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06-08-2014 07:28 PM  4 years agoPost 1
Harry Spillett

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Faversham, Kent, England

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Hello,

I tried to ask this question in the simulator section but i did not get an answer, pehaps someone here can offer some advice. I am trying to fine tune Phoenix to match my model more closely so I can practice autorotations. up untill now the sim has been "close enough" to the real thing for practice so I have not fiddled with many settings.

Should I make all of my settings on the TX such as throttle and pitch curves or am I supposed to enter all of these settings on the sim itself and leave the TX with more or less linear curves?

I initially tried making adjustments on the TX but they ended up being significantly different to my real life curves. This seems strange as I thought the models were supposed to be fairly accurate and would require similar control inputs.

If I make changes to the throttle curves on the sim it looks like I then have to do some odd programing to enable throttle hold and idle up settings. (like using keyboard keys instead of the real TX switches) are the sim curves supposed to be for fine tuning?

It is getting to the point where I need to practice on the model to see how the sim should fly not the other way around!

Thank you.

H

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06-08-2014 10:22 PM  4 years agoPost 2
Paulieb1979

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Autorotation
Sim is way to easy to auto if you can fly it in you can auto. Don't get false sense of accomplishment with autos on sim and think it will be like this in real time. Just watch your pitch on the way down not to bleed of headspead.

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06-08-2014 10:59 PM  4 years agoPost 3
Harry Spillett

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Thanks,

This is exactly what I am worried about. My simulated and real world helis are not very well matched in this respect.

I have tried some throttle hold descents with power recovery (real world) but i am having trouble maintaining forward speed without diving for the ground. The model wants to pitch up and flare by itself. I dont have such a marked response in the sim so it makes it, relatively easy.

H

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06-09-2014 04:39 AM  4 years agoPost 4
BOB WHO?

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Downey, Ca.

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Are you making changes in your radio or are you editing the model in Phoenix?

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06-09-2014 11:49 AM  4 years agoPost 5
Richardmid1

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Leeds, England

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Here are the things I do on nearly every model in Phoenix to make them more life like:

1. Add more weight to the model (make them less floaty).

2. Decrease blade inertia (more life like auto's)(see how low you can go and still pull off an inverted auto! Great training!).

3. Decrease motor/engine power. (again more life like especially the nitros).

4. Increase vortex lift loss %. (varies the pitch response during hard 3d according to whether the heli is being sucked down by its own blade draft or not, again more true to life)

5. Select standard flybarred head (again makes things a bit more difficult and heli flys actually closer to a real life FBL heli).

The idea is to make the heli less easy to fly so when you get to fly for real it WILL be easy!

60% of the time, it works every time!

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06-09-2014 01:08 PM  4 years agoPost 6
dkshema

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Cedar Rapids, IA

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As noted, edit the model to feel more "real". And set up a model in your TX as you would fly it. Use TX settings to fly.

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