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12-14-2013 02:09 AM  5 years ago
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biggjoe

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P6 blade grip question
I recently traded for a Pantera P6 that had 5 flights on it when I got it. The blade grips seem to have play in them so I ordered a new head and it is the same. Is this normal for the Pantera? The grips seem to move up and down like they are loose on the bearings. Is there a fix for this or perhaps metal head out there that will work on this heli? Thanks for any help.
Joe
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12-14-2013 02:40 AM  5 years ago
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Joe,

It's perfectly normal. What happens is under load the polymer of the grip 'flows' and grips the bearings. We've had unbelieving customers turn aluminum to create in effect a shim, subsequently fly it, then report no change in flying characteristics. Take a leap of faith and fly it, then report back how nicely it handles. I have faith you'll become a believer.

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John Beech
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12-14-2013 02:49 AM  5 years ago
biggjoe

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Hi John, thanks for the reply. I had it out the other day and noticed when It was in a hover the flybar was level but the blades seem to be tilted to the right (looking form the rear). I looked it over and the play in the grips were the only thing I saw, I'm glad to hear that play is normal. Any idea why the blades would be tilted in a level hover? I really like the pantera it makes so much more sense than all the carbon and bling.
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12-14-2013 03:26 AM  5 years ago
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That's normal too for RH rotation rotor disks. What's happening is the tail rotor is counteracting the torque and blowing the model to the left so the rotor disk is tilted to the right (all this in the hover, of course) in order to counteract that sideways force. FWIW, what blows my mind to this day is when I hover a model with a LH rotating disk (seen from above) because it's backward to what I am used to.

Anyway, if you pay attention you'll see you subconsciously add a little bit of right cyclic when you lift the model up and into a hover. Said discovery was useful when I began to perform lift offs from the nose-in position because I would get all discombobulated when I lifted the model off 'unless' I relied on muscle memory and added in the usual bit of right cyclic upon lift off when suddenly, everything was good.

John Beech
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12-14-2013 10:15 AM  5 years ago
biggjoe

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I had not thought of that. Thanks for the great info John. I can't wait to get back out there with it and get to know it better. To cold here for now though.
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01-06-2014 08:08 PM  5 years ago
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This is typical of the Pantera. I don't like the slop, other brands and models don't have the kind of slop I've had on Panterasd but it doesn't seem to hurt anything. I still couldn't stand it and went to alternative grips and head pieces. In fairness to what John has said though, what I chose to do would have to be considered elective, it was not a necessity.
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