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06-29-2014 06:34 PM  3 years agoPost 81
unclejane

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Then you of all people should recogonize history's lessons
The most important of which are:
- that it is typically written by the victors.
- studying only that history doesn't give you the full story.

Something TLE and his fellow evangelists, racists and so on in here have no understanding of.

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06-29-2014 06:55 PM  3 years agoPost 82
Dennis (RIP)

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I do and i have Thomas,religion can be a curse!Northern Ireland is still a boiling pot!
Northern Ireland is a regional problem.

Not an international problem.

Radical Islam/Muslim is an international problem.

Big, big difference.

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06-29-2014 07:16 PM  3 years agoPost 83
unclejane

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Northern Ireland is a regional problem.
Not an international problem.
Radical Islam/Muslim is an international problem.
Big, big difference.
Wrong. There's no difference. A radical Muslim is no different from a radical Christian or Catholic. All are equally dangerous and are equally capable of convincing idiots to follow them.

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06-29-2014 07:59 PM  3 years agoPost 84
Dennis (RIP)

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Wrong. There's no difference. A radical Muslim is no different from a radical Christian or Catholic. All are equally dangerous and are equally capable of convincing idiots to follow them.
Well, obviously you are to dense to understand the difference between a "Regional Problem" and an "International Problem"

I never said one was either worse or better than the other.

Idiot.

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06-30-2014 04:26 AM  3 years agoPost 85
Thomas L Erb

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So shaw do you really think religion is the reason for the conflict or just an excuse?

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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06-30-2014 09:00 AM  3 years agoPost 86
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Manipulation using religion,but in this case the mindset is 300 years behind the western religions which left these extremes in history,hopefully.Some are calling for discrimination against all muslims,peaceful or otherwise.

Team- unbiased opinion.K.I.S.S principle upheld here

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06-30-2014 09:36 AM  3 years agoPost 87
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Mean while in the UK....

'Infidels must wear red collars and shave heads': 'Nazi' vision of Muslim Britain from Imam who ran 'Isis' barbecue in Cardiff park
Hahahaha. Looks like he has lots of supporters.

There has never been a Muslim Britain, and that is not what ISIS is fighting for. Several hundred British citizens have travelled to the middle east to fight for ISIS or some other jihadi group over there.

It has been western foreign policy to keep the middle east divided into smaller countries, ever since the British and French divided the former Ottoman Empire up at the end of WW1.

And while they have their differences in ideology and method, it is the policy of ISIS, Al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood and various other organisations, to join all the countries back up again. Some fight for a Caliphate, others peacefully call for ''closer Arab unity,'' and even the Shia Ayatollah of Iran has called for an ''Islamic power block'' to oppose the west, but they are all variations of the same thing.

Don't let media reports of tiny minorities of radicals in Western countries make you take your eye off the ball.

While Christianity has been separating state and religion ever since the reformation, that has never happened with Islam. An Islamic state or Caliphate as defined by Islam, is very much a part of the religion. The separation that they underwent was forced on them by the British and French, and that is the perceived wrong that they are attempting to right.

Imagine how powerful the middle east might be today had the Ottoman Empire not been broken up into countries by Britain and France with a brutal dictator placed in each one, with Sunni minorities ruling Shia majorities and vice versa. The middle east may be a sectarian hell-hole today, but the Ottoman Empire was much more peaceful than Christian Europe for centuries before Britain and France broke it up.

It is their dream to put it back together again, to combine Saudi Arabia's oil wealth with Pakistan's nuclear weapons so that they can't be pushed around and humiliated by the west and Israel. That is what they are fighting for.

Furthermore, in contrast to the tiny numbers of radical supporters that support extremist preachers etc in countries such as the UK, an average of 71% of the Muslim populations in Egypt, Morocco, Pakistan and Nigeria supported this goal in 2007 according to a poll.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/p...fricara/346.php

It would be interesting to see what the numbers are today and I suspect they might be even higher, but even if they are lower the chances are this goal is probably still supported by a majority.

When in Rome....

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06-30-2014 10:05 AM  3 years agoPost 88
Dennis (RIP)

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And while they have their differences in ideology and method, it is the policy of ISIS, Al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood and various other organisations, to join all the countries back up again. Some fight for a Caliphate, others peacefully call for ''closer Arab unity,'' and even the Shia Ayatollah of Iran has called for an ''Islamic power block'' to oppose the west, but they are all variations of the same thing.

Don't let media reports of tiny minorities of radicals in Western countries make you take your eye off the ball.
And, they will continue to kill themselves off faster than anyone else can do. These are tribal cultures that have been warring against themselves for hundreds of years and they will continue for hundreds of years into the future.

Even if what dusty claims comes to pass and all Muslim countries join all together, they will continue to war against themselves and the few will benefit while the rest self destruct and very possibly get WW III cooking off in fine fashion.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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06-30-2014 10:36 AM  3 years agoPost 89
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And, they will continue to kill themselves off faster than anyone else can do. These are tribal cultures that have been warring against themselves for hundreds of years and they will continue for hundreds of years into the future.
Like I said:

''The middle east may be a sectarian hell-hole today, but the Ottoman Empire was much more peaceful than Christian Europe for centuries before Britain and France broke it up.''

... that was less than 100 years ago.

Civil wars usually involve people ''killing themselves off.''

I heard some roadside interviews with some Iraqis last week on BBC Radio 4, who were travelling out of a town that ISIS has controlled for the last 9 months, regarding what life is like there. They said that life had pretty much carried on as normal and that ISIS were not even making women wear a hijab when the interviewer asked, and that their main problems were a shortage of utilities such as electricity and water.

When in Rome....

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06-30-2014 11:37 AM  3 years agoPost 90
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Civil wars usually involve people ''killing themselves off.''
Right.

And, that will continue for generations upon generations far, far into the future.

Besides, speaking for myself, I don't believe they would ever be successful in forming a solid union. The primary reason is that their soul purpose in doing so would be the destruction of the USA and Israel. That will not be allowed to happen. They do not want peace. That is very, very clear.

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06-30-2014 01:31 PM  3 years agoPost 91
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06-30-2014 01:58 PM  3 years agoPost 92
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Well, obviously you are to dense to understand the difference between a "Regional Problem" and an "International Problem"
I never said one was either worse or better than the other.
But you distinguish one as a "regional problem" and the other as an "international problem" for incorrect reasons. Your misunderstanding of religious fundamentalism as a racist is not a reason to make that distinction. That's why you're wrong - you simply don't know what you're talking about. You're an idiot with an idiotic conclusion.

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06-30-2014 02:02 PM  3 years agoPost 93
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obviously clueless. I don't recall the IRA ever saying "we'll see you in New York".....

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06-30-2014 02:02 PM  3 years agoPost 94
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But you distinguish one as a "regional problem" and the other as an "international problem" for incorrect reasons. Your misunderstanding of religious fundamentalism as a racist is not a reason to make that distinction. That's why you're wrong - you're simply an idiot reaching an idiotic conclusion.
Ah, the old lefty racist crapola.

Is that all you got?

It is kinda worn out when you clowns keep using it when you loose an argument.

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06-30-2014 02:06 PM  3 years agoPost 95
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Ah, the old lefty racist crapola.
Please produce the racism in any of my comments.

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06-30-2014 02:08 PM  3 years agoPost 96
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Please produce the racism in any of my comments.
Here ya go slick:
Your misunderstanding of religious fundamentalism as a racist is not a reason to make that distinction.

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06-30-2014 02:13 PM  3 years agoPost 97
unclejane

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Here ya go slick:
"Your misunderstanding of religious fundamentalism as a racist is not a reason to make that distinction"
Here, I'm merely pointing out that you are a racist. That doesn't make me a racist - try again.

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06-30-2014 02:27 PM  3 years agoPost 98
Dennis (RIP)

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Here, I'm merely pointing out that you are a racist.
Thats what I said.
That doesn't make me a racist - try again.
I never called you a racist. I merely pointed out that you resort to calling others racist when you loose an argument, like a typical looser democrat.

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06-30-2014 02:32 PM  3 years agoPost 99
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I never called you a racist. I merely pointed out that you resort to calling others racist when you loose an argument, like a typical looser democrat.
Wrong. I'm calling you a racist because you really are a racist. You simply don't think you're a racist - a type of ignorance that defines racism - but you definitely are a racist.

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06-30-2014 03:00 PM  3 years agoPost 100
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Good old UJ....ALWAYS AND I MEAN ALWAYS throwing out the race card. That is all IT has.

I have tried to keep a open mind to Muslims. But no more. Call me what you want, don't really care. The leaders prey on the poor and and uneducated. It will spread here. It is only a matter of time.

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