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04-10-2014 09:28 PM  5 years ago
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Bipenut

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Sport vs 3d pilots?
Hello,
First off I am new to posting in this forum but I have been "lurking" for a number of months now as I find this forum to be quite informative. A little about me, I have been flying R/C airplanes for approx. 27 years. Line control for many years before that. Back in the early years I thought I may try helicopters and got a couple 30 sized helis, managed to hover them and then started forward flight, long story short, one had a mishap and main rotor hit the tail boom and spit pieces for what seemed to be miles. I boxed what I had left and sold them swearing never to touch them again..... Until last fall, a friend of mine put a transmitter in my hand and said "Just give it a little try" That was it, now I'm hooked and now have excitement and the blood is pumping again when I fly, great feeling! Last weekend I did my first flip with a 500 trex and didn't crash! Anyway my question is this: It seems that most people that get into helicopters today are aspiring 3d pilots, I am not one of those, I seem to be a minority. I would like to do a flip, loop, roll, and just generally fly around. Am I really that out of touch? Here in Grand Coulee Wa., we don't have a club, just a group of us get together on a friend of ours property who has a private airstrip and we have fun flying planes. I am the only one with heli's. It scared them at first but I showed them that I am practicing every bit of safety as possible and they have calmed down. So are there many sport flyers? Thanks for your time
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04-10-2014 09:42 PM  5 years ago
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There are probably more sport pilots than serious 3D pilots. you just never hear anything about them. We fly, we have fun, we crash, and at the end of the flying session if we are happy that's all that matters. Nothing to make headlines in a forum or a magazine.

Glad you are flying Helicopters again. I have had many hobbies over the years from racing motorcycles to flying. This is my all time favorite hobby.
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04-10-2014 09:56 PM  5 years ago
Retired2011

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Out of all of the guys I fly with, in two different clubs, there are only a couple of true 3d pilots, and I really don't think anyone else really even desires to be.
By far, the most popular around here is the more relaxed lower headspeed "sport" flying you described.
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04-10-2014 10:03 PM  5 years ago
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The fun of Sport flying
I have drifted into and out of the hobby over the years for different reasons. I am a sport pilot. I think the ability the 3D pilots have developed is incredibly cool but it just isn't for me. Making a heli bounce back and forth in a 20 foot circle like a pingpong ball just doesn't hold interest for me. I enjoy watching 3D flight for a few minutes at a time but for me the real fun is enjoying the open sky to put my heli through loops rolls and flips while flying different large circuits. The cool thing about this hobby is there is the opportunity for people to do what they like and dig it in their own way.
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04-10-2014 10:12 PM  5 years ago
Bipenut

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Ok great! Thank you for your replies. I guess I have been reading too many posts of people who do try to fly 3d. I feel isolated here without a "mentor" to help me. All of what I have learned has been by way of reading forums and watching videos on youtube. Learning how to fly helicopters has been fun and trying, both at times! I am using a flight sim to help with the coordination but it doesn't replace experience out in the field.
Thank you again!!
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04-10-2014 10:41 PM  5 years ago
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Look into F3C, most pilots want to do something along these lines and should they achieve many things f3c the natural progression would be to 3d.
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04-10-2014 11:17 PM  5 years ago
unclejane

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I'm one of probably only a handful who fly heli's FPV. At least I only know one or two others who are deranged enough to try that. So if you feel left out, I'm totally and completely and utterly fringe lol...

But yes the 3D craze is probably the biggest craze in helis, which is obvious from the way the designs are going. More and more hideous overpowering and emphasis on maneuverability.

Still there's lots of pilots who do other types of flying, even with the equipment being specialized for 3D. Even when I flew line-of-sight I was a basic sport pilot. I never got past basic circuits and autos tho so I got kind of bored with it (until I discovered FPV).

But many folks don't get bored and have a great time as just general pilots.

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04-10-2014 11:28 PM  5 years ago
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My flying style can best be described as "Old Fart". I try to fly in as scale a manner as possible. That is leading me into scale helis. I have an Apache that flies great. I'm sorting out a MD500E project. The pod and boom airframe (Align 450SA) probably has close to 1,000 flights on it and has been completely reliable. The only things I've worn out were all the servos, main gear and pinion, and the tail drive belt. Installing these mechanics into the MD500E resulted in an evil monster. But that's the fun and challenge of building, i.e., figuring out what is causing the issues and arriving at solutionsGerry Cullan,
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04-10-2014 11:34 PM  5 years ago
Retired2011

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So if you feel left out, I'm totally and completely and utterly fringe lol...
Yes you are!


But so am I!

After I become a more accomplished pilot, I might give it a try.
I love the feeling of flying, I don't mean in an airplane, I mean like skydiving.
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04-10-2014 11:50 PM  5 years ago
jackp332

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Only smooth sport/scale flying here. I totally respect the 3d guys and the level of skill it must take, however it's just not my thing
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04-11-2014 12:11 AM  5 years ago
FARRL

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Sport flying is much easier to learn. Most people don't want to put enough time and money into learning 3D. Even if they wanted to fly like that.
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04-11-2014 01:18 AM  5 years ago
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I like to fly to how I feel at the time , I can do smooth scale or hard 3D . I started with the basics and enjoy having the total controll to do anything I want . I find a lot of pilots get to the safe take off and landing then just start hammering the sticks . I think this is just reacting instead of controlling . Most of your top pilots will tell you they always go back to the basics to keep skill level up .I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)
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04-11-2014 02:47 AM  5 years ago
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3d is an art
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04-11-2014 04:39 AM  5 years ago
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Out of all of the guys I fly with, in two different clubs, there are only a couple of true 3d pilots, and I really don't think anyone else really even desires to be
This's why the quadcopter/FPV birth rate are so high for some guys
cant think past the 2 stick on the radio when they lost orientation.
I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,
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04-11-2014 01:49 PM  5 years ago
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Just fly how you want and have fun with it. This is a way to relax and pass the time, if you feel happy sport flying, great. I'm pretty much just at that point as well, although I will fly harder at times, it doesn't relax me and give as much enjoyment as smooth big air flying.Nick Crego

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04-11-2014 02:23 PM  5 years ago
unclejane

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After I become a more accomplished pilot, I might give it a try.
I love the feeling of flying, I don't mean in an airplane, I mean like skydiving.
Well all my fullscale time is all in planks, so I have no heli time at all. That's what intrigued me about heli FPV; I wanted to see what flying helis from the "inside" was like.

I'd start with a multirotor first tho, one with a good flight controller with GPS in it to start with. FPV in a heli is pretty shocking at first because of the speed and just the way they handle - they can really get away from you in an instant.

But it's truly the only way to fly helis for me now. And I have to learn only one orientation, lol.

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04-11-2014 02:37 PM  5 years ago
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man its nice to read this, I'm the same way. way back when I got started you really focused on your hovering skills, learning nose in and just good solid hovering skills. the 3D skills blows me away, its above my pay skills
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04-11-2014 03:09 PM  5 years ago
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[quote] I'd start with a multirotor first tho, one with a good flight controller with GPS in it to start with. FPV

[Cheater take the GPS off for the HELI wont be that stable after all, you'll not be enthuse about the unfaithful HELI constant drift in any direction.
I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,
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04-11-2014 03:40 PM  5 years ago
petercp4e

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Just fly how you want and have fun with it.
Having fun is what it's all about. The beauty of flying and being involved with this hobby is that you will never stop learning. The more you learn and know, the more you will realize what you don't know. Accepting the challenge and sticking to it is all that matters. As time goes on you will surprise yourself with the skills that you acquire.
Good luck!!!
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04-11-2014 04:57 PM  5 years ago
MartyH

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I think the ability the 3D pilots have developed is incredibly cool but it just isn't for me. Making a heli bounce back and forth in a 20 foot circle like a pingpong ball just doesn't hold interest for me. The cool thing about this hobby is there is the opportunity for people to do what they like and dig it in their own way.
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You have it nailed Scott. Unfortunately, I have run into a number of 3D guys who tend to look down upon any flying style other than 3D.
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