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04-24-2014 07:24 AM  6 years ago
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es1co2bar3

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Georgia governor signs sweeping gun bill into law

We're doom how many state will follow this fanatic idea?????
gees.

04/23/14 02:07 PM—Updated 04/23/14 10:29 PM

Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a sweeping gun bill into law on Wednesday, allowing patrons to carry firearms into bars, nightclubs, school classrooms, and certain government buildings that lack security personnel or devices.

RELATED: Georgia lawmakers pass controversial ‘guns everywhere’ bill

“As governor, I have signed legislation that protects the rights to keep and bear arms. It is a right that is ingrained in the very fabric of our nation,” Deal, a Republican, said moments before signing the controversial bill. “America today cherishes this right so that people who follow the rules can protect themselves and their families from those who don’t follow the rules.”

The law also provides religious leaders the decision to “opt in” to allow guns on their worship premises. Additionally, the legislation grants access to permit-holders to carry guns into Transportation Security Administration (TSA) checkpoints in airports with no penalty.

“We live in a dangerous world, and while I cannot begin to explain the reasons someone might seek to take the life of another, I want wholeheartedly that Georgians, should they choose to take responsibility for the safety of themselves and their families, [to] have that option,” State Rep. Rick Jasperse, a Republican and author of the bill, said Wednesday.

Jasperse and other supporters have tried to pass similar legislation for the past two years.

Deal, who previously supported loosening gun restrictions and holds an “A” rating from the National
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04-24-2014 07:31 AM  6 years ago
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Mothers of gun victims speak out against ‘Stand Your Ground’

I hope the government have enough body bag for innocent that'll
suffer by this gun bill
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Two mothers of gun violence victims pleaded with lawmakers on a Senate panel Tuesday to amend controversial “Stand Your Ground” gun laws across the country.

Sybrina Fulton, the mother of Trayvon Martin, and Lucy McBath, the mother of Jordan Davis, provided emotional testimonies at a hearing that examined the self-defense laws adoped by at least 22 states and told the panel how their unarmed sons were shot and killed by men who were protected by those laws.

“What kind of message are we sending if our kids in our communities don’t feel safe?” asked Fulton in her prepared remarks. “Don’t feel safe simply walking to the store to get candy and a drink. The person that shot and killed my son is walking the streets today. And this law does not work. We need to seriously take a look at this law.”

McBath, another Florida mother who lost her 17-year-old son Jordan in 2012. He was shot and killed by Michael Dunn in a Jacksonville parking lot. Dunn said he acted in self-defense when he fired eight or nine bullets at Davis and his three other unarmed teenage friends inside their vehicle. Dunn claimed the music playing inside the teenagers’ vehicle was too loud and a verbal altercation took place before he took out his gun.

In her testimony, McBath pleaded with lawmakers to re-examine the laws that defend gun owners’ rights but do nothing to protect the victims at the other end of a barrel.

“The man who killed him opened fire on four unarmed teenagers,” said McBath, also the spokesperson for Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America. “Even as they tried to move out of harm’s way, that man was empowered by the Stand Your Ground statute. I am here to tell you that there was no ground to stand. There was no threat. No one was trying to invade his home, his vehicle nor threatened him or his family.”

“Now I face the very real possibility that my son’s killer will walk free. Hiding behind a statute that lets people claim a threat where there was none. This law declares open season on anyone we don’t trust for reasons that we don’t even have to understand. They don’t even have to be true. In essence, it allows any armed citizen to self-deputize themselves and establish their own definition of law and order. It lets one and all define their own criteria for right and wrong, and how justice will be carried out,” she said.

Dunn, a registered gun-owner, will reportedly be using a Stand Your Ground defense when he goes to trial on first-degree murder and attempted murder charges early in 2014.

Senate committee chairman Dick Durbin led the inquiry, along with Sen. Ted Cruz, the ranking member of the subcommittee. Both senators thanked the mothers for sharing their testimonies and extended their sympathies to the victims’ families.

Cruz weighed in on the acquittal of the George Zimmerman v. Florida case and clarified that Zimmerman did not raise the Stand Your Ground laws in his defense. ”Sadly, we know that some in our political process have a desire to exploit that tragic violent incident for agendas that have nothing to do with that young man who lost his life,” Cruz said. “This entire hearing, the topic of this hearing, is not the issue in which that trial turned.”

Cruz also accused Durbin of “enflaming racial tensions that I think are sad and irresponsible.”

“The chairman of this committee made a remarkable statement to the effect that no one could reasonably believe that “Stand your ground” laws protect those in the African-American communities who are victims of violent crime,” said the Texas conservative. “A great many African-Americans find themselves victims of violent crime and have asserted this defense to defend themselves, defend their families, and defend their childrnen.”

Cruz later brought up how in 2004, then-Illinois State Sen. Barack Obama co-sponsored an expansion of Illinois’ law that provided civil immunity for those who use justifiable force to defend themselves.

“The notion that Stand Your Ground laws are some some form of veiled racism maybe a convenient political attack but it is not born out of the facts remotely,” Cruz said.

Self defense laws in at least 22 states – Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Montana, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee West Virginia and Wisconsin – provide civil immunity under certain self defense circumstances, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Florida was the first state to pass the “Stand your ground” laws in 2005.

“I never got to take his prom picture or see him graduate from high school. I can tell you all about him, about his easy smile, his first girlfriend, and his plans to join the Marines, I can tell you how he loved his father’s gumbo and how they both rooted for the New York Giants. But you can never know my boy because an angry man who owned a gun kept it close at hand and chose to demonstrate unbridled hatred one balmy evening for reasons I will never understand,” McBath said, after choking back stifled
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04-24-2014 11:24 AM  6 years ago
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Cruz weighed in on the acquittal of the George Zimmerman v. Florida case and clarified that Zimmerman did not raise the Stand Your Ground laws in his defense. ”Sadly, we know that some in our political process have a desire to exploit that tragic violent incident for agendas that have nothing to do with that young man who lost his life,” Cruz said. “This entire hearing, the topic of this hearing, is not the issue in which that trial turned.”
Cruz also accused Durbin of “enflaming racial tensions that I think are sad and irresponsible.”
I hope you read this part! Let it sink in?
You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.
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04-24-2014 01:25 PM  6 years ago
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sweet...coming to Florida soon.
Raise your kids right esco and it will never effect you. Raise them as thugs....and you're going to have a problem.
Good luck...and I mean that.
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04-24-2014 01:32 PM  6 years ago
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Has no comprehension skill, most H.S test at what used too be the 8th grade level.

It is also worse in several State Demographic group's / guess which state's?

They are processing numbers to just get the rush to have them exit the system and get the TAX support from FED Level .

NEVER should allowed graduation till the skill level was reached. Continually lowering testing procedures making it worse.

They Can NOT Read or understand the written Word's.

No Encouragement to achieve even basic education
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04-24-2014 01:42 PM  6 years ago
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"Thomas your blind as a bat, the case wasn't tried on SYG but they
plea the case that way, listen to the juror that said a last min counseling from the judge create the confusion.

[quote]sweet...coming to Florida soon.
Raise your kids right esco and it will never effect you. Raise them as thugs....and you're going to have a problem.
Good luck...and I mean that.

Hey man unprovoked murder is unprovoked murder ok, so saying your
being attack when your not to justify killing people all because
of this one provision exit call SYG]. "How many of this crap you seen so far ? far too dam many ok' ,and it need to be fix for it
create the sanctuary for unprovoked murder]
so get a grip on your blooming self and stop being a self promoted
idiot."
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04-24-2014 02:19 PM  6 years ago
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hey, invoking SYG doesn't mean you just get let off the hook. What you don't like is that a bunch of your buddies will be served a lead lunch in the future because of how they lead their lives. Maybe one day they'll all figure out it's not worth sticking up strangers on the street when there's a good chance they'll eat a bullet. You break into my house and I'm home, you're leaving in a sack.....period. Carjack me??? Same result.
And...I laugh at your example. Those 4 kids were armed, they just didn't find the gun(s) because they drove off and had like an hour to ditch their firearms. Guarantee you, they all had records.
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04-24-2014 02:39 PM  6 years ago
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hey, invoking SYG doesn't mean you just get let off
"Then you must have miss the all them trial........{!thinks}
it need to be fix for it
create the sanctuary for unprovoked murder]
You've missed the whole points here.........! thinks pls.

"I am sure you'll not bring a fist to a gun fight just think who's
stupid enough to.?

The innocent folks who allow to carry gun trough the street are the one playing super cop/confronted folks all because they're strap,

Then when the fatal bullet go forth they say self defense.
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04-24-2014 02:43 PM  6 years ago
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The Innocent are NOT STUPID :

The Gun Sort's the Idiot's from the Innocent

Which are you ??
The innocent folks who allow to carry gun trough the street are the one playing super cop/confronted folks all because they're strap,
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04-24-2014 02:51 PM  6 years ago
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The Gun Sort's the Idiot's from the Innocent
stay in hiding pls cause I MO direct that post right back at you
you should be sorted for your idiotic typing.
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04-24-2014 03:03 PM  6 years ago
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Who's Job should it be too protect the Helpless and Innocent in the Middle East ?? That cannot protect them selves ??

How many Dead ? How many Living in tent's ?
How many are starving that we are feeding ?

When do we PROTECT ? or Wait for a City to Explode ?

How far has it spread ?? Are they Innocent ?

Or send them back home right back into it ??

Who's JOB ??

Maybe give the Innocent GUN's and LOT's of them and let the Innocent sort the Idiot's to learn the Lesson ?

2 Million on the Border now
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04-24-2014 03:49 PM  6 years ago
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The innocent folks who allow to carry gun trough the street are the one playing super cop/confronted folks all because they're strap,
You just said it!! "The innocent folks".... that's right, they are innocent. And they should have the right to protect themselves from the bad guys. But you would rather have the bad guys have the upper hand so they can rob, rape and kill at will.
Most likely you feel that way because the people you associate with are....the bad guys.
Sorry, but you should plan on attending LOTS of funerals for your friends in the future. Tell them to quit breaking the law and they'll be just fine....
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04-24-2014 03:54 PM  6 years ago
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Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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04-24-2014 03:56 PM  6 years ago
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let the Innocent sort the Idiot's to learn the Lesson ?
And your still shining this must be a curse to Rass that we have to put up with your level of stupidity.
I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,
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04-24-2014 03:59 PM  6 years ago
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would rather have the bad guys have the upper hand so they can rob, rape and kill at will.
So what happen when we put guns in everybody hands didn't we just create more the same activity you just mention,? make sense isn't it?.
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04-24-2014 04:10 PM  6 years ago
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ABSOLUTELY -FREE - Then GIVE OUT THE BIG STUFF when they are qualified to spit on it or pee on on it.

The Dumb ONE's DIE - The SMART ONE"S : Look at the Dumb One's

Sort's the Intelligent factor - They where Stupid - The Idiot's

The SMART ONE's protect the Innocent ONE's ! from Dumb One's

Known as DEFENSE

Don't spend your time in the Huddle
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04-24-2014 04:39 PM  6 years ago
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So what happen when we put guns in everybody hands didn't we just create more the same activity you just mention,?
Nope. People that carry legally are upstanding citizens with a clean record, otherwise they wouldn't get that permit. I know LOTS of people with CCW permits and none of them have ever shot anybody. I'll have mine soon.
You have a really weird way of looking at things. Criminals aren't supposed to have a gun right??? So why do you think most crimes are committed by people that aren't supposed to even have a gun???
Do you still have yours???
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04-24-2014 05:06 PM  6 years ago
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I don't even know why both of those cases are mentioned TOGETHER. They consist of entirely different situations.

Any person can "claim" self defense and they would be stupid NOT to do so. However, that needs to be determined in court as it was in both entirely different cases.
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04-24-2014 05:31 PM  6 years ago
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right on. I have a very good friend that carries (he has his CCW)whenever he legally can.... even when I get my license, I will not carry at all times. I think he's a little over the top, but he does have medical issues and would be easy pickings for a bad guy, so I don't blame him there.
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04-24-2014 05:55 PM  6 years ago
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Republican, said moments before signing the controversial bill. “America today cherishes this right so that people who follow the rules can protect themselves and their families from those who don’t follow the rules.”
"I want to be specific how is this fixing the problem when the above quote is never always the case. com'on somebody explain that
crap right there.
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