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04-24-2014 06:27 PM  6 years ago
RogerRabbit62

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Do not try scientific arguments.
They are not mainstream so they may not be true.
Science is a political comitee today.

@unclejane
I know, that's your problem. You celebrate ignorance rather than being concerned by it.
i gave you something which is not in the science textbooks.

The warming lead s to a massive reduction in heating energy in northern countries.

I know it is hard for you to believe, but i am one of those who will gain from a climate change.
So why the heck should i be against it?
It's not a hoax or a lie, no matter how many times you assert that it is. Sorry.
i will tell it again, it is a hoax and a lie.

We will agree to disagree on that subject.

In the middle centuries it was mainstream to scientifically teach that the earth is flat.
Scientists had thousands of proof for this.
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04-24-2014 06:38 PM  6 years ago
unclejane

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Do not try scientific arguments.
They are not mainstream so they may not be true.
Science is a political comitee today.
That's how I know you have no idea what you're talking about.
i gave you something which is not in the science textbooks.
That's why there's good reason to be skeptical of it.
So why the heck should i be against it?
global warming is not something you are "for" or "against". It's a fact - a fact is true whether you believe it or not, or are "for" or "against" it. Like 2+2=4. This equation is true regardless of whether you're a mathematician or over whatever objection you may have to it.
i will tell it again, it is a hoax and a lie.
We will agree to disagree on that subject.
The problem is, the evidence is on my side and it's against your side. It's not a matter of "agree to disagree" - you're just simply, demonstrably wrong.
In the middle centuries it was mainstream to scientifically teach that the earth is flat.
Scientists had thousands of proof for this.
Do you still believe the earth is flat? If not, why not?

Unlike your religious beliefs about climate change, science's catalog of facts about our world continues to be updated and is regularly improved.

Your world of asserted, faith-based ignorance is static and doesn't ever improve no matter how wrong it is, even as the body of knowledge about our world the rest of us gain does.

That's the difference.

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04-24-2014 07:24 PM  6 years ago
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when all else fails, he'll accuse you of being blinded by your religion. I figured it out a few days ago from another thread. He's an atheist and a flaming progressive (yet he'll openly defend the murdering muzzies). There will be NO open discussion with UJ.
He makes Z look like McCarthy....
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04-24-2014 08:34 PM  6 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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04-24-2014 09:03 PM  6 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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04-24-2014 09:11 PM  6 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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04-24-2014 09:18 PM  6 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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Marking Earth Day, MSNBC’s Hayes Furthers Fossil Fuel/Slavery Comparison

Here's the video:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/paul-b...esGlobalWarming

You cannot fix stupid.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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04-24-2014 09:22 PM  6 years ago
RogerRabbit62

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Dennis again a picture is worth more than a 1000 Words.
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04-24-2014 09:24 PM  6 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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04-25-2014 12:22 AM  6 years ago
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You are right the correlation is there and I don't deny that.
What amazes me is you don't even refute the fact that CO2 levels trail temperature changes yet still believe they cause the temperature changes.
So here is what is shown in most all graphs on the subject I have seen.
Here's where you got this tidbit, by the way:

https://www.skepticalscience.com/co...temperature.htm

This actually busts the myth you're trying to pull over on us.

But of course, you only posted the part that, when cited in isolation, said what you wanted it to say - a reporting fallacy known as confirmation bias. You of course ever so conveniently leave out the part that actually explains what's going on. And that explanation is the kiss of death for your "theory".

If you read further in the source (emphasis mine):

"This statement does not tell the whole story. The initial changes in temperature during this period are explained by changes in the Earth’s orbit around the sun, which affects the amount of seasonal sunlight reaching the Earth’s surface. In the case of warming, the lag between temperature and CO2 is explained as follows: as ocean temperatures rise, oceans release CO2 into the atmosphere. In turn, this release amplifies the warming trend, leading to yet more CO2 being released. In other words, increasing CO2 levels become both the cause and effect of further warming. This positive feedback is necessary to trigger the shifts between glacials and interglacials as the effect of orbital changes is too weak to cause such variation. Additional positive feedbacks which play an important role in this process include other greenhouse gases, and changes in ice sheet cover and vegetation patterns."

As you can see, the explanation is consistent with the Greenhouse Effect of CO2.

Sorry. You lose.

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04-25-2014 01:02 AM  6 years ago
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There will be NO open discussion with UJ.
Exactly the perfect reason to put him on ignore as I have. It is so much more peaceful
You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.
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04-25-2014 01:13 AM  6 years ago
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That's no Fun --

Got to keep him busy re- writing the United States Constitution / Declaration of Independence / Bill of Right's / True American Citizen Law's /and the Christian Ji Hadi !

Should worry about if he has been vaccinated for Measles / POX and Polio even Hard TB. Their all back
greyeagle
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04-25-2014 01:17 AM  6 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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There will be NO open discussion with UJ.

Exactly the perfect reason to put him on ignore as I have. It is so much more peaceful
Works fine for me.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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04-25-2014 01:34 AM  6 years ago
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I'm on his, so I guess I should do the same so I don't have to suffer his drivel....
..dddone...
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04-25-2014 02:04 AM  6 years ago
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Got to keep him busy re- writing the United States Constitution / Declaration of Independence / Bill of Right's / True American Citizen Law's /and the Christian Ji Hadi !
I think him and esco belong together, what a team!
You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.
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04-25-2014 02:42 AM  6 years ago
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Heeee! we all know why the right is calling the climate change a mist, it because it require spending to help combat the masses in out atmosphere and they're not ready to dole up anymore of their
TAX DOLLAR} you all prefer for us to die from toxic that fill our air or the turbulent disaster that that get double rowdy because of mankind Greed for corrosive energy "simply" because they fail to produce and use clean energy.
Escobar, If climate change is important, and 6 billion people lives are at stake, why must our tax dollars be involved? If it's so dire a situation, shouldn't all 6 billion people be doing something on their own to curb climate change, for free?
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04-25-2014 05:23 AM  6 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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04-25-2014 06:06 AM  6 years ago
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Unclejane, let's face the bitter, naked truth.
I know, truth sucks, especially for politicians, but this subject mixes politics into science and that never has led to anything good in history.

The more bold und capital you write the more ridiculous you are looked upon from the others.

Let me tell you the truth as i see it.
I might be wrong, but it is a very solid fact that if there are a lot of different possible explanations, the simplest is in most cases the most relevant.

The climate hoax was made up by greedy politicians to tax those (rich) driving big V8s with big (bad?) carbon footprint to finance their own big V8s to drive to their offices and events.

So it is a FACT that removing CO2 taxation would improve the worlds carbon footprint by reducing the greedys politicians budget.

But i have real doubts that this will happen in our lifespan.

A tax which is collected once by the politicians is as stubborn as a terminal desease.

The bottle is open and guess noone will be able to get the bad ginny back in the bottle.

There is another political FACT.

A worldwide ban of CO2 taxation would end the climate change immedeate.
The discussion about it and the "science" behind it would be as interresting as the old discussion how many angels can dance on the end of a pin.

If you'd look outside you window instead of looking onto this screen you'd see that mother earth is in perfect shape.
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04-25-2014 06:15 AM  6 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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A tax which is collected once by the politicians is as stubborn as a terminal desease.
And then, they will spend that tax money before they get it in their greedy little paws and still put the country further into debt.

The global warming, global cooling, climate change scheme is about three things;

Bigger Government, More Taxation and More regulation.

It has nothing what so ever to do with the climate. Its just an excellent source of revenue.

Period.
Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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04-25-2014 06:29 AM  6 years ago
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Dennis can't you find some statistical correlation between the debt of the USA and the climate change?

if you look at the debt curve it looks somehow like the hockey stick curve of the climate preachers of the ipcc.

So reducing the debt should reduce the climate change.
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