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| Dennis (RIP)
rrApprentice Oregon |
Does that mean that you recognize that He does exist?What makes you think that? Are you going to produce a quote from me or not? |
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| unclejane
rrElite Veteran santa fe, NM, USA |
Are you going to answer my question? - you can't produce a quote from me where I said "the Christian god does not exist" - you can't answer the question "what is the 'opinion without evidence' of athiesm". - you cannot show how "Faith" qualifies as evidence.You can, of course, produce a quote and answer the questions; else, you lose.LS |
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| helicopter
rrApprentice Omaha, Nebraska |
here is what the King James says:Hebrews 11:1 & 611 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.I have a theory. It came to my mind when I met God."Faith is God's precious gift to the believer in giving us Himself - without disturbing another wonderful gift, that of Free Moral Agency." |
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| unclejane
rrElite Veteran santa fe, NM, USA |
Hebrews 11:1 & 6
11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. "Faith is God's precious gift to the believer in giving
us Himself - without disturbing another wonderful gift, that of Free Moral Agency." |
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| Hoggy42
rrNovice Australia |
If anyone supports any "Scientific Theory" as fact, then they are uneducated screwballs Flight?There are many more but being a rc modeller you should be up to speed on these two. At least until further scientific discoveries are made to dispel the old "Theories"
Happens all the time in science. |
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| Dennis (RIP)
rrApprentice Oregon |
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| Dennis (RIP)
rrApprentice Oregon |
- you can't produce a quote from me where I said "the Christian god does not exist"  |
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| Dennis (RIP)
rrApprentice Oregon |
I would like to ask you directly do you believe the following two Scientific theory's are fact or not.Gravity?
Flight? Can you please site some of these and the dates of the old and new theory's? Big Bang Theory String Theory Dark MatterNew discoveries in the universe actually bring up new questions with much, much more to be discovered.etc, etc,etc, etc, etc.You will have to look up dates and old theories if you are interested. |
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| unclejane
rrElite Veteran santa fe, NM, USA |
Then, that must mean you think He does exist. |
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| Dennis (RIP)
rrApprentice Oregon |
Then, that must mean you think He does exist.What makes you think I think that? Seriously, what's your reasoning
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| Dusty1000
rrApprentice Glasgow, U.K. |
Example: It is known that on June 30, 1908 in Tunguska, Siberia, there was an explosion equivalent to the detonation of about 15 million tons of TNT. Many hypotheses have been proposed for what caused the explosion. It is theorized that the explosion was caused by a natural extraterrestrial phenomenon, and was not caused by man. Is this theory a fact? No. The event is a recorded fact. Is this this theory generally accepted to be true, based on evidence to-date? Yes. Can this theory be shown to be false and be discarded? Yes. When non-biologists talk about biological evolution they often confuse two different aspects of the definition. On the one hand there is the question of whether or not modern organisms have evolved from older ancestral organisms or whether modern species are continuing to change over time. On the other hand there are questions about the mechanism of the observed changes... how did evolution occur? Biologists consider the existence of biological evolution to be a fact. It can be demonstrated today and the historical evidence for its occurrence in the past is overwhelming. However, biologists readily admit that they are less certain of the exact mechanism of evolution; there are several theories of the mechanism of evolution.http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html |
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 outhouse
rrVeteran auburn ca |
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago. •Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so. •Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends. •Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin. |
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| unclejane
rrElite Veteran santa fe, NM, USA |
The reasoning if you claim to never deny the existence of God, then you very likely recognize the existence if God.
Simple reasoning. No? If not, please explain either your denial of the existence of God, or your acceptance of his existence. |
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| Dennis (RIP)
rrApprentice Oregon |
It is theorised that all life on earth evolved from a common ancestor, by the process of natural selection etc. Is this theory a fact? No. That all life on earth evolved from a common ancestor is a recorded fact. Is this theory generally accepted to be true, based on evidence to-date? Yes. Can this theory be shown to be false and be discarded? Yes. This is viewed a truth for most of the educated world, and contains substantiated facts to back their position. We agree that the following evidence-based facts. |
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| Dennis (RIP)
rrApprentice Oregon |
No. Incorrect reasoning. I have taken no position on your god. I don't claim it does not exist nor do I claim it does. You are the only one making a claim of any kind (that it does exist); I am simply responding with "evidence, please". Until then, I don't believe you. |
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| outhouse
rrVeteran auburn ca |
about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planethave been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results: •In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago. •Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so. •Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends. •Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin. |
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| unclejane
rrElite Veteran santa fe, NM, USA |
Then take a position.
Which is it? Your claim, your responsibility to make it believable. I do not believe claims until they're substantiated with something. I have already described that to you in detail multiple times on this thread alone. |
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| Dennis (RIP)
rrApprentice Oregon |
So I have no reason to believe you. |
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| unclejane
rrElite Veteran santa fe, NM, USA |
It is theorised that all life on earth evolved from a common ancestor, by the process of natural selection etc. Is this theory a fact? No. That all life on earth evolved from a common ancestor is a recorded fact. Is this theory generally accepted to be true, based on evidence to-date? Yes. Can this theory be shown to be false and be discarded? Yes.
This is viewed a truth for most of the educated world, and contains substantiated facts to back their position. We agree that the following evidence-based facts. You people are so full of crap, its spillin out your eyeballs. |
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