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06-05-2014 02:19 AM  4 years agoPost 21
rcmiket

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What is an AMA gold field? I looked on te AMA website but couldn't find it in the documents so anybody have a link to the classifications?
http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/708.pdf

Here's the info. While our club is very active in the community and hold charity events on a regular basis we don't see the need.

As far as RC Cars. As long as they can operate without interfering with flying whats the big deal? I don't see the car guys flocking to pay dues to use the field though.
Mike

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06-05-2014 11:35 AM  4 years agoPost 22
Retired2011

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As far as RC Cars. As long as they can operate without interfering with flying whats the big deal?
A few of examples of "what's the big deal?"already expressed in this thread...
I would not want to constantly hear the screaming sound of a nitro buggy behind me.
They kick up dirt and rocks all over the damn place.
There is a group where we fly, and it is a terrible mess.
We fly on top an enbankment and a guy with an RC buggy thought it would be cool to use the sides of the enbankment as a ramp. Flew 7' near me and he crop dusted the heli's and equipment with a layer of dirt!
Those are the more reasonable responses.

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06-05-2014 11:57 AM  4 years agoPost 23
rcmiket

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I would not want to constantly hear the screaming sound of a nitro buggy behind me.
Were did it say that they would be operating behind them? Read the original post.
They kick up dirt and rocks all over the damn place.
There is a group where we fly, and it is a terrible mess
This would not be a issue if they were placed in a area away from the flight line. Who in their right mind would permit that on the flight line anyway? Read the original post.
We fly on top an enbankment and a guy with an RC buggy thought it would be cool to use the sides of the enbankment as a ramp. Flew 7' near me and he crop dusted the heli's and equipment with a layer of dirt!
OK I'll give you this one. Did the club allow this individual to continue doing this?

The OP stated that a portion of the land would be sectioned off for rc car use. Done properly this could actually work. Anything is possible even plank and heli guys getting along. Growing the club possibly attracting more potential pilots is always a good thing.
I deal with the rc car crowd everyday while I have no desire to drive rc cars I've noticed that most are just like us. All they want is a place to play with their toys.

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06-05-2014 12:20 PM  4 years agoPost 24
Retired2011

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I read the original post.

He asked for opinions and experiences...that's what people are giving.

No one knows where the cars will be, or how much land there is to divide up...doesn't matter...he can apply the opinions as he sees fit.

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06-05-2014 01:02 PM  4 years agoPost 25
FunkieChicken99

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We have a large field, one of the RC cars came driving out by a member that was flying and he looked down and crashed.

Kenneth.... Fly Safe!

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06-05-2014 03:01 PM  4 years agoPost 26
Riq

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Thanks for all the opinions.

Here is our website for info minotaircraftmodelers.org

We own 4 sections of land, 3 of which we lease out to a farmer. I proposed they go to the exact opposite field and have at it. The "knowers" of our group said it takes away from our revenue. There are lots of open areas in/around farm land, and there is a perfectly good slew for them to wash up in afterwards.

There is/was a nice track 5 miles away, as well as one near the hobbyshop at a park, and I asked about that, but they were closed and neglected, so I wondered why ours wouldnt be treated the same?

I didnt state my opinion to keep my neutrality, but I feel the way jwatson and others do; once that proverbial door is opened, goodbye to nice flyin. Now we have all kinds of yahoos that bring all kinds of stuff. I fly helis and am already bombed with the normal questions most everytime I fly.......Im going to start wearing headphones and a shirt that says stay back I bite.

Our field was a historic case of old folks building it and having it forever, so it was kind of their rules. We had a newer guy come in a blow them all up where they will never come back and he is bringing all kinds of new rules and dissecting all the old. That has brought about a change where we now have very few people willing to mow, maintenance is no where near where it used to be, and rc cars are being brought in.

The kicker to me is that most of the folks were ok with the idea of it being a trial basis, and if they were not primarily there to fly they are open to be voted out of the club. Yikes, our meetings are already a sisyphean task.....

Ama's stance is they support it as they support that hobby as well.

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06-05-2014 04:09 PM  4 years agoPost 27
Jeff polisena

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When you have 2000.00 plus aircraft and the respect behind it then a RC car track can be a pain . If track is too close then bad but if space and wind are to your favor then good . If no one is in charge to keep all following the rules then not good either . Most car tracks don't last long because it seems to bring people hanging out ,drinking and then the arguing starts

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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06-07-2014 11:59 AM  4 years agoPost 28
Pascal-KC

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Yeah, I would not open Pandora's box and keep RC Cars in a different place. What good does it do to cram cars and helis on one site? It seems to be a recipe for bad neighbor problems.

Team Mikado, Team Revolectrix, KBDD Team Pilot

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06-07-2014 11:03 PM  4 years agoPost 29
Rudy

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There is/was a nice track 5 miles away, as well as one near the hobbyshop at a park, and I asked about that, but they were closed and neglected, so I wondered why ours wouldnt be treated the same?
If you have two other tracks near by that are poorly ran or closed, that is probably a sign of things to come if you put a track in.

Rudy Ackerman Houston TX/Bend OR

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06-08-2014 03:14 AM  4 years agoPost 30
earlwb

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A decent car track needs to be maintained, watered, etc.
But if the track is a separate area, I don't see any real problems though.

One thing is that the cars tend to do the same thing as the big ones do and tear up the terrain in the same way. The grass gets torn up and killed where the cars run. So that could be a problem depending on how you use the car area. Grooves get cut into the ground which leads to erosion when it rains.

So you need a track area laid out and setup for the cars. it has to be watered and maintained so it doesn't just dry up and go away on you. They usually use water to maintain a certain amount of moisture in a dirt track which keeps the packed dirt in place and hard plus it keeps the dust down too.

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06-08-2014 12:44 PM  4 years agoPost 31
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Have you seen how big and fast some of these cars and buggies are? It needs a lot of space. Our club thought about it, but never got the thing going. Reading what has been said here makes me think less of the idea.

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06-09-2014 01:32 AM  4 years agoPost 32
cudaboy_71

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I belonged to a club that tried this nearly 20 years ago (jees...has it been that long already?)

the endeavor started out gang busters. there were 5-6 guys in the club of 30+ actives that wanted a dirt track. did the whole motion, seconded, vote, passed for every stage of the project. it finally got done 6 months later and there was a track. first weekend out there were 4-5 buggies racing around the track. a month later i'd see a guy out there occasionally. by the end of the year it was overgrown with weeds.

i guess my point is make sure there are enough active guys in the club to use it. you will NOT attract more members to your club with a track. guys that drive trucks competitively already have a place to go. and casuals just do it in a free dirt field near their house. if the membership that is actively lobbying for it doesn't use it, and maintain it no one else will.

if it ain't broke, break it.

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06-10-2014 08:55 PM  4 years agoPost 33
rktman56

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Here is a shot of our flying field with the trial area for R/C trucks identified in a yellow box. Our club owns 55 acres of land, of which we actively fly on 15 acres. The 15 acres area is shown in the image as the cut grass areas with the remaining crop areas to the North and East being leased out to a farmer that brings in income to the club.

[url=http://www.minotaircraftmodelers.org/images/Trial%20rctruckareaMAMFlyingField2014.jpg]

The flying areas can clearly be seen with the two 600' grass runways and single 500' grass runway. The flying areas are setup with the primary purpose of this field being for aero modeling. The pit areas, tables and pit fence are clearly visible identifying the flying areas. The track is far away form the flying areas and most of the members in the club so far have been using electric cars or trucks. So far the nitro and gas trucks ran to test the noise levels have not been a problem to flying pilots, but the club will monitor this noise and ensure that it doesn't pose any problems to any flying pilots.

The purpose of this track is to allow MAM (Minot Aircraft Modelers) members who have their AMA a place to run their trucks IF they want to. On windy days, after flying or any other reason that they may have to run their trucks... Plus we even have a few wives in the club who have trucks that have shown interest in playing with their trucks while their husband(s) is flying. Just think, the wife has fun while at the field, allowing the husband to fly longer. It was told to members at ALL who use the RC track must have a current AMA membership.

The track is cut grass at 1.5" that the trucks run on, this is the same height that our runways are cut at. The rest of the areas around the track are cut to 4", the same as the rest of the grass in the common areas around the field. This allow the "up keep" of the track easy as the club mowers are already set to mow these heights. No plans for dirt or any other type of track surface is in the works. Members have talked about such surfaces but understand this year the club membership has yet to approve this track on any permanent basis, so such improvements are years down the road, if they are allowed to happen at all.

At the June 3rd meeting, the club membership voted to allow the track on a trial basis for MAM members with current AMA and to vote for approval at the end of the season. IF the MEMBERSHIP votes to remove it, it's GONE!!!

I've read through this thread and noted some missing information. I hope the picture and my post removes a little confusion on our situation. I see allot of negatives with this idea, but also some positives. It's going to take our members that use this R/C track to ensure the tracks success now and also in the future, if the club membership wants to keep it!

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