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12-31-2013 12:54 PM  4 years agoPost 21
rcnut

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And this is why I have started switching my fleet over to gas and electrics! I like nitro, but if the nitro companies are going to play games, I'll use something else!

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12-31-2013 03:12 PM  4 years agoPost 22
Rob43

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This is scarry. I just built a new nitro, and part of my plans have always included buying fuel at Toledo for a bargain. My LHS has not been a good source of fuel. I've really enjoyed Wildcat CY30 in my models, and for a great price too. I am really anxious to see if they drop the Wildcat offer at Toledo.

I am contacting them to find out.

Rob

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12-31-2013 03:37 PM  4 years agoPost 23
Ace Dude

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Same here, was considering a 700 nitro to complement my 700 electric, but will put that on hold for now. Thanks for reaching out to them directly. Wildcat always had great prices at Toledo.

  

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12-31-2013 03:50 PM  4 years agoPost 24
Rob43

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Bought like 4 cases last time at $19/gal. I will report back as soon as I can. I doubt anyone is in today at BO, but I might try their phone too.

Rob

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12-31-2013 04:22 PM  4 years agoPost 25
dkshema

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Byrons has a world class fuel blending facility in Iowa. They've been blending their own for years. Wildcat sells their product line to Byrons with Byron to continue to blend Wildcat.

How is that supposed to sound the death knell for nitro?

People seem to be predicting nothing but doom these days. Horizon Hobbies is now supposed to die, as should Mikado; now Wildcat and all nitro motors are to follow.

Great way to end the year.

Happy New Year to all.

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12-31-2013 05:50 PM  4 years agoPost 26
ticedoff8

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Shipping LiPos today don't incur the "Hazardous Materials" shipping premium - yet.

When that happens, I bet international shipping of LiPos becomes a thing of the past.
No international shipping = no cheap LiPo.
And, no cheap LiPo means nitro is back on equal ground once again (cost per flight).

Every few years something happens and everyone assumes "nitro is dead".

I wouldn't give up on nitro just yet.

To paraphrase Mark Twain:
"The reports of nitro's death have been greatly exaggerated".

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12-31-2013 05:53 PM  4 years agoPost 27
bjacks

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Fuel
Dave you hit it on the head, so what if Byron's making Wildcat fuel, where do you think Horzion going, what's the big deal about Readyheli carry Goblins, anybody that's a Prestiage dealer can sell Goblins I think, let's all think good things about 2014, everybody have a safe New Year. Bobby

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12-31-2013 06:25 PM  4 years agoPost 28
Ace Dude

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Byrons has a world class fuel blending facility in Iowa. They've been blending their own for years. Wildcat sells their product line to Byrons with Byron to continue to blend Wildcat.

How is that supposed to sound the death knell for nitro?
Did you read the entire thread?

I didn't see anyone mention the quality of Byron's blending facility or its location.

The issues, as I see it:

1) Wildcat has for years offered great prices for fuel at the Toledo Show and at IRCHA.

2) Wildcat has offered a club purchase program whereas clubs can purchase directly from Wildcat for a very attractive price. As mentioned previously, my club used to purchase an entire pallet (50+ cases).

  

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12-31-2013 06:26 PM  4 years agoPost 29
Ace Dude

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Shipping LiPos today don't incur the "Hazardous Materials" shipping premium - yet.
Some vendors are already offering split packs to comply with the global shipping requirements.

  

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12-31-2013 06:54 PM  4 years agoPost 30
BradNewman

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Everything is going to be fine! Nitro is not going anywhere! Too many people still love it, which causes a demand, and where there is a demand, there will always be someone to supply!
Happy New Year!

Remember to keep everything balanced!

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12-31-2013 08:08 PM  4 years agoPost 31
dkshema

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Byrons will figure out how to sell fuel. Wildcat, or otherwise. It does them no good sitting in a large tank on their premises.

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12-31-2013 08:42 PM  4 years agoPost 32
dschertz

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I think the concern is more about price. Every shop I have been to has Byron's for around 30+ per gallon. When going to Toledo it was 19, then went up to around 22. If it jumps 8 per gallon, that is going to be a significant increase and may not be worth it. Not every club is going to purchase one of these two. The club I belong to buys Rich's brew. If they even tell you when they are buying. Mostly plane guys.

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12-31-2013 08:44 PM  4 years agoPost 33
Ace Dude

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And as a consumer I will continue to reward and recommend those vendors who provide outstanding customer service.

  

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01-03-2014 11:33 PM  4 years agoPost 34
Rob43

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It seems many have a source for buying fuel at a discount. My club doesn't buy fuel to supply it's members at a discount. They buy from the LHS, which is fine, but it's Cool Power at $32/gallon. Without Wildcat at Toledo, I am not yet sure what I will do. I had been planning to add a 90 to the fleet, but likely won't if my fuel cost is that high.

Rob

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01-03-2014 11:39 PM  4 years agoPost 35
Kinger

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Not sure I understand why Byron would make you go through a local retailer if you are able to have a pallet delivered via freight? Why pay a possible mark up for the store owner if I'm not asking the store owner to store the fuel or use his location to accept the freight?

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01-04-2014 01:10 AM  4 years agoPost 36
Ace Dude

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Not sure I understand why Byron would make you go through a local retailer if you are able to have a pallet delivered via freight? Why pay a possible mark up for the store owner if I'm not asking the store owner to store the fuel or use his location to accept the freight?
It just happens to be the way they market their products. Some manufacturers sell direct to consumers and some don't.

  

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01-04-2014 02:26 AM  4 years agoPost 37
GREYEAGLE

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They believe in protecting their distribution net work and the distributor's.

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01-04-2014 03:21 AM  4 years agoPost 38
Ace Dude

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Don't they distribute directly?

  

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01-06-2014 03:45 PM  4 years agoPost 39
jensmarc

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Ida Grove, Iowa, USA

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Greetings to all those who have questions on Byron and Wildcat. More details will follow but for now we want all of you to know Wildcat will be available at Toledo in a combined Wildcat/Byron booth. You can expect the same service and product quality Jerry has always provided. Marc Jensen, Byron Originals

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01-06-2014 05:57 PM  4 years agoPost 40
Rob43

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Thanks for the information.

Rob

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