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06-16-2014 07:45 PM  4 years agoPost 1
jackheli

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Hello all,

Just wondering if the 3GX has this capability.
All help would be most appreciated.

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06-16-2014 09:36 PM  4 years agoPost 2
dkshema

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Nothing you can adjust, it is said to work with rotor head systems consisting of 2 to 5 main rotors.

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06-17-2014 05:30 AM  4 years agoPost 3
jackheli

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How can it work with 5 blade rotor heads with no Phasing adjustment?

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06-17-2014 01:05 PM  4 years agoPost 4
dkshema

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With proper mechanical setup, why shouldn't it work?

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06-17-2014 01:43 PM  4 years agoPost 5
co_rotorhead

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I think what jackheli is saying is that Align specifically stating it "works with rotor head systems consisting of 2 to 5 blades" could easily be misinterpreted as meaning it supports electronic phasing --it kind of implies that there's an option within the software to set the phasing angle.

Of course with mechanical phasing it will work, but with that said, every FBL controller could say they work with multi-blade heads.

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06-17-2014 04:30 PM  4 years agoPost 6
jackheli

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co_rotorhead: Exactly!

Guess I'll have twisted rods going up to the head... Will look horrible.

Maybe I should look for another controller.

Many thanks all.

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06-18-2014 01:26 AM  4 years agoPost 7
dkshema

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You can easily download and install the PC software and actually LOOK at the stuff you can adjust.

The 3GX depends to a great extent upon a proper mechanical setup of the control system (and that can't be a BAD thing, can it?). It is a flybarless control system, not a band aid installed to make a poor setup fly well.

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06-18-2014 01:36 AM  4 years agoPost 8
don s

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Electronic phasing is not a bandaid.

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06-18-2014 03:33 AM  4 years agoPost 9
co_rotorhead

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Electronic phasing is not a bandaid.
This ^

I have a 4-blade head on one of my helis. It is mechanically phased. The linkage rods from the swash to the grips are angled 45 degrees. It flies awesome like this, with or without a FBL controller. However I would like to have those linkage rods as straight as possible between the swash and the grips. A FBL controller that supports electronic phasing will allow me to do this. It has nothing to do with a good or poor setup.

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06-18-2014 07:12 PM  4 years agoPost 10
icanfly

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don't worry about the angled push rods (mechanical phasing), I have angled ones on my 450 because a crash tore out a long stem type balls on one grip. I replaced the two with a ball that has a shorter stem and live with the angled pitch links on my fbl heli. No phasing problems as long as the swash ball is at 90 degree to the blade. Only thing I had to look out for was the link touching the follower screws.

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06-18-2014 07:25 PM  4 years agoPost 11
co_rotorhead

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I'm not worried about, I just don't particularly care for how it looks.

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06-18-2014 07:30 PM  4 years agoPost 12
JKos

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not a band aid installed to make a poor setup fly well.
Electronic phasing is not a bandaid. Phasing can be handled mechanically or in the control system; it doesn't matter as long as it is done correctly.

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06-18-2014 10:43 PM  4 years agoPost 13
doorman

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Mechanical Mixing..
It's not too bad up to 4 blade heads to use mechanical mixing..but over 4 blades, there is usually not enough room for the swash lock and the grip pushrods to play nice...
There are quite a few multi's out there that are listed as plug and play that use a J type control arm to set the proper phasing..
I think that downloading the manual for the 3GX is the best suggestion, to find out if there is an electronic phasing function..

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06-19-2014 03:35 AM  4 years agoPost 14
dkshema

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There IS NO electronic phasing function in the 3GX. As noted above, it would expect you to take care of things mechanically.

I understand the need and the desire for an easier way to get the phasing taken care of. Perhaps my "band aid" statement was a bit too dramatic.

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06-19-2014 04:04 AM  4 years agoPost 15
revmix

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for low & medium head-speed setup no FBL unit is needed at all, works just like the real chopper [even the sound too]

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