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04-09-2014 11:56 PM  4 years agoPost 1
stang281472

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Very mature post. Post nonsense and then close the thread so can't get real truth from other people. Grow up already man. Seriously.

Tom

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04-10-2014 02:37 AM  4 years agoPost 2
Rockohaulic

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Come on Tom. You are better than that.

I got all the facts. I've spoken directly with one of your dealers.

One of your overseas dealers is so beyond frustrated with Avant, he has gone to his government to see if he can get any action out of Avant.

Do you want me to go on with any more?

Don't talk about stuff that I know all the facts on.

Don't be unethical. You are better than that.

I thought you wanted me out of the Avant forum so bad. Show me.......

Saturday morning I flew my helicopter in my pajamas
How it got in my pajamas I'll never know

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04-10-2014 03:07 AM  4 years agoPost 3
doug p

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Rock just go back under your bridge and troll for carp BY BY

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04-10-2014 03:41 AM  4 years agoPost 4
Rockohaulic

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Rock just go back under your bridge and troll for carp BY BY
First off it's "bye bye". You should use correct spelling when telling someone off.

Second - I want to, I really do. However, Tom won't let me.

He makes false accusations that of course I am entitled to defend. I'm sure you can see that if you have your eyes open.

If you guys quit bugging me - I'm out of here.

You guys remind me of a movie title - Eyes Wide Shut.

Saturday morning I flew my helicopter in my pajamas
How it got in my pajamas I'll never know

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04-10-2014 09:30 AM  4 years agoPost 5
stang281472

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Rockohaulic
I point out facts about what you are doing and then you say come on Tom you are better than that? I am sure that in speaking to our overseas dealer (why would you be doing that exactly? To see when your kit is coming right? No wouldn't be that. Hmmm maybe to try the same thing you are trying here? Feeding your twisted version of "facts" to him because having a dealer pissed off furthers your agenda? Yep my eyes are wide open)
he told you the real reason he started his posts.

The truth is the dealer was getting scared reading the negative untrue BS that trolls such as yourself keep posting which you conveniently twist to fit your agenda. That is what started that whole thing. But once he saw the kits are starting to ship he apologized to the company and asked to stay a dealer.

Notice I didn't close my thread You are still here because you made your feeble attempt to get a last dig at the company and closed your thread right away so that people who know your post was BS could not respond and got called out on it. Peoples eyes are wide open rock , no worries. They can clearly see the real reason behind the bs you post.

Tom

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04-10-2014 09:41 AM  4 years agoPost 6
dan-uk

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I find it worrying when somebody opens a thread just to bitch about someone!

As a result, I too have decided to cancel my preorder.

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04-10-2014 10:43 AM  4 years agoPost 7
kris L

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I find it worrying when somebody opens a thread just to bitch about someone!
As a result, I too have decided to cancel my preorder.
Then it is your loss! You have succumbed to the BS! Don't listen to this troll. - Kris

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04-10-2014 10:47 AM  4 years agoPost 8
kris L

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Second - I want to, I really do. However, Tom won't let me.
Why couldn't you have gone quietly? Had to take one last cheap shot? As the old saying goes Rock; DON'T GO AWAY MAD, JUST GO AWAY!

Kris

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04-10-2014 11:43 AM  4 years agoPost 9
stang281472

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Dan Uk
I am sorry you feel that way but guess you then feel it is acceptable for him to repeatedly slander the company's name and it should go unanswered? I opened this thread because he made a deliberate cheap shot post and then closed the thread so I could not reply. He isn't doing this to look out for anyone. He has a personal vendetta for some reason and takes every single chance to drag Avant through the mud. I called him out because of his antics. If that is reason for you to cancel your preorder a day before it ships then I am sorry.

Tom

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04-10-2014 12:26 PM  4 years agoPost 10
dan-uk

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I don't think "slander" is necessarily a good choice of words to describe his comments, as what he is saying is actually true!

Anyway, I am looking forward to some constructive comments from real customers. Let's hope we can still hear the good and the bad on this forum.

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04-10-2014 12:55 PM  4 years agoPost 11
stang281472

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I will give you that. Slander is a little much but it is pretty darn close. There is good and bad and that's fine. The problem I have is it's like his personal mission to take a delay and turn it into all this other nonsense. I have dealt with him on HF also. He has no interest in the machine and yet continues to troll the forum just to stir up problems and see who he can get on his side. He twists facts to make it appear alot worse than it is. His post about 37 delays is one example. Try 5. His post about blades bolt issue we reps found is another. He came here like he got inside info and was here megaphone in hand but it was put out by Avant themselves since they don't hide anything. His post about the dealer is another. He only tells key parts of the story to bait you guys. His new game is to post something then quickly close the thread so that people who know the true story can't respond and he gets the final word. It's getting really old really fast.

Tom

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04-10-2014 01:27 PM  4 years agoPost 12
ssmith512

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COOL!! Another Avant thread where I can ask for nitro pics. Why is Avant treating the nitro customers as the red headed step children of rc helicopters?

Steve

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04-10-2014 01:31 PM  4 years agoPost 13
stang281472

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I am working on getting them from factory for you.

Tom

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04-10-2014 01:38 PM  4 years agoPost 14
ssmith512

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I am working on getting them from factory for you.
Ya ya I know. Same old song and dance. Been asking for pics since January. Ever since the electric pics were out. Like I said, be nice if Avant had a little more interest in wowing the nitro customers.

Steve

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04-10-2014 03:11 PM  4 years agoPost 15
stang281472

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They do but they have been focusing on getting kits released. I am going to contact owner about this tonight.

Tom

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04-10-2014 03:40 PM  4 years agoPost 16
rich afflerback

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You know with all the crap going on and with the faithful service of my aurora I just preordered a mostro electric with DFC head. Does anyone have a gear ratio so I can find a motor that will give me about 1750 on the head where I like to fly.

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04-10-2014 04:29 PM  4 years agoPost 17
Rockohaulic

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I find it worrying when somebody opens a thread just to bitch about someone!
As a result, I too have decided to cancel my preorder.
Ah - someone's eyes have opened.
I don't think "slander" is necessarily a good choice of words to describe his comments, as what he is saying is actually true!
Thanks for that.

These "politicians" try to sell us the "perfect" heli nonsense, deliver false promises, then twist our words to suit their own agenda.

And if they would just let me go away - I will.

Tom, stop bringing my name up. I shall go away for you.

EDIT. PS:
I am sure that in speaking to our overseas dealer (why would you be doing that exactly? To see when your kit is coming right? No wouldn't be that. Hmmm maybe to try the same thing you are trying here? Feeding your twisted version of "facts" to him because having a dealer pissed off furthers your agenda? Yep my eyes are wide open)
he told you the real reason he started his posts.
Hmmm, Tom I wish you would stop twisting things like that.......

Actually he contacted me.

He simply wanted help.

He was looking for help on what he could do to deal with his situation with Avant. He thought I might have some advice since I live in the US.

I'm sure he contacted others here in the US. He is very frustrated with the situation.

Saturday morning I flew my helicopter in my pajamas
How it got in my pajamas I'll never know

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04-10-2014 04:44 PM  4 years agoPost 18
stang281472

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Main Gear is 57T
Pinion is 17T
Pinion to main gear ratio is 3.35

Main Belt Pulley is 61T
Default Motor Pulley is 20T
Motor to main pulley default ratio is: 3.05

Effective Motor to Main blades ratio with 20T is: 10.23 ( Default )
Effective Motor to Main blades ratio with 21T is: 9.74

Tail gear ratio with 26T is: 4.77 Default (Hard 3D high head speeds)
Tail gear ratio with 25T is: 4.96 (Recommended for lower head speeds and shorter tail blades)

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04-10-2014 05:27 PM  4 years agoPost 19
stang281472

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Rock
As you well know I had already reached out to him and handled that problem and got him in contact with the company etc.

You keep saying you wouldn't come back if I don't mention you anymore. Let's test that.

Tom

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04-10-2014 05:56 PM  4 years agoPost 20
rich afflerback

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Thanks for the answer with the gear ratio. Its a shame I ordered so late I'll probably miss out on the first batch

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