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06-05-2014 02:26 PM  4 years agoPost 361
RogerRabbit62

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your point is, that credit will Speed up economical growth.

There are some deep thinkings about that, that you might not take into account.

Read the economic papers from the BIZ (the central bank of cental Banks) who does exactly look into those issues.

Actually it is the same in a Family like it is in a economy.

You can have a better life by using credit, you can have a stronger economy by using credit.

But.... there comes the point where you have to payback credit.

Then you have less to spent or less economical growth.

The crisis we see now is the end of the Expansion cycle of the credit extremes which led to fannie mae and Freddy mac.

The subprimes where vehicles to stimulate growth on credit.

But there is at last nothing like a perpetuum mobile, even not in economics.

At the Moment the central Banks try to expand Money like crazy because the end of the credit Expansion cycle deflates the monetary Basis.

That is the same what happened in the 30th but this time they try not to allow a recession.

But fighting credit Expansion with credit Expansion is like paying credit Card debts with credit Cards.

It works- a while.

If you know this and how the government is acting, it is easy for you to get more rich.

Ordinary People suffer to the extremes.

Why?

There savings get less worth because of the negative interest rates and they do not participate in the value growth of the real estate and Shares as they do not have much of those.
Theire income is shrinking as the unemployment rate keeps high.

There is no easy way out of that.

In the last crisis it was WW II which finally led the US into a healthy economy again.
Hopefully this is not the way this time.

About our "poor" Country.

Noone, really noone can suffer hunger in Germany as there is a Minimum pay of approx 18.000,-$ per Person you get from welfare even if you never worked.
They pay for roomrent, heating, etc. You have 350Euro (500$) for Food and such + the appartment costs as Minimum you can Claim the state to pay for you.

If you earn less, then the state pays the difference to that amount.

If i look arround all new industrial Areas and housing Areas are build and the cars arround me are not really old (i do not know how much is financed).

If you look into the wealth list of the nations you have to understand that parts of our retirement System works on "Points" not on "$" or "Euro" and is not bilanced.
If you take those Points and convert them to Money i think that our average is better then the US average.

So what do you mean with a "poor Country"?

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06-05-2014 03:19 PM  4 years agoPost 362
fla heli boy

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look where he immigrated from (illegally).... enough said.
I love it when somebody immigrates (illegally) from a craphole and wants to make this place just like the craphole they just left.]
Why don't they just stay put and swim in their familiar cesspool???
Foreign libtards remind me of locusts.
You would be very familiar with this, living in Europe. I had a Swiss girlfriend and she used to cry about it everytime she got home from a visit.

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06-06-2014 08:01 AM  4 years agoPost 363
es1co2bar3

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Rabbit you have socialized system like that in your country
and sit here cursing Democrats, this's is same economic
principle the Teapublican is trying to uproot from poor people
here.

give people the maximum so they can lift them self out of Poverty.
If you work at Mc Donald you have to work 4 hour B4 you could
feed your family of 4, and 45 min to get your kids a happy meal a company who's profits rose beyond 5 billions.

on the Sub prime issue
60% of the world is Sub prime borrower and only 10% are Sub prime lender.
these're the folks that hold the key to world economy.

No matter what the bank have to give credit to Sub prime borrower.

Why your country is so successful all the ferrari, lambogini,
Bigati, Zonda, BMW, Benz, is ship here for sale and you guy
drive LADA, FIAT, mostly

I am so tired long day of drive

I like the socialist system in your country where folks get
a livable wage, I don't see how Italy and Greece fall under
talk later

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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06-06-2014 12:32 PM  4 years agoPost 364
fla heli boy

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I like the socialist system in your country where folks get
a livable wage, I don't see how Italy and Greece fall under
talk later
Because it's been proven over and over that socialism doesn't work you buffoon.
Do yourself a big favor...read Atlas Shrugged.....maybe then you'll figure it out...

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06-06-2014 12:39 PM  4 years agoPost 365
baby uh1

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Forced socialism is just another word for greed and is one of the great evils in the world! Billions have died as the result of all of the socialist experiments in government through history.
Why can't people learn from the world's past mistakes?

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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06-06-2014 03:42 PM  4 years agoPost 366
es1co2bar3

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Noone, really noone can suffer hunger in Germany as there is a Minimum pay of approx 18.000,-$ per Person you get from welfare even if you never worked. 
They pay for roomrent, heating, etc. You have 350Euro (500$) for Food and such + the appartment costs as Minimum you can Claim the state to pay for you.

If you earn less, then the state pays the difference to that amount.

If i look arround all new industrial Areas and housing Areas are build and the cars arround me are not really old (i do not know how much is financed).

If you look into the wealth list of the nations you have to understand that parts of our retirement System works on "Points" not on "$" or "Euro" and is not bilanced. 
If you take those Points and convert them to Money i think that our average is better then the US average.
Here conservative will never embrace this, I am kinda surprised that you hate socialized help and it keep people
from going hungry in your country.
Rent for a one bedroom here in a nice neighborhood not the dump the republican call state is $1500 to 2000 and the minimum folks have as livable wage is 12,000 yearly
and no Government Subsidiary to back up.

Just think how much they spend on war.......!

everything have to be done out of that for family of 4 tell
me conservative isn't F N naive.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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06-06-2014 03:47 PM  4 years agoPost 367
fla heli boy

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why do you think rent is 2 grand idiot???
I have a big 2 bedroom apartment in a nice neighborhood and I pay 600 a month.
You're so stupid you don't even know you're getting screwed....

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06-06-2014 10:53 PM  4 years agoPost 368
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We spend money on war so that you don't have to worry about your kids being blown up on their way to school by the taliban. It's the one thing that the government does well, at least so far. Obama doesn't seem to think that we want to remain safe from terrorists though.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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06-07-2014 02:06 AM  4 years agoPost 369
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Why don't they just stay put and swim in their familiar cesspool???
Oh!! Oh!! I know the answer to this one!!!!

Uh...let's see...I think I know....could it be that....

there's not enough free stuff to scarf up in the home country?? Maybe the home country isn't into caring and sharing??

Let's not forget: America Transformed: Now The Land of Caring and Sharing.

Hell yeah they wanna come here....like, duh, man!!!

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06-07-2014 02:41 AM  4 years agoPost 370
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Free illegal immigration, Because all of those rich democrats need their pools cleaned and their lawns manicured and they have to keep pretending that the black folks are still free.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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06-07-2014 07:07 AM  4 years agoPost 371
RogerRabbit62

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No one is Born to be a Minimum wager or a democrat.

No one is Born to work at McDonalds.

But the People do a lot of choices which lead to the Situation they are in.
It is the sum of all decisions they do.

Some cry "help me i am poor, i do not have a fair Chance" after not attending any education, some cry "help me i am poor, i do not have a fair Chance" after having the third Baby at 17 from the third guy.
The second ones are at least productive.

Others try to organize their own life.

You Claim that you want to drive less and earn more.

Look into the history and read about Jimmy Hoffa.

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06-07-2014 07:36 AM  4 years agoPost 372
Dennis (RIP)

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No one is Born to be a Minimum wager or a democrat.
When the numbers are called up, if you are born poor its likely you will remain poor. Sure, there are some that do pull themselves out if poverty. But, when the government makes it easy to stay there, and all your growing up years (nurturing years) are poverty, it's far more likely you will stay there.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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06-07-2014 08:48 AM  4 years agoPost 373
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Dennis, you should start a european division of your Tea party.

Everything starts with the valuing of education and money from the parents.

In the battlefield between spending useless and investing they are the ones who have to teach the childrn that they have to work (mow grass or whatever) to finance a bicycle,

TV shows them different to teach them using creditcards to found a lifestyle they cannot support.

We have a neighbors grandchild sometimes with us in the garden.
She was bad at school, and she told me that they do not have a single book at home.
She knows books only from school.

They put the children on front of the TV to gain their personal freedom.

Any questions?
Next generation poor on the way.

Will we help them with subsideries?
No.

Did not work in Africa, cant work here.

Give a man a fish to feed him for a day, teach him to fish to keep him self supported.

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06-07-2014 06:03 PM  4 years agoPost 374
es1co2bar3

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No one is Born to be a Minimum wager or a democrat.
or republican, I side with the party that’s not trying to regress people or state and they have a lot in comon with the
poor.
Everything starts with the valuing of education and money from the parents.
"Isn't this what your party is regressing by lampooning the
yearly budgets? I just love it when you guy shed light on youall hypocrisy.

I don't think you even understand how the poor come about and
why they remain that way

just take a look at how the republican try to regress those who's barely getting ahead while ingest adrenaline into those
who don't need an economic boosters because they got it made.
take Romney for instance.

Germany have a master plan with the socialized stuff the Conservatives miss the mark.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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06-07-2014 06:06 PM  4 years agoPost 375
Dennis (RIP)

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Germany have a master plan with the socialized stuff the Conservatives miss the mark.
Then move to Germany you idiot.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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06-07-2014 06:18 PM  4 years agoPost 376
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Amazing GRACE ! IF : He was In Germany ------ Ask a German
!!!!
Germany have a master plan with the socialized stuff the Conservatives miss the mark.
They would pull a ruler out : Measure the distance between his eye's :

Go: Zig /Zag / Zig

This one's a illiterate ingrate from Jamaica, part of the tribe of Choom Boy's, Can't even Tie a Coconut on a Stick !!

Check Him for Cricket's ! ZAG -ZIG !!!

Put some grasshopper's in your pants and stand over in that line !

THAT'S A ORDER ! Zig Zag !

See if he becomes in lightened - with cricket talk

Wak Him With a Stupid Stick !

greyeagle

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06-07-2014 06:59 PM  4 years agoPost 377
es1co2bar3

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Then move to Germany you idiot.
If minority didn't have under go the same protocol we have here I do move there,
no need to move from the fry pan to the raw fire Maybe Rabbittooths can tell us what it like for people of color there Other than what we see in the news.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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06-07-2014 07:17 PM  4 years agoPost 378
Dennis (RIP)

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If minority didn't have under go the same protocol we have here I do move there
Why should you?

You claim to make $100,00.00 a year here.

You claim to own a home in CA.
You claim to own a second home in TX.
You claim to have 5 to 7 cars all dressed up.
You claim to own a semi truck.

But yet, you still bitch about America.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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06-07-2014 07:37 PM  4 years agoPost 379
es1co2bar3

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"Oh ya my income isn't in the ranges of the like Mit Romney so
the conservatives political tax laws exempt those people in my income brackets. I outline it for you 2 day ago they
protect the capitalist from taxtation and the poor carry the tax burden. F n clever isn't it?

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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06-07-2014 07:49 PM  4 years agoPost 380
Dennis (RIP)

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"Oh ya my income isn't in the ranges of the like Mit Romney so
the conservatives political tax laws exempt those people in my income brackets. I outline it for you 2 day ago they
protect the capitalist from taxtation and the poor carry the tax burden. F n clever isn't it?
You claim to make $100,000.00 a year income. You are not exempt from paying taxes unless you are claiming 5 kids or more.

Besides, Mitt Romney probably pays more taxes in one year than you will ever pay in a lifetime if ever.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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