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06-29-2014 04:39 PM  6 years ago
AA simon

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may be a stupid question, but what sort of a throttle curve do i program?

i presume 0 at mid stick and 100 at top and bottom?
Simon Ribeiro
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06-29-2014 04:46 PM  6 years ago
Gator1

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Close 125 top and bottom. The manual covers transmitter setup as well.
The way I look at it, this is so new there is no stupid question just the one not asked...
T.O.R.C.H.S. Orlando Member And T.R.A.C.S. Tampa Member
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07-14-2014 12:00 AM  6 years ago
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finally did my maiden flight today!

all went well stil playing with settings,

the rudder/yaw action seems very slow. i have chanel 4 up to 140 end points is there any more i can do or do i have to get use to it ?

when i land i keep droping the left stick expecting the blades to stop !
Simon Ribeiro
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07-21-2014 12:49 AM  6 years ago
TMoore

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The build is straight forward but you need to pay attention to the orientation of the holes in the top plate so that everything works out correctly when you put the BEC and all of the ESC's in place. Pay particular attention to the wiring of the ESC's to the Mini Wii. I got mine right the first time but I was careful to trace the ESC leads to the Mini Wii. Make sure the motor direction and the prop directions are correct. As far as the throttle curves are concerned, with 3S 45C packs I ran my throttle EPA to 150% both directions and programmed a straight line curve from top to bottom in FM1.

On the Airtronics Aquila 6 radio that I used I didn't bother to try to use an AUX channel as that really isn't necessary if you have flight mode control of the gyro gains. Just plug the output from the Mini Wii into your Gyro channel and use the Separate flight mode gyro gain to control the arming of the ESC's. Essentially the gyro gain channel is an AUX Channel anyway so I just used that function to arm the ESC's. I set the EPA's to +/-150% in FM1 and when the throttle stick moves to Half the ESC's arm. In FM Normal and FM Throttle hold set the gyro gains to ZERO each way and the ESC's can't arm.

The rudder channel is also wide open as this seems to be the best for my skills and I've set the cyclic response to +/-140 each way which still leaves another 10% if I need it.

When you flip it (thanks Kevin) hammer the throttle on the backside. The first time you see the props reverse it's a real kick to see what the machine is doing and there is a little bit of a lag to deal with. Other than that take your time and get used to how it tracks with rudder both forward and backward, upright and inverted.

It's best to use strong packs. I'm ordering 65C packs tomorrow. I run the Hobby People 3S 2200 packs which are rated by HP at 20C but are more like 45C packs the way that some of the other packs are rated. They have some 65C packs and that is the way to go IMHO. You'll know if your packs aren't up to the task, the machine won't have any pep when you nail it and the response will be down over what a good strong pack will provide.
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07-30-2014 01:17 AM  6 years ago
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got to add my two cents in. Great quad to just blow off some steam, takes a lot of abuse cause I'm going through my second set of arms and props. I'm just having a field day with it, affordable crash and easy maintenance /parts replacement. As for parts, suggest ordering two sets of legs, arms and props. Those are the ones that usually need replacing. Crash wise, I rather crash the Invertix any time vs. the heli's or multicopters. Very though and just so simple. Replace broken parts and your back flying in a matter of minutes vs. hours. I do highly recommend it. Tech and supply support are really great.Heads up, it's my turn to crash & burn , NOT EVEN
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08-05-2014 03:46 PM  6 years ago
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would it be fair to say that the Invertix performs as well as the Stingray?
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08-06-2014 12:04 AM  6 years ago
TMoore

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I couldn't say, I've never flown a StingRay.Part 107.
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08-17-2014 03:48 AM  6 years ago
T.J.

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Stingray VS Invertix

They are both great but they do fly different the stingray flys more like a collective pitch heli when doing tic tocs. Its alot smoother in the transitions. But really to make the stingray do great tic tocs it needs 6s to get the extra torque need. Now I got the Invertix and started off with the 4s firmware up grade which is the main reason I bought it. My 4s 2200mah packs work in both. Due to the higher voltage the motors can stop and reverse faster with more power. Which makes rainbows and such alot more due able. Oh on the stingray and the invertix I am getting 3 min of hard fun flying and the packs coming down with a little over 20% in them.

If you are an Ivertix owner I would highly think about getting the firmware in the ESC updated so that they can do 4s packs it makes the little thing into a beast!!!
Thanks, T.J.
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08-17-2014 10:10 AM  6 years ago
AA simon

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hi

could you poleasse tell me more about this upgrade, where do i get it and how do i install i, sounds great.

one thing i really dont like about the invertix is the lag between forward and reverse, it sounds like this might help.
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08-17-2014 05:11 PM  6 years ago
T.J.

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How you get it I am not sure you will have to check the tech support over at Encore RC. At IRCHA Boby and the guys were doing the firmware update to the ESC's.

I was not really impressed by the invertix on a 3s as there was just to much lag in the motors changing directions. But after seeing it fly on 4S at IRCHA I bought one at IRCHa and had them do the upgrade. 4s is awesome!!!
Thanks, T.J.
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08-17-2014 05:41 PM  6 years ago
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could you poleasse tell me more about this upgrade, where do i get it and how do i install i, sounds great.
Try contacting them here:

http://www.encorerc.com/pages/Contact-Us.html
  
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08-22-2014 03:04 PM  6 years ago
TMoore

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The Firmware is on the Outlaw-power website. The cards are supposed to be available sometime today to do the update.

Cards are now available for sale.
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08-24-2014 04:54 PM  6 years ago
AA simon

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any chance you could post a link,

i carnt even find the site

thanks
Simon Ribeiro
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08-24-2014 05:23 PM  6 years ago
Ace Dude

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08-24-2014 05:30 PM  6 years ago
TMoore

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Thanks Ace Dude.

Bobby said the new firmware is an improvement even if you are running 3S.
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08-24-2014 05:43 PM  6 years ago
Ace Dude

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No problem TMoore.  
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08-24-2014 08:08 PM  6 years ago
AA simon

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thanks,

i may have to wait until it is available in europe
Simon Ribeiro
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08-25-2014 10:48 PM  6 years ago
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Assembly on this quad is a cake walk. I have built probably 70-80 quads in total and rarely use the manual. But when I cracked it open, I noted the amount of detail that they put into it. With that said, I followed the manual and no matter what your level of experience with Multirotors, Heli, Plane, or RC in general follow the manual. They obviously took time and made it worthwhile. The quad flies well both upright and inverted. Note: If you are used to flying only auto-level mode flight controllers, you will feel like the stability is a little finicky. There is nothing wrong with the system. You will just have to get into the mindset of a non-autolevel FC. It's nothing that you cannot handle without a little practice. The kit includes some extra hardware and props to keep you flying which is always a nice touch. Overall, very well done. Could I build a quad that goes inverted cheaper? Yes. Would it be kitted out as well as this one? It would take a bit for you to get the parts together. Is it worth the $$$? Oddly enough, and some may argue, but yes. It is worth the money. If you do not know the Multiwii hardware and software back to front, you're going to beat your head on the desk getting a home built/config'd multirotor to fly inverted. Save yourself the trouble and pick one of these up. I am sure the tech will just get better and better for the Invertix (and others), but this was a satisfying purchase for me and I am really picky.
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08-28-2014 04:08 AM  6 years ago
TMoore

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The USB card arrived and I flashed the ESC's. That was fairly painless. The LED's really make this thing look good. I installed the blue and white LED's. These things are really bright.Part 107.
The only ZERO flight hour certificate in the world.
It's like getting a driver's license without the driver's test.
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08-28-2014 09:09 PM  6 years ago
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The USB card arrived and I flashed the ESC's. That was fairly painless. The LED's really make this thing look good. I installed the blue and white LED's. These things are really bright.

this post is useless without pics
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