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12-11-2013 10:34 PM  5 years ago
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kumoro

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What's Next???
Hi,
So I managed to hover all of the orientation (tail in, nose in, right-left side-in), move sideways (tail in, nose in), move forward-backward (righ-left nose in), move forward left-right (move right and then change orientation to left in, move forward, change to right in..).
All I do in just a foot high and slow speed. What should I do next??
1. Do another manouver (figure 8, left/right circle)
2. Pick up speed, or
3. Pick up height
Any comment would be appreciate.
Thank you,
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12-12-2013 12:13 AM  5 years ago
wrongler

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Figure 8 is a great practice maneuver, try and keep it level and smooth.Bill Whittaker
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12-12-2013 12:26 AM  5 years ago
kumoro

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Is it still in 1 foot high while doing this maneuver?
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12-12-2013 01:21 AM  5 years ago
doorman

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Figure 8
I agree that is one of the best practice manuevers..
I would move up to about 10' ..
That gives you just a bit more room to smooth out the "bumps"!!

Stan
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12-12-2013 01:31 AM  5 years ago
Retired2011

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Figure 8
Yes, get it up higher...scary at first, but gives you more time to correct a wrong move before it hits the ground. (That's the voice of experience)
Also, getting up a little higher will be easier, because you are not fighting ground turbulance.
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12-12-2013 08:19 PM  5 years ago
garyinbg

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You could try this :)
All the things you are doing are really good, especially at 1 foot off the ground

Also all the advice offered is sound, I can offer these things to think about.

When we move the heli to a new location in the sky it has subtle changes to the parts of the heli that the brain uses as references, when we lose the parts that are usually used ( ie looking from the top ) then the brain becomes confused and so stops working...( crash )

if we give the brain a chance and move say two to three feet then go through all the moves you can do the references for the brain increase as do the chances of the brain to deal with the changes and keep things in the air.

This same process can be gone through until you are flying high and far away and near, on your left and right hand sides.
You may see at your field, if you have other heli or fixed wing pilots there that they are ( handed ), by that I mean they make all or most of there moves on the left or the right of themselves. The better pilots can do any if their moves anywhere in the sky, high low, left, right

As I say many people will offer many things as next steps and all have some value, take what you like and keep the rest in mind.

Hope it helps

Regards from Bulgaria... Just celebrated 33 years for flying these infernal things hahahahha
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12-12-2013 10:04 PM  5 years ago
kumoro

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You got the point..thank you,
Since some of friends here suggest to fly higher, I then tried to bring it 6' in the air, and yes, I start to lose control since I couldnt find reference for the heli, especially in turns moves (left and right). Will try to bring it up step by step, 1' at a time, when my brain get used to, I'll take it to another 1' till I can do all the moves in 10' or more.
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12-16-2013 02:21 PM  5 years ago
LuckyLen

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It appears that you have your orientations, so then go higher and do figures 8s. This will work on your ability to go clockwise and counterclockwise.

After that try some loops for fun. Get some altitude and simply get some speed and try it so the momentum carries you through and you are not so dependent on timing the collective.

The above as you smooth it out will get you used to inverted (if just for a moment). As you progress try to hold the inverted at the top of the loop longer and longer before coming out.

Last, don't forget to practice your backwards manuevers and keep up on your orientation hovering.
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12-16-2013 02:29 PM  5 years ago
Pistol Pete

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whats next?
http://www.ircha.org/pilot-proficiency-program
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12-16-2013 10:10 PM  5 years ago
kumoro

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Thank you LuckyLen, this is very simple practice to get into inverted. I try figure 8, but still not so smooth and still in 3-5' high. I am gonna make this smooth first then go higher. I'll do your simple practice example, and after it's going smooth and smooth, then I'll make a shot with Pilot Proficiency Program from IRCHA just like what Pistol_pete pointed.
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12-17-2013 06:16 PM  5 years ago
LuckyLen

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For me I try to do things in steps. Once step that helps to the next step. Try to get your backwards straight line flight. That will save you the first time you blow out and end up coming backwards.

I have seen and been the victim of doing a loop losing orientation and coming backwards fast. Not too difficult to save if you are ready for it.

For now altitude is your friend. If you get in trouble just remember to get your collective to mid stick (it slows things down wheter upright or inverted) and then get to your safety position - typically tail in. Always have a bail-out plan.
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12-17-2013 07:37 PM  5 years ago
kcordell

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One thing you will find is that you will hit the 'wall' learning wise, then complete something you haven't tried yet then it's onto another level, then another 'wall' and so on. Just keep at it, learn visual at ALL angles, high, low, left, right, nose in, tail in and so on.Team Synergy/Rail, Team Scorpion, YS Engines, VelTye
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