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11-05-2013 01:57 PM  4 years agoPost 1
HeliNutAndy

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Is there a specific time of the year when model manufacturers release their new kits or new versions of their models? I'm looking to buy another model and I realize winter is coming. I don't want to purchase a model just to find out I should have waited or it is obsolete now.

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11-05-2013 01:59 PM  4 years agoPost 2
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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New releases seem to be most often announced at the Nuremburg Toy Fair in February and IRCHA in August.

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11-05-2013 02:05 PM  4 years agoPost 3
unclejane

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I've never found much rhyme or reason to it, myself. So really, unless they're just slap saying the new model is coming out, putting up pictures, etc., go ahead and get what you want now.

The best way to avoid the planned obsolecense thing is to buy from manufacturers who tend to support their products for a while. Align and Miniature Aircraft are good examples. Even after the new model comes out, there tends to be parts available for the older ones. Only in extreme cases, like my trex 700 which is an old V1 model, will parts start to come up out of stock all over the place.

MA has already revised the Whippy E, making my now old-school "V1" Whippy E more or less not worth a dime. But as far as I know, they're still supporting the old one. Hope I don't crash it to find out lol.

My trex 700E super-stone-age V1 FBL conversion is starting to get hard to find parts for. For certain things that is. But for the most part I can keep it going...

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11-05-2013 02:07 PM  4 years agoPost 4
bkervaski

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Seems that big announcements are made at Huntsville and IRCHA here in the US but there are releases all year.

Manufacturers are hesitant to release dates as the forums will crucify them if they slip .. who remembers the "two weeks" fiasco?

So now most wait until they have kits in hand to publicly give a date.

There are new helis coming soon for sure, what are you looking for?

Edit: unclejane has a great point, you'll always be chasing the rabbit if you're always waiting for the next big thing.

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11-05-2013 02:13 PM  4 years agoPost 5
wrongler

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Hi Andy,
What is your next purchase going to be?

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11-05-2013 02:56 PM  4 years agoPost 6
Ace Dude

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Time is money and in this economy no one is going to wait any longer than necessary to get their products to market.

  

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11-05-2013 04:55 PM  4 years agoPost 7
HeliNutAndy

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What is your next purchase going to be?
I have been looking at the Goblins for a while now and would like to see what the fuss is about They recently came out with the 'competition' series and I know the guys with the original must be a little upset. I would be. The only problem is I like the original canopy much better and I would like an extra few minutes of flight time which I'm finding out is a problem with electric models. As soon as I get in the groove with what I am practicing I have to land. I am getting 6-7 minutes using my 500 and 600 which isn't bad but I need more Here goes the electric versus nitro battles....

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11-05-2013 05:51 PM  4 years agoPost 8
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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They recently came out with the 'competition' series and I know the guys with the original must be a little upset.
I do believe that the point of marketing any product is planned obsolescence, so if people who bought the V1 Goblin did not want to buy the V2 Goblin, then that company would not be doing it's job.

The secret to this hobby, and to any product line including cars, computers, etc, is to wait until the new version is released, buy it, enjoy it, and then sell it right before the next version is released.

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11-05-2013 06:44 PM  4 years agoPost 9
Ace Dude

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As soon as I get in the groove with what I am practicing I have to land. I am getting 6-7 minutes using my 500 and 600 which isn't bad but I need more
If you want longer flight times make sure you thoroughly evaluate what your getting (tank & engine size). I only get 8 minutes on my Nitro 50 with the stock tank w/o a header tank. Not much more than you're currently getting. I think most Nitros average about an 8 minute flight.

  

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11-05-2013 06:48 PM  4 years agoPost 10
JKos

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... sell it right before the next version is released.
Yep. Wait one day too long and what you have is now worth half of what was the day before. Because the new version is always so much better...

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11-05-2013 09:07 PM  4 years agoPost 11
seefest

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Buy the V1 Goblin kit. Its a bargain at $800 with blades. The only upgrade to the competition models that is worth anything is the new tail design. Even then, most people won't notice the difference. Unless you're a 1%er pilot, you'll be very happy with the V1 Goblin.
I don't like the Competition canopies either.
Depending how you gear a Goblin(and HS) you can get 6-7 minutes easy, depending on your flight style. Likewise, if you're a stick banger, you're looking at 3-4 minutes.

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11-06-2013 12:31 AM  4 years agoPost 12
BobOD

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Align seems to put something new out a couple times a year.

Mikado puts out something new 3 years after Align comes up with something everybody likes...then puts out the actual size everybody likes 2 years after that.

Avant puts something out 3 years after they say they're going to put it out.

SAB seems to have done a smashing job of creating many different sizes in a short time but I haven't really been following as I just never got into the Nemo look.

Gaui...Why bother when there's Align. Well, until the NX4, that was a good move on their part.

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11-06-2013 01:05 AM  4 years agoPost 13
Manny1776

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New releases seem to be most often announced at the Nuremburg Toy Fair in February and IRCHA in August
+1

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11-06-2013 05:20 AM  4 years agoPost 14
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this would be the next best kit
My wish list is a heli that spins 500 520 blades using a 50 size engine preferably with servo to swash and non dfc.

I just might build one using gaui parts this winter if I have to

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11-06-2013 05:36 AM  4 years agoPost 15
Qrrambero

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some times these companies show the kit in ads and it takes several months to hit the market.
I have been looking for this Heli and no one has it.

http://www.jramericas.com/233825/JRP998058/?pcat=1

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11-06-2013 09:02 AM  4 years agoPost 16
wjvail

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Yep. Wait one day too long and what you have is now worth half of what was the day before. Because the new version is always so much better...
I agree that if you hold something a bit to long, it's value falls precipitously.

It's the second part I take exception to. As a person that flies two X-Cell Tempests (FB & FBL), a now 7 year old helicopter, I don't see anything on the market better. There may be small improvements in a few places but I don't see anything "much better". There are many helicopters out now that are less expensive but that is not something that inspires me to sell my current helis for pennies on the dollar. One of the best flying and most maintenance free helis I own is my 12 year X-Cell Carbon SE. Yes there are newer, cheaper helicopters with much lower parts count and they are simpler to repair after a mishap, but I would not agree that there are "better" helicopters.

As a person with 25 years worth of obsolete helicopter servos, FM receivers, gyros and OS .91SX/YS .80 engines, I will agree that there are often very real improvements. I'm only suggesting that newer is often not necessarily better. Sometimes it's just new.

I'm posting here out of a frustration with a trend in the hobby today of many modelers chasing the newest thing assuming it's better. It leads to modelers who's hobby becomes not building and flying model aircraft, but a hobby of acquiring new things.

Or were you being facetious in the first place?

Cheers,

Bill

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11-06-2013 02:05 PM  4 years agoPost 17
HeliNutAndy

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Thx guys for the information. I have been in the 'tech' field my whole life and have seen the non sense software upgrades for years in an attempt to sell more software/services without for the most part, the real need for the upgrades. I don't even carry a cell phone any more(I keep a cheapo in my glove box) because I am tired of the tech rat race and the over exaggerated marketing of it all. I guess it's what keeps the economy rolling and I have been lucky enough to earn a great living from it I don't know why I would expect this industry to be any different. I have been involved with this hobby for a few years now and personally the only major change I've seen is the fbl revolution. I was hoping to keep buying new models and advancing my little fleet but I'm learning that there aren't too many choices out there where the models are different enough that an average guy like me would notice any real differences. I keep almost pulling the trigger on purchasing something new and then I stop and think "Is this model any better than what I already have"? I have seen a few 'older' MA models and for the most part not much has changed with the kits. I know with Planks there are a ton more options out there. Maybe my expectations are a bit high but these models are not cheap.

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11-11-2013 12:11 AM  4 years agoPost 18
ICUR1-2

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I certainly agree with you Andy about the tech rat race. What you buy today is being outdated in 3 months or less and a lot of people want the latest and greatest.

Hopefully Santa has a few surprises this year

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