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Home✈️Aircraft🚁HelicopterAlignT-REX 700N › align strikes again! RANT!!
06-30-2014 05:21 PM  6 years ago
automagp68

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The Tank they just sent Brand new in the package
Part number AGNHN7045

My original tank from the original 6 year old LE kit

The 600N bung that everyone was trying to tell me i was nuts for "expecting it to be the same" when in fact it is the same

The bung with the the new 700n tank WRONG PART the groove is not thick enough for the tank

The 600N bung same part same narrow groove cut it

Here is a shot of the 700N stopper plug, the blank one that just fills the spare hole
as you can see this is the correct thickness
Notice the difference in the width of the groove cut to accept the tank

So now I'm totally screwed, even ordering a brand new tank with what is suppose to be the correct parts directly from align i still don't have the correct bung and I've wasted nearly a month building and shipping things back and forth. So they two guys that were telling me i was nuts and it was my fault and i ordered the wrong stuff and i should of known better because the tank was changed 5 years ago can take a hike. The parts were screwed up by align, i didn't order the wrong thing and the 600n and 700n bungs are the same! Thanks though
And again! FU ALIGN
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07-01-2014 02:38 AM  6 years ago
gftazz

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I'll stick my nose in here.
Maybe the bung with the wide groove IS for the outside hole of the tank that goes outside of the frames that you show in the picture and the smaller grooved fuel pickup bung is for the possiably narrower tank thickness opening in the middle of the tank that goes between the frames behind the engine. That was the original way these were plumbed I believe till we put the bung outside the frames to make for easier tank removal without pulling the pickup bung out of the tank to get it out of the frames whenm you have to slide it out. I don't see that middle of the tank hole on your tank as you have only shown the outside hole??
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07-01-2014 03:15 AM  6 years ago
knightofcarnage

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You should have gone with the DFC tank version. It fits all modles and only 1 hole. No chance of leaking.

http://shop.align.com.tw/product_in...roducts_id=4579
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07-01-2014 03:29 AM  6 years ago
automagp68

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You should have gone with the DFC tank version. It fits all modles and only 1 hole. No chance of leaking.
Do you even own one of these or do you just enjoy coming on here with useless information?

Your last post on this thread of
lol here this would have help you. Also you mention the tank is thiner. That change in color was mad 5 years ago, LOL. Here go to this link
Was about as useless as this one. Do us all a favor. Please don't post if you have NO idea what your talking about.

First of all, the DFC is a much larger tank because that kit is built around the os105 engine. Bigger tank, different frame, totally different CG. You know how i know? Because i own one. I would love to see how the CG goes with the DFC tank on an 700LE.

Second of all, your last post breaking my balls about "that change in color was made 5 years ago" actually no your wrong again. The tank was never changed, that stupid bung that does not look like it fits is actually the one your suppose to use according to the align reps i spoke with today. There was no change in the tank thickness like i originally thought that you decided to try and make a joke about last time.

Your posts are anything but helpful and meant to do nothing but make yourself appear like you know what your talking about when intact you don't. So please stop posting stupid links like the align parts finder that you posted with the intention of being a smart ass. Its not appreciated. Go find your entertainment elsewhere and keep your "lol",s to yourself. No one thinks your funny
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07-01-2014 04:02 AM  6 years ago
rpat

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Well I have to agree with you on the Align parts. You need a computer to find out what part you need.........OK I thought that was funny, and I am out of popcorn.
I have had trouble tracking down parts as well because they have came out with so many models of the same heli it is hard to keep up with what they do.
trex 700fbl cal30,minititan,, trx600fbl,trex250,logo 500,Velocity N2
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07-01-2014 02:50 PM  6 years ago
knightofcarnage

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Do you even own one of these or do you just enjoy coming on here with useless information?

Was about as useless as this one. Do us all a favor. Please don't post if you have NO idea what your talking about.
LOL
Not only i personally owned 700N -> 700LE 3G -> 700N DFC (still have 700N DFC with YS120), but i build at least 20 of them. Not only does the DFC tank fit and work fine ( i will triple check this today, i have access to both), but the extra fuel is a plus. And the huge advantage is ZERO LEAKS. Like i said Align made the high visibility tanks really early on. They also change the tanks on 600N because the original ones where too thin, That was many moons ago. Btw just because you are frustrated does not mean you need to be ignorant towards others.
CG goes with the DFC tank on an 700LE.
Its like having a header tank, CGY on a nitro changes all the time depend how much fuel is felt in the tank.

my Align heli over the years

trex 100
trex 150
trex 250 x 2 -> 250se -> 250 dfc
trex 450 se -> 450 se v2 -> 450 pro + 450 sport -> 450 dfc -> 450L dom
trex 600N (original green) -> 600N (blue) -> 600N LE
trex 700N (original) -> 700N LE 3g -> 700N DFC ( with a bladder system)
trex 700E DFC Pro
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07-02-2014 02:24 AM  6 years ago
gftazz

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Wow what an aragant little Heliman you are.
Yes I happen to own way more helis than you ever will and what you have listed doesn't even begin to compare to what I have now let alone what I have had over past years. What's this yours is bigger than mine is that your peeing match contest here to impress me or anyone else on here and to make you feel like a big shot. You ask on here for help and all you do is bash people. I've been flying helis since the 80's probably before you were born I'll bet. OOH mine is bigger than yours.
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07-02-2014 04:43 AM  6 years ago
kthane

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Hmmm, would explain why it's PIA to get in there without pushing grommet into the tank. Have custom coat hanger for fishing grommet back out. The grommet you have will seal just fine. I'm using a 91HZ-R speed 3D and i have no leaks or pissing fuel when tank is pressurized. Tank grommet for the 600 and 700 has always been the same. Not sure about the elev. bellcrank. Other than them adding an inside mounting hole, I got no clue. 700e a-arm is shorter.

P.S. Align does not make it easy to find the right parts.
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07-02-2014 05:14 AM  6 years ago
knightofcarnage

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Wow what an aragant little Heliman you are.
Yes I happen to own way more helis than you ever will and what you have listed doesn't even begin to compare to what I have now let alone what I have had over past years. What's this yours is bigger than mine is that your peeing match contest here to impress me or anyone else on here and to make you feel like a big shot. You ask on here for help and all you do is bash people. I've been flying helis since the 80's probably before you were born I'll bet. OOH mine is bigger than yours.
I guess LOL is being arrogant. I only listed out what was my progression in Align kits over the years, you are reading it into to much. I only have 4 heli. Also over many years i have build/repaired numerous heli kits for a local hobby shop. That is how i was able to always get the newest and keep upgrading.

Here what i was trying to say.

Align in the passed use to do silent upgrades to there kits, they still do sometimes. Good example was with trex 150. First batch the tail hubs had really thin plastic. They change the material and just put them in the kits. no part change nothing.

Both 600N and 700N tanks where changed with the same part numbers.
Original tanks where more milky (similar color to airplane tanks) and thinner . After few complaints about the tanks bulging. Align made the tanks more clear and slight ticker. Now I think you got old new stock on your replacement parts. Here is another good example. Original 700N 3G LE.
Came with FB main shafts (i had this issue). Later this was fixed and another change was bell cranks with the 2 holes (from 700E). Some kits had them some did not
700e a-arm is shorter.
Yes you are correct its short, but if you want to use the inner holes on the bell cranks for more resolution. Then you can make a hybrid a-arm.You will need the original top portion 700N LE combined with the 700E part (just the part with the 2 holes). I don't know if you can just use the a-arm from 700N DFC.

2 more notes
1) I always recommend the aling part finder, because for the most parts they did a great job on which parts can be use for backward compatibility.
2) Was not trying to a smart ass about the DFC tank. It was from years of battling a tank leaking problem with the original tank. I always had my tank leak when i used the outside hole for intake, but no issues with inner hole. One the reason i started to use a bladder system was because of the stupid leaks.

Sorry typos i'm on my stupid iphone.
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07-02-2014 06:39 AM  6 years ago
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Standard forum pissing match I can see here. Nothing new... Carry on with your entertainment and popcorn

What's funny is, not one person had a solution
I'm done with this thread, was stupid of me to start it assuming I might get some support from you all
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07-02-2014 07:44 AM  6 years ago
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soln=If your mission is to get it flying, be a modeler and do it! Make the fricken parts work for Gods sake.......

This arf mind of thought is making our forefathers cringe in their respective places....
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07-02-2014 11:17 AM  6 years ago
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He doesn't want to fix it he wants to argue about it, I think.
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07-02-2014 01:35 PM  6 years ago
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Don't you just hate it when you munch down on an unpoped kernel?trex 700fbl cal30,minititan,, trx600fbl,trex250,logo 500,Velocity N2
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07-02-2014 01:54 PM  6 years ago
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Crunch!
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07-02-2014 03:44 PM  6 years ago
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Just about anyone who flies Align has realized that their parts catalog and numbering system is the most difficult to use of any in the industry. My 700N is a V1 conversion from FB to FBL. I have been very careful in replacing parts that when I find a part that works I update the instruction booklet picture with the part numbers used. Recently I had to replace the tail blade holders and found them to be for a 5mm shaft. These parts were just not available and thus I had to upgrade to a whole new 6mm shaft tail rotor hub ($27 instead of $5.95). That sort of thing is going to be pretty typical. Yes the 6mm is stronger, but it was not necessary for me.

Other people will say, well you want them to improve the products and still support the legacy stuff at the same time. At a certain point that just cannot be accomplished by any manufacturer. Upgrade or die. We have been doing that with computer software for over 20 years.

It is...what it is, I guess.

Nice thing about a forum like this is you can ask for help and you usually get the right answer from the community.
"Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground." J. Taylor
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07-02-2014 03:45 PM  6 years ago
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Is this a good time to ask if anyone's selling a 700n?
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07-02-2014 05:43 PM  6 years ago
knightofcarnage

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Just about anyone who flies Align has realized that their parts catalog and numbering system is the most difficult to use of any in the industry
I agree with you, that is why part find is great but I did not realize the forgot all about the 700N model variants. They list everything for 600N variants but only list 700N DFC parts. why is that missing?
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07-03-2014 02:16 AM  6 years ago
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KnightOfCarnage My Appologies to You.
I was responding to him not liking our answers to trying to help him out. Guess I got his posting confused with your posts somehow. My apologies to you sir.
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07-03-2014 02:53 AM  6 years ago
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Np buddy. Thanks =)
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07-03-2014 08:40 PM  6 years ago
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Automagp68,

I know you are frustrated and I'm sure someone here can solve your dilema, but it seems that you are quick to bite. Yes, there were some smart ass comments, but there were also some valid suggestions based on the information you gave. Both times you snapped back at them. I didn't sense any condesention in some of those suggestions, but it's hard to help when you are so combative. Just relax and let us help you get the problem fixed.

Practially, my whole fleet is Align and I think I may have the part you need. But, in your case, if you haven't done so already, you should probably call directly and place your order with this issue in mind or try and different supplier. Ronlund.com is a great place to start as he is VERY helpful and friendly, and he has comprehensive knowledge regarding Align parts. He seems keen on providing very personal service! Call and speak with him directly, I'm positive that he'll get you squared away.

I do remember that Align did change the tank a few years back but that was simply cosmetic; fuel level visability was enhanced, but the tank wall thinkness was not changed. I haven't had any issues getting correct parts, but I understand your pain as I know Align has a million versions of the same machine. I just ask you to give the guys at RR a chance to help you without getting crucified. Sorry for your frustration but it happens to the best of us. Good luck
Mellisa
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