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06-20-2014 12:58 PM  4 years agoPost 1
Four Stroker

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I have been doing classic pattern 180's all summer with a 600. Our field often has a 8~10 mph cross wind. I find it impossible to do a 180 when this happens. I use too much cyclic to stay on course and can see the head speed decay at the top of the auto - and then have to land straight down.

Is there some technique that I am missing here ? Do I have to fall like a rock and do a tight 180 ? Could be that I can't see what is happening at the top.

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06-20-2014 03:59 PM  4 years agoPost 2
RogerRabbit62

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Thuerigen germany

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Try to fly them with the disk, tail following.

You have to "slip" more.

The second thing what helps tremendous is height.

Heigt is headspeed.

Try using the sim.

use -2 as negativ max and +9 as max.

then put pitch slowly to the lowest and Keep it there during the whole Approach. If you have to correct use the discvector with ail/roll and just use rudder to have the tail approx on the path.

Disc leads, tail follows, pitch stays negative 2.

At the final Approach you will use ail to lower the Speed (heli will climb if you are to fast) and then you put slowly pitch in at the Point the heli is stationary and Level it to put it into the 1 m circle ideal.

(i have some Problems there...)

Have fun

Actually wind makes them more fun.

If you have Trouble with the part outoing into the wind you Need a Little steeper Approach on AIL not on collective.
On the part with the wind it is advisable to do SIM Training of downwind Autos first to get a Feeling.
AIL is a Little different there.

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