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02-16-2014 11:58 PM  4 years agoPost 81
BobOD

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There are 3 of him.

Day shift, night shift and graveyard shift.

Team POP Secret

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02-17-2014 04:20 AM  4 years agoPost 82
RudeRebel

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Both sites have their merits. For me being a noob to the hobby, i do like the fact that there are specific links to specific helis at HeliFreak. I dont have to scroll through threads on every Compass heli for example to see threads specific to Warps for example.

As I gain more experience, I may participate in more threads that aren't related to helis or electronics I own, but I want to be able to contribute and not just be a disturbing voice.

I see many of the same users on both sites,

As for RunRyder, I really enjoy the general discussion threads as they ar entertaining and/or informative. The organization of the threads is very good although ome more layer for models below manufacture link would be helpful for noobs like me. The search works pretty good and good options available for searching.

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02-17-2014 04:42 AM  4 years agoPost 83
Mark Ryder

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For me being a noob to the hobby, i do like the fact that there are specific links to specific helis at HeliFreak.
RR does this via Sub Sections. I ask for feedback on creating new.

Example of 9 model sub sections.
e-Align T-REX
https://rc.runryder.com/f94p1/

FAQ: Forum Sub Sections...
https://rc.runryder.com/help-faq/To...um_Sub_Sections

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02-17-2014 05:12 AM  4 years agoPost 84
shinysideUP

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I dont have to scroll through threads on every Compass heli for example to see threads specific to Warps for example.
HeliFreaks sub section is the only thing that's ok about using that site, but there search engine is SH$T, other wise your fingers and eyeballs get tired from scrolling endlessly up and down the screen trying to find the thread you want.
RR is so intuitive, posts and subscriptions are handled real easy, and the search engine is the BEST on any Forum!

HeliFreak is like visiting dungeon, and I am not referring to the creepy people that are over there!

My account is still in good standing over there anyways.

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02-17-2014 05:38 AM  4 years agoPost 85
RM3

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I remember being on HF and saying that a certin gasoline engine from OS was going to be an initial failure...

whew..i got jumped on like a taco platter in ethiopia...

now I just go over there and look once in a while, but post anything...no Fing way.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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02-17-2014 07:02 AM  4 years agoPost 86
LarsL

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I use both sites. Both are fine. In my opinion one is not better or worse than the other. Plenty of good discussion on both. I don't see any evidence on either that the threads are steered one direction or another. I don't see any evidence of a "Good Ol Boy" or Mod influence on that site or on this one. There are topics covered on RR that aren't on the other. I find RR's engine section much more active and diverse with its topics. I do like the Finless section and find it very useful. I have a Jeti DS16 and the section there is very active and basically nonexistent here. I also have a HC/BD and there is 10 fold the information there than there is here.

I think putting down the other site here is disappointing. If I see the other site have a topic putting down RR, I will be equally disappointed.

Lars

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02-17-2014 08:04 AM  4 years agoPost 87
Chad Douglas

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LarsL -

I don’t and won’t challenge the negative HF experiences listed. Many are notorious forum dynamics..
I’ve indicated already.., having no meaningful view of HF one way or the other. Irrelevant either way....

While a few report mutual scrutiny, the fact that we seem to be the only ones here who see little merit or purpose, as its primary tone, to bash another popular forum.., is also disappointing.

Chad

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02-17-2014 03:55 PM  4 years agoPost 88
RudeRebel

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Thanks Mark, I hadn't realized this feature existed. People on the two forums I most frequent don't seem to be aware of it either. There is no Warp section under e-Compass, and in the e-Gaui section the X3 sub-section has (8) threads. Meanwhile there are dozens more X3 threads under the e-Gaui uncategorized so I know it isn't because people are not participating.

In any case, I hope the Warp sub-section will be created, and I will certainly utilize the sub-section feature going forward. Thanks.

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02-18-2014 01:04 AM  4 years agoPost 89
DS 8717

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I remember being on HF and saying that a certin gasoline engine from OS was going to be an initial failure...
whew..i got jumped on like a taco platter in ethiopia...
now I just go over there and look once in a while, but post anything...no Fing way.
s
You and me both brother.I pointed out a couple of errors that finless made in his Aurora build video which were out right wrong and not debateable and didnt think i would get out of there alive.His fan club would have tared and feathered me if they could have...

YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE..IF YOU LIVE IT RIGHT THATS ALL YOU NEED

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02-18-2014 07:52 PM  4 years agoPost 90
Mark Ryder

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There is no Warp section under e-Compass
Forum Suggestion Box - Volunteers Wanted
https://rc.runryder.com/t759602p1/

Mark Ryder

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02-18-2014 08:02 PM  4 years agoPost 91
Anthony.L

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For me being a noob to the hobby, i do like the fact that there are specific links to specific helis at HeliFreak. I dont have to scroll through threads on every Compass heli for example to see threads specific to Warps for example.
I actually feel the opposite on the topic. To me the proliferation of sub-forums over on HF dilutes the audience too much. Which of the hundred sub-forums do I post in adds confusion, and each sub-forum tends to have little activity because of the extremely narrow focus.

If you are too lazy to scroll through some threads that don't interest you then just do searches only for specific items.

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02-18-2014 08:16 PM  4 years agoPost 92
Ace Dude

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The issue with sub-forms is that people are constantly mus-categorizing things.

  

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02-18-2014 09:17 PM  4 years agoPost 93
Anthony.L

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The issue with sub-forms is that people are constantly mus-categorizing things.
Absolutely, which is what I was referring to about confusion it creates...

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02-18-2014 10:02 PM  4 years agoPost 94
McKrackin

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And 90% of the fixes or mods made on a Trex 250 will work on all the sizes....

Same with all models.

At HF...I posted my direct drive variable pitch tail system in the main forum.
Since I was testing it on a Trex 250...that's where the mods moved it.
REALLY? Will my thread help a lot of Trex 250 owners who are having issues with their DDVP tail?

Or trying new blades? You better blur out any brands on the heli or it will be sent off to whatever brand specific forum they see fit.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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02-18-2014 10:06 PM  4 years agoPost 95
RudeRebel

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Well, the way RunRyder organizes their sub-sections, I don't think this is an issue as initially clicking on the link for Compass for example, displays all threads including the ones from the sub-section.

Ultimately what makes a forum successful is the participation of it's membership. Ease of use enhances participation. If as you say, Anthony.L, that majority of users don't want the granularity, than majority rules. That being said, if mis-catergorizing is a "knowing how to use the tool" issue, not a "I don't really like that feature" issue, then it is education that is required, not removal.

For me there is nothing more frustrating than users who have no idea on an issue spewing just to say they are participating, and in extreme cases, just trying to stir up trouble.

I think RunRyder's method is the best of both worlds in this regard as participants can browse the main categories in a general sense, or drill down for those looking for specifics.

For me, while I am a noob, the things I do know I know really well and I like helping those who need help on an area where I am knowledgeable and give back as it were. The ability to narrow focus allows me to also look through threads specific to my area of learning, reading or participating in existing threads instead of creating new duplicate threads. I'm not saying my view is right, but just sharing my perspective.

This thread should probably be moved or retitled so that others participate as we've significantly deviated from the initial thread. I'm not advocating to be like HF or comparing it to HF. I'm advocating for making this forum the best it can be.

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02-18-2014 10:17 PM  4 years agoPost 96
RudeRebel

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If the intention is to keep noobs out, then advertise it as such, no need to be subtle. If you want to grow, or even maintain, your user base, you need to continue nurture their participation.

I hadn't realized that elitism was what this forum was about because I've encountered nothing but great engagement.

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02-18-2014 10:49 PM  4 years agoPost 97
McKrackin

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If the intention is to keep noobs out, then advertise it as such, no need to be subtle. If you want to grow, or even maintain, your user base, you need to continue nurture their participation.

I hadn't realized that elitism was what this forum was about because I've encountered nothing but great engagement.
Explain that please.

I actually see the complete opposite here.
Here...anyone can access any thread...At other sites it's members only in many sections and new members are often attacked and made to feel stupid and many times they are flat out told they are.

You don't have to register here to see any of the content unlike other forums that make it mandatory to artificially inflate their numbers.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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02-18-2014 10:56 PM  4 years agoPost 98
McKrackin

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Ultimately what makes a forum successful is the participation of it's membership. Ease of use enhances participation. If as you say, Anthony.L, that majority of users don't want the granularity, than majority rules. That being said, if mis-catergorizing is a "knowing how to use the tool" issue, not a "I don't really like that feature" issue, then it is education that is required, not removal.
I think you completely miss the point.
Too many sub sections make it HARDER for new guys to use.

Many new guys that start with something like a Trex 450 will stick with the 450 specific forum on other sites and won't even see the vast amount of info in the other sections that would greatly increase their knowledge on their model.

I see it all the time...A question from a new guy goes unanswered for weeks because many of the vets just don't visit that forum...But the question HAS been answered in another section but the new guy won't see it because he won't venture outside his section.

There is no real difference in setting up a Trex 250 as compared to a Trex 500 or even a 700.

Align questions and answers cross over on all the models and shouldn't be broken up and spread to the wind.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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02-18-2014 11:28 PM  4 years agoPost 99
jackp332

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+1

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02-18-2014 11:45 PM  4 years agoPost 100
RudeRebel

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McKrackin, I think we are agreeing in a roundabout sort of way. the beauty of RunRyder is that specific heli model posts do show up in the general brand topic by default. the sub-section feature already exists so where is the harm in adding a model that clearly isn't going away any time soon.

Sorry, mistook your tone towards HF incorrectly as directed at noobs. I think we all agree that simplicity keeps things easy for everyone, noobs and vets alike. I definitely see your points and agree with you.

Thank you for engaging in this discussion and letting me have a voice, albeit an inexperienced one.

I'm editing my previous post, removing the p.s.

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