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03-11-2014 04:15 AM  6 years ago
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mustang67ford

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Starter battery and panel box
Looking for some recommendations on a battery for my power panel. Buying a hobbico style sealed battery for like $30 seems so outdated. I use the power panel for the glo plug and starter. I currently plug into my car battery but want to build something self-contained.
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03-11-2014 04:24 AM  6 years ago
Pistol Pete

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At least 4000mAh, 25C (min) lipo and 4S, specially if using long coiled starter cables.~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~
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03-11-2014 04:38 AM  6 years ago
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Go cordless and you'll never go back.  
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03-16-2014 02:54 AM  6 years ago
mustang67ford

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I found a 7aH 12v battery at a local store thay looks like the one sold thru tower hobbies. I guess my concern, is will the battery put out enough lets say cranking amps for a starter? I may make a small box for the power panel which will hold the battery, starter and glow adapter. I will also have it wired so i can charge it without removing and also so i can plug it into my car battery as a battery bypass incase the battery goes dead.Team HeliProz - Retired
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03-16-2014 03:49 AM  6 years ago
Paul Woodcock

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Hi guys

The 12v gel cell batteries are ok for up to 50 sized.

90 size needs more amps.

I tried 14s NiCd on my Hobico starter and found the wires got hot. I then used the 14s with short cables and a rubber battery holder. Worked really well. With today's technology, I would use a 4s lipo.

I later tried the Align starter. It is just enough for a 90 in a warm climate.

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03-16-2014 08:41 AM  6 years ago
RogerRabbit62

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SwitchGlo in the Heli,
Align Super Starter on a 4s4000 and you never need anything else.
manual pump at the fuel or a electric connected to the align.
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03-16-2014 01:01 PM  6 years ago
mustang67ford

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I already have the manual fuel pumps. I would prefer not using lips for the starter, but when you guys are talking about batteries on the starter, how long do they last and how do you attach them? Pics?

Asfor the pushglo, I prefer the power panel over the push glo. The power panel gives useful info on the plug health and i think the pushglo overheats the plugs.
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03-16-2014 01:33 PM  6 years ago
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I got rid of the power panel and gel cell battery over 15 years ago and never looked back. This is what I'm currently using for starter setup, fuel, and glow driver. The glow driver only needs to be charged once a year. The starter gets charged 2-3 times a year. The Slimline battery base has 10AA batteries. I use Eneloop batteries. The low self discharge works great. Only charge them a 2-3 times a year as well.

  
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03-16-2014 02:02 PM  6 years ago
mustang67ford

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Thanks for the pics. That's an interesting glow starter. As for the motor starter, i looked at that setup, but it is very $$ especally not having the battry or battery charger. I would like to use my existing 12v torquemaster 90. Though it may change when i try to start my gassser when its finished...Team HeliProz - Retired
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03-16-2014 02:34 PM  6 years ago
Ace Dude

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You can by the Makita charger and batteries on eBay. I've used several starter setups over the years and the Finer Edge/Makita setup is the best I've ever come across.  
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03-16-2014 02:39 PM  6 years ago
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Asfor the pushglo, I prefer the power panel over the push glo. The power panel gives useful info on the plug health and i think the pushglo overheats the plugs.
I highly doubt the Pushglo overheats the plugs. It's microprocessor controlled and is far superior to anything you're going to find in a power panel. Some of those power panels are nothing more than a few components and a 555 timer.
  
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03-16-2014 03:34 PM  6 years ago
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1) SwitchGlo works great. Best aftermarket product ever made.

2) I use A123 packs for my starter. I use 4S but you could just as easily use 5S and be comparable to a 4S LiPo. A123 will not blow up and burn down your garage.

http://www.buyA123batteries.com is a real place. I have purchased 30 cells from them. Build your own packs. About $10 per cell. I know a tired flight pack makes a FREE starter pack but it is still a LiPo.

3) I keep a 12 volt gel cell charged to charge my RX pack. I may replace it with a 3P4S A123.

4) You lazy guys (edited) should get an MK hand pump. Lasts forever.
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03-16-2014 03:41 PM  6 years ago
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3) I keep a 12 volt gel cell charged to charge my RX pack. I may replace it with a 3P4S A123.
I've always charged my RX packs from my car battery. Several folks have made large A123 packs for field charging, etc.
4) You lazy guys (edited) should get an MK hand pump. Lasts forever.
I tried both the MK hand pump and the MK electric pump, they both leaked. Once you use a peristaltic pump you'll never use another gear pump again.
  
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03-16-2014 04:19 PM  6 years ago
Paul Woodcock

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Hi guys

+1 for the Rcats glow driver. Way better than any powerpannel.
It is very easy to fry a glow plug with a power panel. If you accidently bump the "volume" up..... Plug will blow.

Before I got the rcats one ,I was thinking of mounting a switch glow in a box.... Never happened.

The battery holder I used:

http://www.ronlund.com/rcheli-prod/...THER/KS454.html

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Paul
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03-16-2014 05:08 PM  6 years ago
GScott

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I used the same 3s lipo on my starter for over 5 years. It was a TP 15c 2100 from my first 450 and I still have it. It would go months between charges. I only replaced it because 3s wasn't enough to start my OS 105. Now I use a 4s 1800. Both are connected to the starter with a Deans connector. I simply cut the banana connectors off the starter and soldered on the Deans. I used Velcro to attach the pack and one of the old black rubber bands from a Protos kit to keep it in place.

Now with an onboard glow and a 3s lipo on my fuel pump I carry almost nothing to the field and fly all day.
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03-16-2014 05:09 PM  6 years ago
JEEPWORLD2002/2

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Same problem went to charge 8.5 v n my 902 won't charge it I tried add a load by putting my c size glow on the charge port on the power panel n it started to charge but pull the load off n my 902 shuts down I was thinking of rewiring my. Old 4s 4000 to a 2s 2p n using that . I already use a 4s 4000 on my danatron but like the convience of using the pwr panel for adjustable glo power ?? Seems to make my plugs last longer ??

Can the hobbico power panel handle 16 v I don't use the panel for a fuel pump or starter just glo n some times charging n c size wireless glo
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03-16-2014 07:44 PM  6 years ago
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The beauty of the RCATS and the SwitchGlo is that they automatically adjust themselves.  
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03-18-2014 03:18 AM  6 years ago
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+1 RCats
Works like charm

Also get you a finer edge adapter and do the makita
Setup

Works great!!

Go portable, dump the power panel old school

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03-18-2014 05:19 PM  6 years ago
mustang67ford

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Wow, just seen the price of the rcats glow driver. I think I have just ruled that out. Already have the power panel so I am leaning towards using the sealed 12v 7aH battery. Hopefully, I still get the same torque as I did using my car battery for the starter.Team HeliProz - Retired
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03-18-2014 05:45 PM  6 years ago
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Uh...NO.
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