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10-10-2013 08:45 PM  4 years agoPost 1
YSRRider

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I'm new to this aspect of the hobby........ Last time I was on here poking around, there were guys talking about increasing the range of your radio.... up to 30 miles? Is this correct? How is this done? Where to get the equipment? ballpark prices? any other info? I'd like to set my gasser up for FPV.

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10-10-2013 09:46 PM  4 years agoPost 2
bkervaski

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A lot of our local FPV guys are using other frequencies/bands for really long distances.

2.4 actually shoots pretty far but is line of sight sensitive so obstacles will generally get you before distance does. For example, you're on the ground, your FPV rig goes over the trees, signal diminished, etc.

I've sent my hex several miles out with 2.4 without problems, even been pretty lucky with video on 5.8 at this distance (DJI Wookong, DJI 5.8 Video TX, Futaba RX).

Keep that thing away from people and property.

Edit: Frankly, a good starter FPV rig would be a light foam airplane or a multirotor.

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10-11-2013 06:53 AM  4 years agoPost 3
YSRRider

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can a fail/safe be setup on a gasser to bring it home or land it if it losses signal?

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10-11-2013 12:25 PM  4 years agoPost 4
Ace Dude

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Perhaps you may want to review AMA Document #550

First Person View (FPV) Operations

  

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10-11-2013 01:48 PM  4 years agoPost 5
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I've not pushed the range of my 8FG/6208SB combo, but it's solid so far out to approx. a mile or so. That's with the aircraft at altitudes sufficient to maintain LOS contact between the TX and RX. I've been told about 1.5 miles is the max reliable range.

You have to go to an "LRS" system if you want to go further than that. This basically replaces the 2.4ghz radio link with something else, using a different TX and RX. You plug the TX module into your transmitter somehow (trainer port or etc) and replace the RX in your a/c with the RX that comes with the LRS system.

Most of these that I've seen operate on the 430mhz band, so an amateur radio license is required to use them. I have no idea if they meet spectral purity requirements for use in the amateur bands or if the emission types are even legal - I haven't really researched them in this regard, so don't know specifics.

To do return-to-home or other attitude control, you have to replace the controller with something else that has those capabilities. Naza makes one (pricey!) and even Align has a controller with GPS and attitude control (cheaper but quality?).

I just fly a conventional FBL controller on my Whiplash (Microbeast) and have learned to fly without attitude control (OMG hair raising at first! But doable). And I just don't get lost when I leave the pattern (full scale navigation methods help here a little bit).

A gasser would be an ideal FPV platform I think because of the super-long flight times..... Sounds like a great idea!

LS

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10-11-2013 02:04 PM  4 years agoPost 6
wrongler

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Not sure, but AMA 550 is for AMA fields and members.
General public is a bit different.

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10-11-2013 02:12 PM  4 years agoPost 7
Ace Dude

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Not sure, but AMA 550 is for AMA fields and members.
General public is a bit different.
FCC & FAA rules would apply to anyone within the FCC & FAA's jurisdiction.

AMA rules apply to AMA members.

  

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10-11-2013 05:41 PM  4 years agoPost 8
ErichF

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AMA rules apply to AMA members.
Weelllll...ONLY if you expect to make a claim on the insurance.

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10-11-2013 05:52 PM  4 years agoPost 9
bkervaski

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can a fail/safe be setup on a gasser to bring it home or land it if it losses signal?
Yes, with the higher end systems, but this won't help if you have a mechanical or battery failure.

If your battery fails your RX can't put the throttle into low position, your heli (all 15 pounds of it at with blades going at 1500+ RPM) will crash into little Timmy's new basket of puppies at his backyard birthday party.

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10-11-2013 05:57 PM  4 years agoPost 10
JKos

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If your battery fails your RX can't put the throttle into low position
Not true with proper throttle servo selection and a return spring.

- John

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10-11-2013 05:59 PM  4 years agoPost 11
ErichF

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will crash into little Timmy's new basket of puppies at his backyard birthday party.
Every time someone flies a gasser - a puppy dies.

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10-11-2013 06:36 PM  4 years agoPost 12
Ace Dude

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Weelllll...ONLY if you expect to make a claim on the insurance.
That's a good thing! This way our dues and insurance benefits aren't consumed by those who cannot follow the directions.

  

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10-12-2013 04:12 AM  4 years agoPost 13
HansAuf

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Have you ever flown a heli FPV? It's probably one of the hardest things RC that I have ever done. You're better off with a multirotor or plank.

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10-12-2013 11:26 AM  4 years agoPost 14
unclejane

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Have you ever flown a heli FPV? It's probably one of the hardest things RC that I have ever done. You're better off with a multirotor or plank.
Speaking of that, you can get reasonably close to how a FBL heli flies FPV with manual mode on a multi/Naza. At least, I started using manual with my F550/Naza-M V2 the other day and was pleasantly surprised to find it very similar to my FBL helis. It's almost exactly like my trex 700 but maybe with a bent tail rotor pushrod and a 4.8v NiMH batt on the collective lol. But the pitch/roll response is virtually identical to both the trex and my Whiplash E while FPV.

I was pleasantly right at home almost immediately with manual mode when I finally enabled it after flying my helis FPV for approx a month at this point. Heli FPV a trial by fire, I agree, but I now think a good way to prep for it is a good multi in manual mode.

I fly my F550 in manual mode virtually all the time now....

LS

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10-13-2013 01:55 AM  4 years agoPost 15
YSRRider

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I have alot of time flying FPV on simulator.

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10-14-2013 12:52 PM  4 years agoPost 16
JRjoe

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Google "dragon link" for the long range equipment.


JRjoe.....
Indoor plumbing??? No, we don't need that!!!

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10-15-2013 10:29 PM  4 years agoPost 17
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i dont see anywhere on the website what the range is on a dragon link and I have gotten no reply from emailing them.

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10-16-2013 01:38 AM  4 years agoPost 18
Shawn Behrens

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DL range

I believe in ideal conditions a stock DL system can yield approx. 18 miles. For most applications the DL will surpass the VTX capabilities.

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10-16-2013 01:38 AM  4 years agoPost 19
Shawn Behrens

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DL range

I believe in ideal conditions a stock DL system can yield approx. 18 miles. For most applications the DL will surpass the VTX capabilities.

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10-16-2013 03:07 AM  4 years agoPost 20
YSRRider

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I read that the video can have a shorter range. How do you boost that?

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