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10-23-2013 06:42 PM  5 years agoPost 21
InvertedDude

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AirSoft gun old style before RED Plastic TIP required. Or the 13 year old kid modified it himself. I remember reading that the FEDS seized airsoft guns in shipment due to realistic looking features.

I still would have worked with the kid hiding behind my trooper car with police surrounding the suspect. The kid was outnumbered and out gunned, I still don't understand why would police not even work with the kid.

Shouting commands such as drop your gun isn't justifiable to kill if the order was refused.

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10-23-2013 06:44 PM  5 years agoPost 22
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As I said, though I haven't seen the pic, I find it hard to believe the officers would mistake a toy for a real rifle. I was not there, they were, and I am sure the truth will come out. But that doesn't bring that boy back to life or the guilt I am sure the officers are feeling right now.

Bad situation all around.

OK...now I have seen it...and the screws in the stock give it away to me...only because I own a real one. But I doubt very seriously the offices could tell that. Just a bad deal.

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10-23-2013 06:49 PM  5 years agoPost 23
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I still would have worked with the kid hiding behind my trooper car with police surrounding the suspect. The kid was outnumbered and out gunned, I still don't understand why would police not even work with the kid.

Shouting commands such as drop your gun isn't justifiable to kill if the order was refused.
Were or are you an officer? You must have since you seem to know how to handle the situation so well.

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10-23-2013 06:50 PM  5 years agoPost 24
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There is a good chance being 13 years old, that the kid doesn't watch the news like us. Probably not even aware of his actions may draw unwarranted attention or even a response from police. He probably just freaked out and just ran and got gunned down.

Being 13 years old, it is possible he felt embolden due to unwarranted attention. We were 13 years old and we all have done dumb sh*t in our lives.

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10-23-2013 06:52 PM  5 years agoPost 25
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Were or are you an officer? You must have since you seem to know how to handle the situation so well.
You are part of the problem, brainwashed foolz into accepting police state society. Heck, you even vote them in office!

I have seen similar situations such as this and it was handled professionally by police with no loss of life.

Thus the reason why, I posted police shoot first then ask questions.

It just seems to me California got some real F***ing problems. This is your own FAULT for accepting your politicians with no accountability.

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10-23-2013 06:53 PM  5 years agoPost 26
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It is a sad situation all around. That replica certainly passes for the real thing unless one could visually verify at closer range. Why the kid didn't drop it is beyond me but I agree that Police could have exercised better judgement. All that being said, they have to live with knowing that they shot a kid who was not actually armed. The whole situation looks as bad as it possibly could.

Perhaps the Police need the same rules of engagement as the military has and if they already do, perhaps it is time for a refresher course?

This is but another situation where we were NOT there ourselves. Making judgements without all of the facts is generalized speculation at best.

One thing we can all agree on is that it is a tragedy.

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10-23-2013 07:02 PM  5 years agoPost 27
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If you are discussing with LadyMagic, keep in mind she is an open professed Liberal.
No, I wasn't. I'm not going to simply dismiss what someone has to say based on their beliefs. I usually wait until I have heard enough to form my own conclusion. I have strong beliefs about lots of things, and I'm not going to betray myself to make someone else happy. I don't expect anyone else to do the same either. I may not agree with much of what is happening on our country right now, but I do respect the members of congress that didn't betray themselves by flip flopping. Those that did flip flopped are the lowest of the low and deserve to go. If they can't stand their ground, they have no business being there.

Now back to your regularly scheduled program!

The world is yours!

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10-23-2013 07:10 PM  5 years agoPost 28
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Police Hardware at their disposal
Okay I am going to take a little time to explain to you people what hardware police have in their trooper cars. Most states have adopted these hardware and there are a few circumstances of lacking hardware in smaller towns.


Very important equipment, can get almost any data on anyone.

NOTICE the shotgun is capable of firing the following projectiles such as:

Taser Shell

LEAD, BUCK. Sand Bags, Rubber Bullets

Plus medical kit and various everyday police hardware.

Now people pay attention and learn something, this isn't an isolated event. This is a pattern of fire first then ask questions.

No more excuses people.....I bet most of you people don't even know this!

Some police are now receiving these armor trucks:

I am frustrated not because of Uncle Sam, I understand Gov't. What I DO NOT understand are people and their ignorant minds.

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10-23-2013 07:28 PM  5 years agoPost 29
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Are you trying to convince us that most cops carry more than a fraction of this gear in their squad cars?

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10-23-2013 07:32 PM  5 years agoPost 30
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Are you trying to convince us that most cops carry more than a fraction of this gear in their squad cars?
YES, it depends on the city budget and where they get surplus from our military left overs. I have personally seen a lot of these equipment in the trunk and locked front of troopers cars.

Most I have listed are standard equipment except for riot gear usually reserved at the police facility. Go make a friend with an officer and he will show you his stuff. I think you will be floored!

Heck, I was floored and shocked myself.

Basically without sounding like a conspiracy idiot, we now have police armed like a small paramilitary force. Go check it out yourself and learn for yourself. Don't take my word for it.

Don't get me wrong, I am not against equipment. There are better ways of handling a 13 year old kid situation.

Remember, this is regarding police budget....

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10-23-2013 07:53 PM  5 years agoPost 31
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If you are discussing with LadyMagic, keep in mind she is an open professed Liberal.
In your mind maybe; in reality, I am not. Never claimed ANY political affiliation actully. Can't stand politics. You won't find a single post from me "professing my Liberalism."

In any case, politics has nothing to do with this issue. This was a case of very poor judgement on the part of the officers who supposedly trained to defuse situations like this before the need to kill is needed. Seems like they skipped a few steps and went right for the kill shot on this one and it turned out they were absolutely wrong.

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10-23-2013 07:56 PM  5 years agoPost 32
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Bean Bag + AK-47 = AK-47

Idiot's always sort themselves out 1st = 1 less idiot

To much idiot training raised my other idiot's

Explanation COP shot my Idiot = Cops Fault I'm Suing :

I had no parental responsibility creating a idiot -

They are RACIST

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10-23-2013 07:56 PM  5 years agoPost 33
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You won't find a single post from me "professing my Liberalism."
You just did.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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10-23-2013 07:58 PM  5 years agoPost 34
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Bean Bag + AK-47 = AK-47

Idiot's always sort themselves out 1st = 1 less idiot

To much idiot training raised my other idiot's

Explanation COP shot my Idiot = Cops Fault I'm Suing :

I had no parental responsibility creating a idiot -

They are RACIST
Cough, cough...I finally get the humor! Finally!

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10-23-2013 08:04 PM  5 years agoPost 35
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In your mind maybe; in reality, I am not. Never claimed ANY political affiliation actully. Can't stand politics. You won't find a single post from me "professing my Liberalism."

In any case, politics has nothing to do with this issue. This was a case of very poor judgement on the part of the officers who supposedly trained to defuse situations like this before the need to kill is needed. Seems like they skipped a few steps and went right for the kill shot on this one and it turned out they were absolutely wrong.
That is fine, not a personal attack. I was referring to your defense of Obama's policies. I may be wrong, reading your comments are usually associated with the Liberal mindset.

Do you vote for Democrats more than you vote for Independence or Republicans? You seem to have a lot of Democratic talking points in your posts. This is why I refer you as a Liberal.

I don't need an answer, just making the point.

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10-23-2013 08:10 PM  5 years agoPost 36
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You know what they say about "assume"?

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10-23-2013 08:19 PM  5 years agoPost 37
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You know what they say about "assume"?
WOW, for someone who has better typing skills/wording than I do can surely not be professing to be a low function individual on a PUBLIC FORUM? THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM, WHY WOULD I LIE? You have officially proven regardless of your higher education that you are still an low function ignorant individual! So in other words, Education doesn't prove you are SMARTER?

Good one buddy!

How about I get some real photos? I bet you still won't believe If I posted actual pictures from my police DEPT.

You are a JOKE!

Come on you can do better than this. Get your head out of your rear end and stop smelling the Liberal dog sh*t for once in your life! A vote for Obama is an automatic Liberal mindset or the other option is a low info voter. There is no other options or mindset you can ASSUME!

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10-23-2013 08:22 PM  5 years agoPost 38
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In any case, politics has nothing to do with this issue. This was a case of very poor judgement on the part of the officers who supposedly trained to defuse situations like this before the need to kill is needed.
Exactly. As I stated before, I carry a gun when and where legal. Only reached for it one time so far, "reached" being the key word here. Apparently just the motion of me pulling my coat and shirt up at my side in such a quick movement was enough to scare the knife wielding scumbag off! That being said, I don't ever want to feel the way I felt that day again, but wouldn't hesitate if god forbid the need arises again.

Police are trained, or at least supposed to be trained to deal with such demanding situations in a proper manner. Fact is according to what has been reported, they didn't act in a proper manner!

The world is yours!

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10-23-2013 08:30 PM  5 years agoPost 39
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Should of SUper Glued his shoe lace's together - taken his AK -47 away

- With his shoe laces tied, chase him around the yard - and beat him with a stick. Then go to the bar and find his mom and dad.

Just had another one age 14 - 6 foot tall - murdered a teacher with a knife -a good day.

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10-23-2013 08:47 PM  5 years agoPost 40
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You just did.
Okay smarty pants. I guess I walked right into that one. Still not a Liberal though
That is fine, not a personal attack. I was referring to your defense of Obama's policies. I may be wrong, reading your comments are usually associated with the Liberal mindset.
I understand why you may think that of me, but in all honesty, I am not in agreement with Obama's performance as POTUS, but I also do not believe all the chaos theories about him trying to run this country into the ground either. That, I think is a collective effort shared amongst uneducated, lazy, illinformed, narrow-minded Americans, the previous administration AND the current one. I do feel he is over scrutinized where others would not be
Do you vote for Democrats more than you vote for Independence or Republicans? You seem to have a lot of Democratic talking points in your posts. This is why I refer you as a Liberal.

I don't need an answer, just making the point.
I know you didn't ask for a response, but I did not vote at all these last two elections...my vote wouldn't have counted since I was overeas anyways. Although, I didn't fall for Obama's "Change" rhetoric, I was excited about the historic aspect of the whole thing and to see how Obama would perform in office. Actually, last time I voted, I voted for Bush....twice. Yes twice, I gave him the benefit of the doubt the second time. Before that, I was too young to vote...I liked Bill though.

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