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12-30-2013 08:01 PM  4 years agoPost 61
jespicer1

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Grim,

I would be willing to try out a new carb. I would even test a new carb design. Before I fly on the stock carb any more. I need to know that TT is willing to ship me a new engine if this one goes south. I highly dought that will happen. So let me know.

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12-30-2013 08:20 PM  4 years agoPost 62
skytrekin

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Well my experiences are different than yours.

My 56 is completely stock with the stock carb. The screw you mention on mine is and was tight.

My 56 with the stock carb is working great providing lots of power for hard tic tocs and huge power loops running Rotor Rage 30%

I am sorry you are having so much trouble with yours.

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12-30-2013 08:37 PM  4 years agoPost 63
Grimracer

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Jes. you have a PM

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12-30-2013 09:14 PM  4 years agoPost 64
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One thing I want to make clear to everyone is this: I am not posting this to bash TT in any way. Other than one issue with the carb. I have had no problems out of this engine.

Like it has been said before. It makes great power and doesn't eat bearing like some other engines out there. It's a great little engine. It just needs to breathe a little better. Lol.

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01-02-2014 02:54 PM  4 years agoPost 65
Grimracer

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This one makes life easer...lol

Drill a 2.3mm hole though the throttle arm screw. Makes it MUCH easer to get to the Low Speed Needle!

Grim

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01-02-2014 06:53 PM  4 years agoPost 66
TMoore

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That needle is not meant to be adjusted. It is adjusted at the factory for the correct spacing in relationship to the mixture metering screw or LS needle. Look at the diagram in TT's own manual and all will be revealed. Look also at the manual and voila there is the spring you said wasn't there.

It might be a good idea if you review your own documentation just to be clear. This isn't exactly inspiring confidence on your part.

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01-21-2014 06:14 PM  4 years agoPost 67
jespicer1

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Well I retuned my engine with the stock carb Sunday. It ran fine. I have been ruining it on the rich side since installed the engine. It ran fine. I will be trying my modded OS carb to compare. I don't expect my carb to hold the tune.

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01-21-2014 06:34 PM  4 years agoPost 68
Grimracer

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Good news.. keep us posted.

Grimracer

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01-22-2014 03:05 PM  4 years agoPost 69
jespicer1

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I was flying my NEX 50 at 2100 RPM with 13 degrees collective -&+.
Outrage 56 pipe
Edge 623 main blades.
The power was better than expected. No bogging even with the 13 degrees collective.

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02-02-2014 12:01 AM  4 years agoPost 70
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I tried to fly today. No changes from the last I flew it. I got about 1/4 of the way into the first tank. It started sounding raspy. I was bringing it in to land and it quit. I was able to auto with no damage to the heli. I nave no issues with fuel tubing or the clunk. There are no leaks.

I gave it the stock carb one last try before installing the os carb. Now I am berry pissed off. Just like Tmoore said I would be.

Now I have a burnt up engine. Let's hear some Thunder Tiger Reps on this.

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02-02-2014 02:02 AM  4 years agoPost 71
TMoore

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You can't trust that carb. About the time you think it's all right is the time it bites you hard. Kinda reminds me of Jack Nicholson on the Bucket List; you can't trust a fart.

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02-03-2014 02:19 PM  4 years agoPost 72
Grimracer

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Most important is to contact Product Support about your issue.

Raspy? Do you feel the motor was going lean? What parts of the engine were dammaged after inpection. (did you take it apart?)

Thanks.

Grimracer

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02-03-2014 02:38 PM  4 years agoPost 73
jespicer1

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Yes it started running lean. Ran fine for about 2 minutes into the flight. The damage is piston, liner, and ring.
Yes I have tried to contact customer service. I have received no reply.

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02-03-2014 04:22 PM  4 years agoPost 74
jespicer1

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I sent another email to engine support. Maybe I will get a reply this time.

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02-03-2014 10:17 PM  4 years agoPost 75
jespicer1

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After a hour on the phone with great planes I was told this: since I have no proof of purchase, they will not service or replace my engine. The guy on the phone said: how do we know you you just buy a damaged engine and are wanting a free engine.

Well I can understand their position on the proof of purchase. So now my flying season is done before it ever got started.
If I had a proof of purchase it sounded like they would have replaced the engine, no problem. Even though it was new, because I bought it here in the classifieds I am screwed.
Thanks again Terry for trying to help me out.
I really hope everyone else has better luck with there TT engines than I have. See you guys next year maybe.

Happy flying.

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02-03-2014 11:47 PM  4 years agoPost 76
Tyler

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And the warnings were offered to not trust the TT carb early in the game. Realizing the gamble of buying from the classifieds with no warranty, even if new, is a risk we must consider and accept, which you have done very well. I especially admire your honesty with Hobbico. However, this thread is evidence that the TT carb should not be trusted and that TT should take care of this matter once and for all. It appears they will avoid responsibility for repairs by mandating a receipt and simply swallow the costs of repairing the few engines that burn up with an honorable receipt.

Easier for them to take this route than design and sell a quality product.

Again, the engines are great. The carb is the problem.

Tyler

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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02-04-2014 02:06 PM  4 years agoPost 77
Grimracer

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Although not satisfied with the motor.. it looks like we have an understanding of the outcome.. right?.. hope so..
Take care
Grim

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02-04-2014 02:38 PM  4 years agoPost 78
jespicer1

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The understanding is as follows:

Thunder Tiger makes a great long block.
You must install a OS carb for proper operation.

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02-04-2014 02:42 PM  4 years agoPost 79
TMoore

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Although not satisfied with the motor.. it looks like we have an understanding of the outcome.. right?.. hope so..
Take care
The understanding is like I've been saying long before you got involved and long before this thread; the carb doesn't work out of the box and no amount of magic pixie dust is going to change that. The fix is called a total redesign to a better standard.

When you try to run the carb on the edge of right it fails every time. That's why the OS carbs just work, you can run them on the edge and they stay on the edge.

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02-04-2014 02:59 PM  4 years agoPost 80
jespicer1

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I will just rebuild the engine and run my os carb on it.

Grim,
Want to send me some parts? Lol.

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