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04-25-2014 03:10 PM  6 years ago
whoamis

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Richard did you use the Raptor crash kit in your calculation? Seems unlikely.oops, bounced it!
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04-25-2014 07:06 PM  6 years ago
rexxigpilot

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Here's my view on Align and whether they hold up. They were OK when I first started flying and for about the first two years. However, as my ability to push the heli harder increased and I flew more flights between crashes, I found the Align helis just don't cut it. The parts failed - gears stripped, CF and aluminum broke, dampeners and bearings wore out quickly, and canopy mounting systems failed. When I found myself spending a lot of my time replacing parts and repairing helis due to parts failure, it became obvious to me that I needed a better built model. That's what led me to my first Mikado, a Logo 600, and other brands. Since trying various models from Align, Thunder Tiger, MA, Mikado, SAB, ElyQ, CY, JR, Kasama, Hirobo, Synergy, Compass and Beam. I found the Align helis near the bottom when it comes to surviving heavy punishment, high number of flights and/or long term use. Don't get me wrong, most Align helis do fly nicely. I still have 3 of them. I simply got to the point in my flying where I needed something that I could fly hard and put away wet. The Aligns just didn't do that for me anymore.
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04-25-2014 07:27 PM  6 years ago
unclejane

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I simply got to the point in my flying where I needed something that I could fly hard and put away wet. The Aligns just didn't do that for me anymore.
I dunno... looking at my DFC Pro... Like I said, it's not your grandpa's Trex.....

It is way more strongly built than my 700E old school V1 and I think it would hold up to a lot more punishment. Especially the drive train which is worlds stronger than the one on my V1....

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04-25-2014 07:27 PM  6 years ago
3dgimble

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WOW REXX,
I wish I could have told it better.
BTW, I still strip the V3 drive train like butter.
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04-25-2014 08:38 PM  6 years ago
RM3

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Best 700 for the money...

Its not a Century I can tell you that much...
showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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04-25-2014 09:16 PM  6 years ago
JKos

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I don't understand you guys who can't keep an Align together.
Your flying style is very easy on the machine. That makes a big difference.

- John
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04-25-2014 09:33 PM  6 years ago
7Quick7

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I think a lot of you guys over think our hobby. I have many machines. Two of them being align. The 550 I have countless flights on it and still going great with O.E.M parts and electronics from day one for over three years now.
It's all about P.M and making sure you have the correct back lash as far as main gears. Mess that up and yes, there going to strip or shorten the life of your motor.

Best 700 for the money IMO is the KDS 700 Innova V2.
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04-25-2014 10:47 PM  6 years ago
unclejane

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Your flying style is very easy on the machine. That makes a big difference.
Well maybe you're right. Especially having gone down to 6S on my FPV choppers, that basically cuts the wear down to 1/10th what it would be otherwise LOL....

But I have to say my 800 is built absolutely like a tank. It's hard to imagine it being flimsy even under very hard usage. The main gear and OWB is the only thing that looks a little slight, but the rest of it is super strong.

They even did a good job on the tail, which is very strong and slop-free...

LS
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04-26-2014 03:46 AM  6 years ago
HeimD

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Blade 700X
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04-26-2014 06:05 AM  6 years ago
HeimD

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I can speak from owning a Nano and 130x, E-Flite/Blade/Horizon make their money off of parts. Blade parts are over priced in my opinion.
If you haven't even looked at the Blade Pro Series line of helis, then you're full of crap. The Pro Series parts are VERY reasonable. Comparing tiny BNF plastic framed micros to full carbon/aluminum KITS? Hey, everyone! Let's compare the micro Align Trex 150 to their 700 kits!
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04-26-2014 07:38 AM  6 years ago
Flys4Fun

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blade helis, large and small, seen em in person and flew a few to test and I wouldnt touch those helis again with a 10 foot pole, but that just me.

the tt raptor e700 has my vote when Im ready to buy and fly again.
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04-26-2014 08:20 AM  6 years ago
HeimD

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blade helis, large and small, seen em in person and flew a few to test and I wouldnt touch those helis again with a 10 foot pole, but that just me.
Describe "large" and WHY regarding your Blade comments.

Before you say 550X-700X "just cuz I know Blade sux" or whatever, post pics/proof beyond mere text or it never happened.

I've had a 550X combo kit since last year and it's coming up on 400 flights. It's been a great performing AND reliable heli that gets flown hard consistently. Changes/mods to stock? Metal canopy posts (needed), motor pinion and tail blades...and that's it... The last two didn't need changing out of the box. I did it for personal preference. I'm putting a 700X together right now and the component quality is even nicer than my 550X when it comes to machining, laser etching, etc. These heli KITS aren't your daddy's E-flite/Blade BNF plastic framed helis of the past.
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04-26-2014 01:50 PM  6 years ago
kingmeow

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If you haven't even looked at the Blade Pro Series line of helis, then you're full of crap. The Pro Series parts are VERY reasonable. Comparing tiny BNF plastic framed micros to full carbon/aluminum KITS? Hey, everyone! Let's compare the micro Align Trex 150 to their 700 kits!
Calm down there tough guy. Do you always yell at people's opinion that's different than yours? You're not getting the point there buddy. I'm not comparing micros to 700. It's Blade's business model that I'm describing.

I'm not a Blade hater, I have two of their products and they have the best customer service in town. However, most of the die hard hobbyists see Blade as a "mass merchandiser" thus when you go 700 size, Blade is not the first thing that comes to people's mind.

No one is saying that your selection of the 700X is a foolish one so stop being a fanboy.
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04-26-2014 06:37 PM  6 years ago
RM3

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so stop being a fanboy
...oh boy...get the popcorn, here we go.
showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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04-26-2014 07:10 PM  6 years ago
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I have owned many Blade micros over the years. I am not a big fan of their heli line, but the little ones crash easy, are cheap and can be fun in the right settings. Comparing the micros to even a 450 is a joke, they are 2 different worlds. Although they can be fun at times, I find the quality is not great, especially the harder the micros are flown.

With the 700x it was a completely different story. I built one for a friend and the kit went together without a hitch. I was very suprised/impressed with the overall fit and finish as well as how easilly it came together. There was some room for improvment, but for a first run 700, it is very nice and near the same level as most of the competition. I don't own one personally, so I can't comment on longevity or crashing, but I have built more than 10 90/700 size helis and this one was not dissapointing.
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04-27-2014 12:01 AM  6 years ago
HeimD

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Do you always yell at people's opinion that's different than yours?
Queue "World's Most Interesting Man" meme...

Kingmeow: "I don't always compare helis of one size and contruction type but, when I do, I make ridiculous comparisons of box ready plastic micros to kit build 700s."
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04-27-2014 12:02 AM  6 years ago
OICU812

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Quality of a machine, longevity will all be sorted based on how hard the pilot flies it. That's the largest separation of machines. Of course if you baby the Heli and are just doing basics even the cheapest crap will last "to a point". However machines like Logos can take a beating all day long and just keep flying......Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
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04-27-2014 12:54 AM  6 years ago
Retired2011

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...oh boy...get the popcorn, here we go.
Just put him on ignore guys, like I did some time ago...
he's a long time troll that has had many user names.
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04-27-2014 07:12 AM  6 years ago
BobOD

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I find the biggest difference in longevity is head speed...in combination with aggressiveness of flight of course. Fly brand x at brand y's recommended HS and it'll last just as long.
But, that's just plain BOOOORRRRRING.
Team POP Secret
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04-27-2014 07:43 AM  6 years ago
Calil

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I would suggest Align also.

Here in Brazil I can tell 99% of the helicopters are Align and Goblin. I only fly align, but I will give a try in another brand in the future. I was going to buy a Wiplash and two days after I decided that Miniature Aircraft closed doors.

I tried....
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