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06-23-2014 08:08 PM  3 years agoPost 1
darrelluh1b

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After much work the suggested flight maneuvers are ready.
http://www.helitronix.com/maneuvers/info.zip
They are suggested!! If you want to do something that is not on the list you will find a blank form fill it out 3 times one for each judge.Now the judges know what you are doing.
Please go to the AMA web site and enter for two reasons the # of entries = # of places awarded for AMA 518 and there is a $50.00 late fee. Next is so I can plan for the pilots meeting/Low country boil on sunday night at 7.
There is no late fee for Team Scale or Sport Scale because they are not AMA event but we will be flying at the same time.
Let the fun begin.

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06-23-2014 08:33 PM  3 years agoPost 2
coptrdr2

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Info
Hey Darrell,

What acft documentation is required for Sport Scale?

Thanks,

Ken

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06-23-2014 09:13 PM  3 years agoPost 3
darrelluh1b

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What it needed is a 3 view of your heli and a declaration page(Tell the judges what work you did). 1/3 of your points will from static 2/3 flying. Static will be from what you did to your heli(repainted or new skids etc.)

Team Scale uses AMA-518 rules but the pilot did not build the model.
Only the pilot must be there.

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06-23-2014 09:25 PM  3 years agoPost 4
doorman

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Checking Them Out....
Opened site and was able to download the files...
We owe Darrell a big thank you for taking the time to get these researched drawn up and posted..

THANK YOU DARRELL

These will certainly make it easier on the "old timers" and the NEW contestants to be able to take a look and choose maneuvers that you want/can do... pick your manuevers and put them into a mix for a smooth flight routine..

Everyone being on the same page, contestants and judges, will really make things run a lot better...

Still not certain whether or not I will be able to make it this year.. but still trying..

Great Job, Stan

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06-24-2014 01:29 AM  3 years agoPost 5
ssmith512

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Is the scale competition July 11-13 or August 3-7? I want to come be a spectator.

Steve

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06-24-2014 02:13 AM  3 years agoPost 6
darrelluh1b

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Sunday August 3 pilots meeting. Static monday morning, Flying monday afternoon and flying all day tuesday.
Darrell

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06-24-2014 12:16 PM  3 years agoPost 7
ssmith512

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Thanks!

Steve

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06-24-2014 02:04 PM  3 years agoPost 8
Grimracer

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Nice. thanks Darrell.

Now.. to see how this goes I am going to open up myself to see if we can help others. Each week or so I will post my progress regarding maneuver selection, flight testing, practice and the road to the nats. (I will be flying in Sport Scale)

Now.. let me look though the maneuvers and see what I can do.. (or cannot do and push myself to do)

My heil will be my MD-369 Winco Machine. (Its been a year of trying to get this thing to fly well.. its "closer"

Its a Thunder Tiger Raptor SE 50, with a Thunder Tiger MD-530 body and Thunder Tiger 56 nitro motor. I have a Double Cats 5 blade head on it and falcon blades. No more.. no less..(Its not 518 scale but it looks nice)

Grimracer

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06-24-2014 02:07 PM  3 years agoPost 9
darrelluh1b

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AMA has a typo on there web site the Sport Scale class is $40.00 not $400.00
Darrell

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06-24-2014 04:49 PM  3 years agoPost 10
Grimracer

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Darrell,

Just a few questions for us..

Do we still fly the mandatory maneuvers? And if so how many and what.

How many optional maneuvers do we fly?

Thanks in advance

Grimracer

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06-24-2014 06:00 PM  3 years agoPost 11
darrelluh1b

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Yes all classes will do the Mans.
This is out of the AMA rule book.
9. Scale Flight Plan:
9.1: Ten (10) Second Hover with
Clearing Turns (Maximum 15 points).
9.2: 45 Degree Climb Out to a
minimum of eight (8) meters. (Maximum 5
points).
9.3: Translational Landing. Minimum
altitude of eight (8) meters the helicopter will
begin a translational straight-line descent or
autorotation to a soft landing on the helipad.

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06-24-2014 06:11 PM  3 years agoPost 12
darrelluh1b

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Lets talk about the Declaration page. This is used by the judges to give the builder a higher score. Example you scratched built the cockpit seats not just installed some you got from Ebay.
All you need to do list the things you did and the things you did not build (Radio Gear) Hope this helps.

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06-24-2014 08:30 PM  3 years agoPost 13
Grimracer

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Fantastic..

Helps us all

Grimracer

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06-24-2014 09:11 PM  3 years agoPost 14
Grimracer

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This is what I plan to fly (at least test out and see how it goes)

1- Hover set with clearing turns *Mandatory*
2- 45deg ascend *Mandatory*
3- descend to landing *Mandatory*
Take off and circle to setup for lazy eight
4- Lazy eight *option*
Fly to extent
5- Low-Slow Flyby *option*
Circle around center
6- Circle *option*
Fly to extent
7- Missed Approach *option*
Fly to hover point
8- High hover *option*
Descend to Landing
(COMPLETE)

I will try to get video of my first flight so we can see how i progress..

I printed off the sheet maneuvers that I plan to fly and three more to wright down the mandantorys... I have them in order and a cheat sheet printed for my caller (and I can take this one with me to the field to help me remember)

I have a fly date set for the morning. If all goes well we might have a video of my first attempt to fly what I have planned.

Grimracer

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06-24-2014 09:43 PM  3 years agoPost 15
doorman

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Flight Routine
When you choose your 5 manuevers for freestyle, try to pick ones that you can "tie" together... in other words, when you finish the first manuever (#1 take off), you want to be in a good place to start the next one (#2 lazy eight) , and so on thru all of them #3&4).. and your landing (#5) is also a manuever with a few to choose from in the list!!! You can also make your take off a manuever to take you to your second!!!

Hope this makes sense!!??

Bottom line is make sure you are there to HAVE FUN!!!!

Stan

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06-24-2014 09:48 PM  3 years agoPost 16
darrelluh1b

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Grim
Looks good but. Free style you get 50 points with up to 20 for Artistic Impression. What is Artistic Impression The free style should flow and a pilot that does a harder maneuver gets rewarded. I would be nice if you did 5 or 10 maneuvers the points work out better for the judges just a thought.
Darrell

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06-24-2014 11:53 PM  3 years agoPost 17
marc28

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Great tips and pointers guy's..........keep them coming

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06-25-2014 03:12 AM  3 years agoPost 18
Grimracer

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Good info Darrell.. Let me hash out this part first. Some of my thoughts are.. This is my first flybarless controlled machine. I have some apprehension about all the take off and landing maneuvers to choose from. I don't want to tip over my machine.

I will likely practice the routine with my fly bar machine first.

If I can get though this part. I can add more to the routine as I go.

Grimracer

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06-25-2014 01:31 PM  3 years agoPost 19
darrelluh1b

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Grim
You are not required to have a Takeoff or Landing in the free style flying just a thought.
Darrell

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06-25-2014 04:30 PM  3 years agoPost 20
Grimracer

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OK I am confused... Maybe others are too. Just want to make it as clear as posible for me and everybody else.

The mandatory’s are just that. We have to fly 3 of those.

The optional’s are (the Free Style portion?) We can fly whatever we want.. (you have a great list of maneuvers to choose from, but can include write ins too).

We can fly from 5 to 10 option maneuvers which makes up our freestyle portion?

So we have...
Sports Scale Deliration (static if you will)
3 Mandatory maneuvers
Freestyle including our optional maneuvers

Are we close?

Grim

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