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04-14-2014 03:24 AM  4 years agoPost 1
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April 13, 2014

On Monday, BATFE issued a “special advisory” indicating the agency’s official position on 5.45×39 7N6 ammunition. The advisory states that “the ammunition is ‘armor piercing’ under [federal law] and is therefore not importable.” We previously reported on our efforts to determine BATFE’s official position on this issue.

Notably absent from the advisory is any mention of the “sporting purposes” exemption provided for in the federal armor piercing ammunition law. The law gives the Attorney General discretion to exempt certain projectiles from being considered armor piercing ammunition. This exemption already applies to 5.56×45 M855 and .30-06 M2AP ammunition. NRA has repeatedly encouraged BATFE to rule that projectiles originally made for rifles and any projectile not designed and intended to penetrate armor when fired from a handgun are exempt from the federal armor piercing ammunition law. Just last year, we sent comments to BATFE that explained how Congress intended for the armor piercing ammunition law to cover a very limited class of projectiles and provided BATFE with guidance on granting “sporting purposes” exemptions to projectiles.

NRA is also working with members of Congress to get more answers from BATFE on how the agency determines if a projectile is ”armor piercing ammunition.” The efforts include inquiries as to whether BATFE considers 7N6 ammunition, which has been widely used as an affordable alternative for target shooting and rifle training, a candidate for a “sporting purposes” exemption. Reps. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.), and Howard Coble (R-N.C.) have already sent a letter to BATFE Director B. Todd Jones encouraging him to act on other outstanding petitions for “sporting purposes” exemptions.

This article was posted: Sunday, April 13, 2014 at 9:45 am

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04-14-2014 01:05 PM  4 years agoPost 2
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the reason??? It's a relatively obscure caliber. There complaint is that it has a steel core. Well, most of the 5.56 ammo out there is steel core. This is just a way to start the process on other ammo. This is what they do. Go after the low hanging fruit and get people accustomed to losing their ammo. No ammo...no guns.

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04-14-2014 03:32 PM  4 years agoPost 3
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The main reason they are banning it is because someone made a pistol that can shoot that rifle caliber. So the ATF decided to ban it. At least that is what I hear from the firearm community.

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04-14-2014 03:50 PM  4 years agoPost 4
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wrong.... you do know they make AR-15 pistols right???
Most FNL pistols are rifle caliber as well.
They're banning it because 99% of that ammo is Russian ammo, hence it's less than 1/2 the price of 5.56/223. They want cheap ammo gone. Also, it's not a common round, so going after that will raise fewer eyebrows.
It's the MO of the government to bite off small pieces when it comes to guns. That's why we can't let them get any kind of toehold.

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04-14-2014 05:22 PM  4 years agoPost 5
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wrong.... you do know they make AR-15 pistols right???
Most FNL pistols are rifle caliber as well.
When ATF tested the 7N6 samples provided by CBP, they were found to contain a steel core. ATF’s analysis also concluded that the ammunition could be used in a commercially available handgun, the Fabryka Bronie Radom, Model Onyks 89S, 5.45x39 caliber semi-automatic pistol, which was approved for importation into the United States in November 2011. Accordingly, the ammunition is “armor piercing” under the section 921(a)(17)(B)(i) and is therefore not importable. ATF’s determination applies only to the Russian-made 7N6 ammunition analyzed, not to all 5.45x39 ammunition. Ammunition of that caliber using projectiles without a steel core would have to be independently examined to determine their importability.

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04-14-2014 08:41 PM  4 years agoPost 6
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Spoken like a true Federalist.Im pretty sure you probably have a warm and fuzzy explanation as to why something that is not classified as "armor piercing" by the military is somehow classified as the same when in the hands of civilians?
Even if it is so exactly how does this become acceptable as being in compliance with "shall not be infringed"?

Dont bother answering.Im fairly sure at this point in time the debate is not going to be settled with words.Thats the sad part.

I could make several analogies to agriculture and how all of this parallels sewing and reaping but if you havent been there and done that its likely to go in one ear and out the other as well.Not worth the time.

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04-14-2014 10:49 PM  4 years agoPost 7
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Im pretty sure you probably have a warm and fuzzy explanation as to why something that is not classified as "armor piercing" by the military is somehow classified as the same when in the hands of civilians?
Even if it is so exactly how does this become acceptable as being in compliance with "shall not be infringed"?

Dont bother answering.Im fairly sure at this point in time the debate is not going to be settled with words.Thats the sad part.
I really hope your not talking to me. What I posted was straight off a ATF report.

And as a gun owner and incredibly strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment, you would be barking up the wrong tree, heck your not even in the right forest.

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04-15-2014 01:11 PM  4 years agoPost 8
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When ATF tested the 7N6 samples provided by CBP, they were found to contain a steel core.
Dude.....all of my 5.56 ammo has a steel core. An AR-15 PISTOL shoots the same ammo. Are you sitting there toking with esco???

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04-15-2014 03:45 PM  4 years agoPost 9
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Dude.....all of my 5.56 ammo has a steel core. An AR-15 PISTOL shoots the same ammo. Are you sitting there toking with esco???
I am only posting what the ATF has said. Do not attack me, I am just the messenger. Call the ATF and bitch at them.

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