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12-12-2013 05:05 AM  5 years ago
turboomni

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DID someone say anything?? I dont think so....Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them
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12-12-2013 02:35 PM  5 years ago
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oh come on..."the century is a longer heli"...seriously? like by what an inch or two? and the GSR not being carbon framed? the Century and the GSR are practically the same weight anyway...besides a TT option for the GSR...$300...how so? Century pulled that stunt by offering a TT option for our birds to the tune of $160 that included pretty much the whole ass end of the bird...only o screw that up by not offereing a gyro mount and needing to replace the elevator length as well. and whats the point of TT over belt in a heli designed for sport flying anyway?showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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12-13-2013 01:41 AM  5 years ago
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and the GSR not being carbon framed?
I did not say that !!, I said it's frame was not all carbon,, only the bottom half is carbon.

you wanted to know why the JR was less than the Century, so I threw in some reasons, take them or leave them, you don't want to buy it then don't.

BTW, to add to the list, the JR has an all white fuselage while the Century has a painted fuselage, that would bring up the price too..
a TT option for the GSR...$300...how so? Century pulled that stunt by offering a TT option for our birds to the tune of $160 that included pretty much the whole ass end of the
^^^oh come on, < your own words there, soooo you are comparing the price of the little Radikal 20cc TT drive to a TT price of what would go on the much larger JR 830 that is designed to lift 25 pounds, do you actually think JR would put a $165 TT kit in that huge 830 heli, hey man that does not compute, I sure hope JR would be smart enough (like Century was) to put a stronger TT in their 830 machine than what the little Radikal 20 has, and keep in mind that little Radikal 20 was in not way produced as a performance heli,

BTW your Radikal 20 is well over powered with that stroked 22cc in it, and I think it has held up very well considering.

I don't even understand your argument, all helis like all cars have different idem's on them, you like one you buy it, you don't like one you don't buy it, a given brand can't make every person happy
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12-13-2013 01:46 AM  5 years ago
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Phil, if you are reading, remember years ago when they compared the Century plastic 50 to the X-Cell 50, now they are doing it with JR, Century should be flatteredJim
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12-13-2013 04:24 AM  5 years ago
RM3

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your Radikal 20 is well over powered
yes it is...
the JR has an all white fuselage
yes the base model, but others have the silver blue and a yellow w/black...besides $20 worth of crylon goes a long way to fixing that issue..

What I'm trying to get at is the Condor for its price should at least include the blades if nothing else for that price...honestly if I had a choice between the two for sportflying (which is all they are good for at best when it comes to aerobatics), the GSR is a better value...as price wise you at least get the cost of the blades covered and some of the engine...And with JR Americas comming online parts should get way way easier to find here.

I just don't get the mark up compared to the GSR.

this Condor reminds me of the whole G20 fiasco when guys purchased kits for $600 and later HW sold them for $200...

But I will wait for my final thought when Both the Condor and the GSR are compared to side by side in the flesh...as soon as I can find someone with deep enough pockets AND Century to start selling thier new Condor.
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12-13-2013 01:17 PM  5 years ago
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wow only 1 guy left willing to stand up for Century
Century is history, gone, Kappuut, obsolete.
Anyone still buying their junk deserves what they get
Maybe hobby king could be the new distributor.
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12-13-2013 10:56 PM  5 years ago
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well I'll stand up for MY 2 century Rads...granted I put about $2000 of work into them after loosing an additional $2000 worth of crap like blades, clutches, frame parts, servos, mufflers in crashes due to in flight failures

But no one is willing to pay me squat if I planned on selling them, might as well fly them until they crash and just save the electronics and engines for other projects...A heli that sits on the shelf is a waste of a heli...

with a few more spare parts I could make a quad gasser...4 20cc engines running 16X6 props...should make for one very big, very loud quad. wonder if that would work?
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12-13-2013 11:07 PM  5 years ago
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I feel for ya RM3 I got a pile not worth anything anymore
Your Quad idea just might work
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12-13-2013 11:10 PM  5 years ago
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wow only 1 guy left willing to stand up for Century
Century is history, gone, Kappuut, obsolete.
Anyone still buying their junk deserves what they get
Maybe hobby king could be the new distributor.
There are plenty of people willing to stand up to Century, including myself. You can go onto any other forum site and easily discover that Century is very much alive.

Unfortunately there are those who wish to behave as trolls. They go out of their way to warp, and distort any statement someone makes to pass it off as another blow towards century without any constructive or coherent input.

Nothing in particular against Runryder, but it appears most century pilots do not post here.

I'll post my opinion based on my own experience and move on. The trolls can carry on un heard and reside on my ignore list.
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01-15-2014 01:45 AM  5 years ago
RM3

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well this puppy is now available...anybody dared to buy one yet?showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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01-16-2014 12:40 AM  5 years ago
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This machine is definitely very ugly.
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01-16-2014 02:15 AM  5 years ago
Carey Shurley

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the condor is really a commercial vehicle for commercial purposes. Compared to an "octocopter" or some of the other rigs that people are using for commercial purposes I think more people would prefer the look of the fuselage.

my understanding is that the underlying chassis has been redesigned, I have not seen it.

I did hear somebody ask about the flat platform on the tail boom. Its for a GPS antenna like the Ace One or Ace Waypoint
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09-11-2014 04:09 PM  5 years ago
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Hi Guys

Did someone bought one Condor??

Im planning to build one just for flying around. Love the size!!

Could you please advice me with the best engine/muffler for my aplication? Im interested more in Endurance and smooth operation than power.

maybe up to 2 kg in aditional equipment than oem TOW

Also wath are the best servos looking for long duration and reliability
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09-11-2014 07:24 PM  5 years ago
Carey Shurley

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if you're looking for duration flying, you might consider adding an onboard generator. Since that model uses the PUH motor I think the Jewel is probably the only generator that will fit relatively easily however you will sacrifice your top start to use it. However for your purpose you probably dont' care

if you do use a generator, then you can consider an EI engine such as the HWC 27 because you need battery power for the EI system. If you do NOT use a generator then I'd recommend you get a balanced G260 from either BH Hanson or TRM Powerb as both use magnetos and will run forever as long as they have fuel in them.

Look at the Century Commercial "UAV" muffler. It quieter than the torpedo mufflers and will bolt right on the model. Others like the RJX are less expensive but won't fit on the model without a spacer that you may have to make yourself

A lot of the mechanical parts on the condor are right off the Radikal 30V2 so once you get it setup and run in they should work fine

the model expects some sort of payload so if you don't have one it will be tail heavy

Servos - so many out there. I'd suggest brushless servos as they care less about vibration. Everybody makes'em, Futaba, JR, Airtronics, MKS, BK and I'm sure others.
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09-12-2014 12:34 AM  5 years ago
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Did someone bought one Condor??
well yes actually they do,, back a while I was told by some one (that is not and was not a Century rep, but know's who made the purchase) that a few people bought a "lot" of new Condor kits including accessories and parts totaling over $20,000 in one sale,,

yee-up I was told this a while a go "by a person that know's who made the purchase", kept my mouth shut all this time cause I found it rather humorous to me that no one else knew about this

so yes people are buying these kits
lot; "a parcel of articles offered as one item"
Jim
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09-12-2014 05:22 PM  5 years ago
RM3

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well if you do the math and make a guess of all the "accessories" (which would be electronics, engines, exhausts, blades)they purchased... at $20,000, chances are that they only purchased maybe 4 kits. no big deal quantity wise. as for spare parts, heliword website only lists 3, a swash, and two pinions. So my guess is that the additional kits may have been for spare parts.

how much you wana bet they never buy another one again?

honestly, if you want an 800 class gasser, youre probably better off with an Airstar, the kit alone is cheaper by more than 60% and more than likely better made. You can have a mongoose up an flying for the cost of just the barebones Condor kit.

whovever purchased those Century kits "lot" didn't do thier homework
showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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09-13-2014 01:20 AM  5 years ago
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the answer to your reply is simple, you are just conjuring, because you have problems you think every one else should too, you are talking about a heli you know nothing about, you do not even know some one that has flown one Jim
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09-14-2014 03:46 AM  5 years ago
RM3

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Just cause you "heard" from somebody that says he knows somebody that purchased a "lot" says nothing about the performance of the bird whatsoever. "I know somebody who knows somebody else" is about a vague as you can get and really has no value info wise.

I also doubt you have flown one too, and if you have, you must have been so excited about its perfromance that you posted vids of it all over the place huh?

We all know how many thousands of "mall helis" have sold. Does that mean they are the best... absolutely not.

Now consider that HeliWorld (centuries only parts vendor BTW) only stocks 3 (2 if you consider that the two of the items are pinions) items as spare parts for it... does that sound to you like a success story or a kit you should consider, one that has literally no parts support?

besides at least I have tried to improve on Centuries design of thier homely G20 and to some extent thier G30 by making better parts, whether or not they are successfull or not.

What have you done besides being a cheerleader for century?
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09-14-2014 04:01 AM  5 years ago
turboomni

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This sounds to me like the old Japanese warrior stuck on an island for 50 years that never heard the war was OVER!!LOL!!! Very sad indeed...Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them
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09-15-2014 12:10 AM  5 years ago
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RM3, you are absolutely ridicules !!

you are the one that clamed> ""youre probably better off with an Airstar""

how do you know

I NEVER clamed to know how well they fly, never clamed I flew one, but maybe I did, I only replied a 2nd time because of your ridicules clame

helicam1980 asked if anyone bought the kits, really sorry there RM3, realy sorry for knowing some one that know's the people that bought the kits

unlike you I do not clame, I know.. again, this here, your reply is part of the problem with his hobby, another problem is doing somthing like putting a 90 engine in a 50 size air frame and then complain because the heli will not hold up
This sounds to me like the old Japanese warrior stuck on an island for 50 years that never heard the war was OVER!!LOL!!! Very sad indeed...
yeeaa and MA was defeated
Jim
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