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04-21-2014 08:30 PM  6 years ago
earlwb

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I have heard about some RC clubs banning helicopters before. I don't remember which ones though as I don't think they have a club in Texas that did it so far. So I don't pay much attention to the clubs not near me.

But there have been some rather exclusive clubs that may restrict membership quite a bit. Either as a limit on how many can be members or just because the leadership are jerks. I remember one club being jerks about it and they eventually lost their flying area because they had no one left to help them defend keeping it.
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04-21-2014 11:20 PM  6 years ago
cwdoherty

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Putting safety aside. you dont want any kind of distraction while your flying your heli. If thats a risk than find another spot. I know its rough for people living in cities.If you see me running you should probably also be running.
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04-22-2014 02:02 AM  6 years ago
kingmeow

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Thinking to myself. I wonder if an AMA chartered club can ban helis or other flying crafts and still be an AMA chartered club and supported by the AMA?

I wonder if there are bylaws against such discriminatory actions? (Yes, I'm a member but I'm a bit lazy to research it. )
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04-22-2014 03:35 AM  6 years ago
earlwb

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Yes some AMA clubs have banned RC helicopters at their flying fields. I think they are being unreasonable, but it happens. But if the club has it in their bylaws to allow everything then they have to vote and change their bylaws. Some clubs did that. I think they are shooting themselves in the feet doing it though. One day their flying field will be up for grabs by the government and developers and they won't have anyone to help them keep the field or relocate. I have seen that happen to clubs that got taken over by the jerks and idiots and everyone else left.

Why can't people just work together and get along?

Oh yeah, some clubs banned FPV's and multi-rotor aircraft too.
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04-22-2014 11:11 AM  6 years ago
jhartsock3

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I have been running into it at a few flying sites around here. It's mostly older guys who only fly planes and think that Helis are to dangerous. But some of it stems from new people to the club who have showed up with helis and don't know how to fly and create dangerous situations. I tell them I just won't fly when your in the air. For the most part after they watch a few flights they get comfortable and realize the difference between a newbie with a poorly setup heli and some one with experience and a proper setup. But if you are having an issue finding places to fly, find a couple other people and start your own club. Also I find churches are great places to fly sometimes, Most don't mind if you ask and most usually have ball fields or big enough open areas to fly bigger helicopters.
AMA also has resources that will help with finding or starting a club just give them a call or email.
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04-22-2014 02:56 PM  6 years ago
HeliNutAndy

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Andy,
That is strange that the club denied membership. If you fly safe, abide by the rules, and pay your dues, there should be no reason not to become a member.

Are there any heli pilots there? To whom did you speak to?
Hi Stephen,

I actually met up with a local heli pilot who offered club membership to me after we flew together. When I followed up with him he did not get back to me. I don't like to harass people so I moved on. I became a member of the AMA last year just to support the cause but I did not renew this year. I don't know if my perception is way off and I have no exposure to the sport other than this forum but man it appears to me that this hobby is a mess. The main retailer I use has been down for the last couple of weeks. I called them to see what was going on and come to find out that they upgraded their server. Usually not a big deal but the support person told me the owner was on vacation during the upgrade. I guess sipping on Martinis is more important. MA went out of business as soon as I dump a couple grand into a gasser after doing what I thought was valid research. In place of the gasser I purchased a Goblin 770 and it was missing several small parts. A screw here and a nut there. No big deal right except for I have to stop the build and order the parts. I can keep going on and on but I feel like a big cry baby. Hopefully I can keep flying where I do now without getting the boot.
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04-22-2014 03:11 PM  6 years ago
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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I became a member of the AMA last year just to support the cause but I did not renew this year.
The AMA is our lobbying group to the news, the FAA, state, and local government. Granted it's not a perfect organization, but it's all we have to protect us against whatever threats may try to shut down the hobby.
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04-22-2014 03:13 PM  6 years ago
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...I became a member of the AMA last year just to support the cause but I did not renew this year...
This might be why you got denied membership. AMA membership is required to fly at AMA sanctioned fields/clubs.

All the clubs I have been a member of require your AMA number on the membership application. If they researched your number and it came up expired or invalid, they will not grant you a membership.

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04-22-2014 03:34 PM  6 years ago
HeliNutAndy

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This might be why you got denied membership. AMA membership is required to fly at AMA sanctioned fields/clubs.
I understand that but I have not gotten that far where anyone has asked my number or my expired number.
The AMA is our lobbying group to the news, the FAA, state, and local government. Granted it's not a perfect organization, but it's all we have to protect us against whatever threats may try to shut down the hobby.
I am not trying to be difficult but why would I become a member or renew to support local clubs when it's those clubs are difficult to join or are guarded. I understand wanting to keep memberships low or even keeping strangers out but why would I fund that?
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04-22-2014 03:53 PM  6 years ago
kingmeow

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I joined the AMA for a few reasons even though I belong to ZERO clubs.

1. I get their monthly magazine as it covers all things flying and I dabble in planks also. Some people don't like the magazine and thinks it's a waste. Well, have you read the commercial ones out there? Articles and reviews that read like it's a one big advert for the advertisers.

2. I have insurance!

3. I am absolutely sure that the AMA is doing a TON of stuff that we don't know about on a daily basis to preserve our rights as R/C modelers and making sure that we are heard. and can fly in parks and school yards.

BTW, did I tell you I have insurance?
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04-22-2014 03:58 PM  6 years ago
Ronald Thomas

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You have secondary insurance. AMA kicks in after existing insurance is exhausted...Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!
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04-22-2014 04:05 PM  6 years ago
Pistol Pete

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Andy
FWIW...
You dont fund local clubs by joining AMA.

You will be funding an organization that has your best interest covered while dealing with govmt entities that do not.

I have been kicked out of a non sport related public park under the pretext of being a "nuisance". I had the place to myself and was flying an electric airplane...go figure.

I finally joined not one but two clubs.

You can start your own club if you put time and effort into it. AMA actually has a program to help as well. Soccer fields are also great flying locations for helis.

Bottom line...dont hold AMA liable for local clubs "politics" as they have absolutely no say in such.
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04-22-2014 04:09 PM  6 years ago
Ace Dude

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AMA insurance is primary for club officers.  
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04-22-2014 04:16 PM  6 years ago
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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AMA insurance is primary for club officers.
What if your AMA card says "Contest Director"? Does that get you any benefits as far as AMA insurance coverage goes?
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04-22-2014 05:25 PM  6 years ago
whoamis

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AMA insurance is primary for club officers.
Say what? Pls post documentation to that effect. It is inconsistent with a lot of information I've heard.

I'm all for indemnifying the club officers, but there have been a number of good stories where members are covered, even if they're not flying at a club.
oops, bounced it!
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04-22-2014 06:31 PM  6 years ago
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Like was said by many, rules depend a lot on the administration in charge of the park. The County where I live is very strict about its parks and bans RC except for designated areas (nothing that flies, only cars and boats). However, the city I live in is a lot more permissive and did not post specific regulations. However they require dogs to be held on leash. I feel quite fortunate...

Like was said as well: I do not take any chance with people or animals... If I feel that my safety standards are not met, I just land safely and stop flying.
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04-22-2014 06:49 PM  6 years ago
kingmeow

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You have secondary insurance. AMA kicks in after existing insurance is exhausted...
Correct. And their insurance is much better than most people's liability insurance that is attached to their homeowner's insurance.
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04-22-2014 06:57 PM  6 years ago
Santiago P

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What if your AMA card says "Contest Director"? Does that get you any benefits as far as AMA insurance coverage goes?
Same benefits, CD licence just means YOU will be the one doing all the paperwork if the accident happens on the event you conduct/sanctioned.

IOW, Welcome to volunteering...

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04-22-2014 07:17 PM  6 years ago
1helimech

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Just remember AMA is add on coverage, if your a home owner......If you have an incedent your home owners coverage may be canceled....as was mine...just saying know what's at risk when you fly boys..I dream of a better world, A world where a chicken's crossing a road IS NOT questioned
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04-22-2014 07:42 PM  6 years ago
Steve Graham

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The AMA, Local clubs, hobby websites, municipalities, unions etc etc etc are all collections of people that at one time anyway had common interests. This is a double edged sword because like any human endeavor they are at times characterized by both cooperation as well as antagonism. These things take a lot of time and maturity to foster. This has to happen on an ongoing basis lest the ever present specter of personalities that are more interested in themselves than the community are given room to spread the rot of hostility. Left too long and things can get so acrimonious that even good people begin to leave the community. OTOH sometimes all it takes is one or two people to not get discouraged and stay in the game just long enough to find what few like minded people are left to effect real and lasting change.

The current state of the RC community should neither be confused with or blamed for the harsh business environment that leaves ill performing companies littered across the landscape.
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