hadnt paid their permits.
That's business, and if you have certification and your competitor does not then they have an unfair advantage with lower costs and no certification and by way of breaking the law and any business would be remiss not to report that.

It'll be a new ball game.
And if it happens sooner then later and certifications can be obtained from FAA to do work you might get caught on the back foot if not prepared for that eventuality.

Might be time to move on to the topic of what you are all going to do with your certifications.

If you want to find out what markets there are for Drones then just look at the industries the certified operators are developing in those countries that have it.
Go to the CASA site and see the list if certified operators
Google each one and you will find their web sites that shows what services they offer.

I suggest forget the pizza delivery ideas and Drone uses such as that, there are so many reasons why its not going to happen.
And anything that involves flying around people or their homes.

Do you know at least one person in your street who would if you flew a Drone over his kids playing outside the house, call every authority from the local County and Police to the local Congressman to demand they put a stop to it, and or depending on the state, open fire on it.

If it comes to a competition between Drone operators and suburban residents that dont like them you can see who is going to loose that argument in the end.
If you based a business around it you might find that becomes non viable due to regulations not allowing it.

If you think that complaining about the fact some regs make a business you had planned not viable then just face the fact is not viable, are the others in countries with certifications doing it, find out first.

Everyone has contacted and lobbied just about anyone they can think of in the last 10 years here and ever since the FAA grounded commercail work officially and before.
It hasnt amounted to a hill of beans.

Regulators world wide are doing what they are doing to a fairly constant formula of regs regardless.
They dont see stake holders because there is no certification and thus no industry.
Once you have certifications then you start operating commercially then they will see you as industry stake holders but not till then.
rvv.com.au
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07-08-2014 03:30 PM  6 years ago
patrickegan

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Good pragmatic view MPA.
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07-11-2014 03:26 PM  6 years ago
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Like most other things people will just do what they do and ignore everything else. I'd be willing to bet many thousands of people who fly quads and alike never even visit a forum or pay any attention to whats going on at all. They will likely never even know or pay attention to what the the FAA is doing or not doing.

How many members alone are in the AMA? 170 something thousand? 523 thousand on RCG? Hell, look at the public comments on the FAA site. What, 2 or 3 thousand responses total?

Bottom line? Generally people don't care and even if they did, the FAA will do what it wants, end of story.

You have to cut the cancer out at it's roots. Half the American people seem to want bigger, more intrusive government and more regulations. We'll that's what we have now. Happy?
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07-11-2014 03:32 PM  6 years ago
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I would concur with that statement. We are getting penalized for government mismanagement and laziness.
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