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04-08-2014 04:42 PM  4 years agoPost 1
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Fort Hood, Gun-Free Zones and Progressive Insanity

By Matt Barber April 8, 2014

They say that lightning never strikes twice in the same place. Not true. It does if you stand high atop a cliff’s edge waving a lightning rod above your head during a thunderstorm. In fact, in the unlikely event you survive the first strike, it’ll keep right on striking until you climb down.

So-called “gun-free zones” are lightning rods for mass murder. It’s time we climbed down from the cliff’s edge.

America mourns yet another needless and preventable mass shooting at Fort Hood, Texas. When will gun-grabbing liberals learn?

In a blunt and provocatively titled, though well-reasoned post, submitted shortly after Wednesday’s shooting, Gateway Pundit’s Jim Hoft charged: “Obama Is Responsible for Latest Fort Hood Murders – Still a Gun-Free Zone.”

Wrote Hoft:

“In 2009 Islamist killer Nidal Malik Hasan, a U.S. Army major and psychiatrist, fatally shot 13 people and injured more than 30 others at Fort Hood, Texas. Fort Hood was a gun-free zone.

“Hasan reportedly screamed, ‘Allahu Akbar!’ as he committed his mass murder. …

“Barack Obama termed this Islamic terrorist attack ‘workplace violence.’ Complete lunacy.

“After the first mass killing nothing changed. Fort Hood is still a gun-free zone. President Bill Clinton’s gun-free policies are still in place.

“Today there was another mass shooting at Fort Hood. Soldiers were told to take cover and hide like cowards as a crazed gunman shot at least 14 Americans on base. The shooter, Ivan Lopez, then shot himself in the head.

“These deaths are the result of failed policies. These deaths are the result of a dangerous ‘gun free zone’ policy.

“The Obama administration is responsible for this mass shooting. They witnessed this before. They didn’t learn a thing. Gun-free zones are death zones,” concluded Hoft.

Of course, no one but Ivan Lopez is responsible for his own horrific crimes. Still, this Obama administration is likewise responsible for its own criminally horrific incompetence.

By maintaining his demonstrably failed “gun-free zone” policy at Fort Hood (and anywhere for that matter), Obama may as well have beckoned: “Hey, would-be mass murderers, we’ve still got some unarmed soldiers here. Come and finish ‘em off!”

This president is undeniably culpable. His reckless insistence upon preserving this obtuse, liberal – but I repeat myself – gun-grabbing policy rendered defenseless, once again, the fine servicemen and women of Fort Hood. It kept in place the same mass-murder-rich environment in which Nidal Malik Hasan committed the first Fort Hood “fish-in-a-barrel” soldier hunt.

And the only people surprised are you gun-control nutters.

Here’s the thing about liberalism, which is really cultural Marxism, euphemistically tagged “progressivism”: It’s never worked and it never will. It can’t. It’s a material impossibility. “Progressivism” can no more work than can one answer a nonsense question like, “How big is blue?” As with all similar such humanistic efforts to achieve a man-made earthly utopia, “progressivism” is a hopeless non-starter.

Why? Because “progressivism” is utterly detached from reality. There’s truth, and then there’s “progressivism.” Central to every single “progressive” policy, without exception, is the fatally flawed denial of the existence of sin – of man’s fallen nature. There’s also a stupidly stubborn refusal to acknowledge the reality of moral absolutes. “Progressivism” is built upon a utopian, relativist house of cards; and when that house comes crashing down, the results are often deadly.

This past Wednesday America witnessed liberalism’s deadly results first hand. A public policy that intentionally disarms American citizens – much less American soldiers – is a policy that creates a pond full of sitting ducks; this, whether we have a terrorist behind the trigger, or a government with designs on tyranny.

Notice a trend here? What do Sandy Hook Elementary, Aurora, Colorado’s Century 16 theater, Columbine High, Fort Hood No. 1 and Fort Hood No. 2 all have in common? They’re all “gun-free zones.”

Oh, if only, rather than “gun-free zone” signs, each of these terror Ground Zeros had had a sign reading: “Staff heavily armed and trained. Any attempts to harm those herein will be met with deadly force.”

Might some of those beautiful souls have still died before one or more well-armed good guys could take out the well-armed bad guys? Perhaps. But how many precious lives could have been saved?

Albert Einstein famously quipped that the definition of “insanity” is “doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” In that sense, “progressives” are insane.

Or, if not exactly insane, they’re certainly no Einsteins.

I’ll admit that many “progressives” are generally well-meaning and decent people. I even have a handful of “progressive” friends who’ve yet to see the light. I love ‘em, but they still want what they can’t have, at least not until that glorious last trumpet sounds.

They want heaven on earth.

It’s not for lack of sincerity that “progressives” are destroying America and putting lives at risk.

It’s for failure to grasp reality.

http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/20...y/?subscriber=1

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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04-08-2014 04:48 PM  4 years agoPost 2
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Dennis
Whoa! It's a work place violence! Gun Free zones are designed to keep guns out! We liberals and Obama supporters know better than you all!

Shame on you Dennis! We are going to educate your children, that alternative lifestyle is proper and wholesome!

Serious note: That gun man had free movement until the military police showed up!

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04-08-2014 06:42 PM  4 years agoPost 3
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If the Military was equipped with Eric Holders New Cyber E- Gun, or in the Civilian places like Sandy Hook this all could have been prevented.

Just push 911 and twitter them right in the face-time while doing the twerk.

Can't wait for order's to the Nation's Defense : Call the twit phone.

YEll at EM !! well ---- YELL LOUDER !!

GEt Em with the WIkkie !!! Toss a SIlver FOX Coin or the Golden Polar BEar Coin at Em

If they had the New CYBER DEfence Twit : RULER OMAMBA JUST SEND"S a signal: It turn's OFF - you don't have OBAMA CARE and didn't VOTE.

You been twittered over Free Cheese - Put your CHili Dog on Credit

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04-08-2014 07:19 PM  4 years agoPost 4
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What alot of people don't understand is that you have to know what life is like on a military base. I was stationed here at Fort Hood and was conducting soldier training with a fellow NCO accross the street from Howze Theater when Hasan started shooting people at the SRP center next door.

Now imagine if you allowed ALL soldiers to carry thier weapons and keep them on thier person for defense in case this happens a third time...consider that alot of these soldiers are imature teenagers and alot of them under the age of 25 living in the barracks...have any of you here ever had to deal with these kids on a weekend? I have, alot like an out of control frat party with heavy drinking...now you want them to have guns too? no thanks! I would not want to be the next NCO walking into a bunch of drunk out of control soldiers alone all with access to a gun...I've spent too many nights dealing with them and thier imaturity...I even had to chase one down running through fort hood drunk off his a$$ in underwear, punching and kicking not only me but the MPs...and then chiken$hit MPs made me take him back to my HQ instead of arresting the a-hole, and this happened 1 week before the last deployment I went on...I had to deal with that $hitbag during the tour too.

You want to make "gun free" zones safe put more guards up period and kick out those that have mental issues before they joined up and have a zero tolerance policy for out of control behavior at all levels. If they have a drug dependancy to maintain thier mental capacity they also have no business in the military.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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04-08-2014 07:32 PM  4 years agoPost 5
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Hilarious when the Civil Police are called to come rescue the military.

Called : PRODUCT

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04-08-2014 08:10 PM  4 years agoPost 6
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Fort Hood could do with you as a peacekeeper Grey,You always make sense

Team- unbiased opinion.K.I.S.S principle upheld here

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04-08-2014 08:57 PM  4 years agoPost 7
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We haven't seen anything yet ------------The Huh's -Wha's and Da'hs
Purposefully intention of the US OBAMA Intelligence Dept:

Over 13 year's of continually lowering standard's to join
{ Then to Educate } to see if they can find a purpose duty

Can't obtain any fruit-full employment do to lack of skill set's / basic H.S.education or obtain Bill Clinton's Social Security Mental or Physical disability requirement's to live off welfare.

Absolute shameful dis honor to those Saint's that give & will give willingly -the OATH and Honor's - to protect the Nation.

Should of been sorted long before they stuck a fork in their mouth or got a free pair of shoe's.

To hear the stories it's like a plaque

Give them their side arm's and make it a requirement when in uniform - PART of IT.

The Idiot's will sort themselves out quick - The only mechanical device without a brain that will. It's the Military

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04-08-2014 09:22 PM  4 years agoPost 8
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Lack of education Grey,read this!
http://rt.com/usa/ukraine-location-...ntion-poll-025/

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04-08-2014 09:36 PM  4 years agoPost 9
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For those that don,t

Team- unbiased opinion.K.I.S.S principle upheld here

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04-09-2014 12:15 AM  4 years agoPost 10
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alot like an out of control frat party with heavy drinking
Not sure of the actual statistics, but I have heard on more than one occasion that our military loses more people as a result of alcohol related incidents than they do in combat. My brother-in-law is on his 17th year, and he has seen so many young kids killed while off base from alcohol related accidents.

The world is yours!

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04-09-2014 01:14 AM  4 years agoPost 11
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its not always alcohol related...but more stupidity related...

I escorted one soldiers body back to his home town of Omaha NE...

He was on some heavy prescription meds...we found him dead, still sitting in his chair, holding his game controller and one empty bottle of liquor to his side...

they just don't listen...

a month doesnt pass that a soldier isn't killed or seriously injured in a motorcycle accident as a result of high speed on a crotch rocket. They can't even drive anymore...I have to double check everytime at an intersection here in town that the a-hole crossing my path isn't running a red light OR worse yet think that the center turn only signal is also thier green light to just go strait though...I had one dumb a$$ T-bone my neighbor pulling out of his garage right in front of my house, not 20 yards after he ran a stop sign...I have even had them cross over three lanes at an intersection from the far right lane then make a left cutting everybody off... alot of the new soldiers just have too many issues and are not being checked... and this whole thing is the end result...wackos.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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04-09-2014 01:29 AM  4 years agoPost 12
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So, I guess that the NCOs and Officers aren't smart enough/trustworthy enough to be armed on base? Sad.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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04-09-2014 01:35 AM  4 years agoPost 13
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And the icing on the cake is the NOTAMS/TFR because this fool is coming to town. Not for the soldiers, but for the fund raiser. This sorry excuse for a man makes me sick.

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04-09-2014 03:33 AM  4 years agoPost 14
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fwiw...

What's a TFR....?

BC

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04-09-2014 03:39 AM  4 years agoPost 15
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What have they removed on a wholesale bases as a method to defeat :

YOU GET ONE GUESS : From Active theater- to ON Base-

VIRTUALLY illegal : THEY REMOVED THEM

Absolutely clueless - Then we wonder why the un prepared go into theater and the wreckage that comes home with out the support.

Then the STUPID QUESTION"S from those responsible ---whom actually should be held fully accountable for being Politically Uber Liberal Correct.

Is it working ???

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04-09-2014 04:04 AM  4 years agoPost 16
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So, I guess that the NCOs and Officers aren't smart enough/trustworthy enough to be armed on base?
yup, one of the top reasons I got out...

the higher the rank the worse the offending...

We had the BASE Generals right hand man, the highest ranking NCO on fort hood arrested DWI a few years ago...he tried to play it off on another soldier that had the same last name, when the city printed his full name in the paper, he quiety retired...but before that he busted every other lower ranking enlisted for doing the same crap he eventually got busted for....

We have literally forged PT tests and rifle range tests of high ranking officers and enlisted and been told to shut up...

I remember my first tour, we had a SFC busted for being asleep at the front gate, they put him in charge of the wash rack for the remainder of the tour...and he still came home and was awarded with a bronze star and combat action badge.

I lost count of how many officers accidentally discharged thier pistols into the clearing barrel at the Dfac on my second tour, and nothing happened to them...but the rest of us, well that was an article 15...

the corruption and politics have destroyed the Armed services...and its not going to change.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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04-09-2014 04:09 AM  4 years agoPost 17
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the corruption and politics have destroyed the Armed services...and its not going to change.
That might depend on who is in charge.

Present day leaders in particular.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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04-09-2014 12:29 PM  4 years agoPost 18
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By the time the liberals are done, the Marines will be armed with whistles

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04-09-2014 01:48 PM  4 years agoPost 19
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Wait till the Storm's of Adversity :
He does not have to wait for re- election :
2 term's are over in 2016.

But in NOV. - Congress: The House and Senate flip over to Fundamental Conservatives to try to unwind the dried bowel of spaghetti and re- establish the Constitution and LAW at all level with enforcement.

But if a National Crisis Arises he can enact Executive Special Privileged to HIMSELF : Especially if it has been pre- approved.

2 - MORE YEar's besides the current 8 in play ; buy's TIME

Like the play's you see taking place in the Administration and LAW from Fast and Furious to IRS to Bengazie ect. The original 7 phoney scandal's that we have quit counting

Believe Roosevelt did it : Do to a election cycle that fell in the middle of WWII. But their was no corruption just the attack on PEarl Harbor.

HAve to pull down a AMerican History Book : To actually refine the detail what occurred - Stuff we should of learned in School.

Believe Roosevelt died in term of Presidency : American's where in Europe helping others

Country had a different beliefs and views on American Nationalism or patriotism at the time.

From the END of WWII or approx 1945, then KOREA started in the Early 1950's. 1st wave was 70,000 second wave was around 200,000, they kept 1/2. Then into the Cuban Missile Crises

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04-09-2014 02:45 PM  4 years agoPost 20
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good stuff RM. My son jumped into the AF out of high school and signed for 6 years. I asked him "you sure you don't want to do just 4???" He signed for the extra 2 because of what he was going in for, plus a pay grade bump. His school was 2 years and as soon as he went overseas, he was bitching about how much he hated it for every reason you listed. He walked after 6, got an almost 6 figure job and never looked back. 5 years later he still bitches about his time. Though I do have to remind him that this time in, created his career now.

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