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10-11-2013 05:46 PM  4 years agoPost 61
michael88997

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I didn't know that E6 could only swing 515s, different animal than the 550SX which can swing 560s
yeah its slightly bigger than the goblin 500 so not a true 550.. but almost as light as my 450L :/
I lean towards whatever has a better deal in the classifieds..
haha that is a good way.. I may lean to whoever has a holiday deal on a website

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10-11-2013 05:54 PM  4 years agoPost 62
Craigdieslemac

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Used heli's are usually just as good as new, plus I like helping someone out in the community.. I haven't bought a new heli yet as a matter of fact.. every single one I have ever owned has been used.

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10-12-2013 12:24 AM  4 years agoPost 63
icanfly

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Blade 500, I was wondering about that one. Too many plastic parts. Ahh, the pro version has all the aluminum, $750 or so bucks bind and fly.

I'm going to be in the market for a 500 this winter, maybe for christmas. Will the Blade make a decent heli or are the parts expensive? What needs upgrading in your opinion, just the esc? Motor, skids, any tail parts, blades are of the best imho, servos?

The DT 520 looks pretty decent actually.

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10-12-2013 01:24 AM  4 years agoPost 64
sseppala

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Best 550
I have Logo 550sx, and had number of Trex 550's.
In general I would say the 550' s have been a disappointment. I liked the idea of one battery pack but the Logo 550 sx is not even close to the Logo 600 sx that I have. Performance and flight times aren't even close! Go for the 600 you won't be sorry.
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10-12-2013 08:37 AM  4 years agoPost 65
TomC

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Just my opinion but my Blade 550x is one of the nicest heli's I have ever owned and flown. At ~$500 for the kit, including a very good 6s motor and 550mm CF fbl mainblades it's very good value imho. Parts are easy to get and HH support is second to none.

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10-12-2013 02:43 PM  4 years agoPost 66
KevinB

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sseppala,

What size lipos are you running in your 600sx and 550sx? What are the headspeeds and flight times in both ?

Thanks,

KevinB

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10-12-2013 03:46 PM  4 years agoPost 67
GScott

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I run 6s 5000 packs in my 550sx. With a HS of 2300 I get about 5 minutes of big air, fast tic toc type sport flying. I could get more since I usually only put about 60-65% back into the packs. The weight of the 550sx helps a great deal. It weighs at least a pound less than my friend's Trex 550 and 2 pounds lighter than the E5. Despite its reputation it crashes fairly inexpensively thanks to the plastic frames and main grips.

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10-12-2013 09:12 PM  4 years agoPost 68
michael88997

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Not looking too good for the jr e6, the futaba servo connectors are out of stock and the stores said mid feb before they get them...

I was looking into a trex 600 pro cause for less money than the goblin 500 I can set one up.. All I would need is a bigger psu.. Decisions decisions

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10-13-2013 12:21 AM  4 years agoPost 69
GScott

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Make sure you research the 600 Pro. It has some issues. The tail ratio sucks so you need to run the head speed close to 2500 or it blows out. You can only use the Align motor or KDE unless you want to space out the servos. The one way is crap and cannot keep up with the power if the heli. It has the same crappy DFC head as well. I owned one last summer and the Logo or E5 is a major step up in every way.

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10-13-2013 02:11 AM  4 years agoPost 70
michael88997

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Yeah I saw those issues, saw the blade 600x but I just can't get myself to buy a big blade, plus I think they look weird. I really like the jr and rcjapan has the futaba links. May just have to order from there until Americas support gets setup

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10-13-2013 03:31 AM  4 years agoPost 71
BobOD

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The weight of the 550sx helps a great deal. It weighs at least a pound less than my friend's Trex 550
I hope that's just an exaggeration. How much does a 550sx weigh?
My Trex 550 weighed 2300g without the pack.

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10-13-2013 05:52 AM  4 years agoPost 72
TomC

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I'm certainly not bragging but my Blade 550x w/6s5000 turnigy pack = 820g) weighs in at 3.45 kg total flying weight. I know, almost as much as some guys will 'say' their 10s3700 logo 600's weigh.

Probably does not help that I have 60g metal geared servos, external gryphon quasar ubec w/flag switch, and a brick of a 220g Kontronik 120/200 Powerjazz installed, lol!

At a gov'd ~2350 hs and +/- 13 deg col. pitch it fly's great. Soft/Med 3d for 5 min drains 75-80% and motor/esc/batteries are warm (just above body temp), not hot.

It's a big 550 heli (makes the trex 550dcf look puny imho) and it looks a lot more like a 600 heli in the sky. Just my opinion but it fly's about the same as my good old (now r.i.p.) 10s3700 Trex 600e (w/Kontronik Jazz 55-10-32 esc and tango 45-08 motor btw).

I'm sure that the Logo 550sx is a great heli and I personally had a very hard time deciding between it and the Blade 550x. A lot less plastic-fantastic (albeit, I know, very good Mikado plastics), TT tail (I know, nothing really bad with a good/soft Mikado belt and maybe a little electrical grounding), and a bit cheaper spares supply won me over.

I'm sure I would have been happy with the Logo 550sx as well. Like all Logo's, they fly great. I have owned a few and still keep a 6s logo14 in my vintage fleet (plus an old 10s Ion-x).

I'm also sure that the Trex 550 dfc would be a good choise as well. However, no way I'm buying into DFC (even compass's better version of it). I simply do not feel comfortable with these control systems (right or wrong, my choice right?).

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10-13-2013 06:32 AM  4 years agoPost 73
Funky Trex

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Gscott is referring to my 550. It is a stretched Align v2, running a main and rx pack. It has aftermarket servos, a bigger motor, and 556/96 blades. We weighed my 550, a buddy's e5 and GScott's 550sx was a little under a pound lighter than my 550 and a bit under 2 pounds lighter than the e5. Not an even match up since they all have different electronics setups, but it did give us a general idea of what the helis weigh. We run higher headspeeds on the e5 & 550 v2 but Gscott's Logo looks just as powerfull at a lower headspeed.

Much, much quieter in the air too

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10-13-2013 10:19 AM  4 years agoPost 74
DannyvG

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Not looking too good for the jr e6, the futaba servo connectors are out of stock and the stores said mid feb before they get them...
So you are going for the BLS153? I would not like plastic gears...
Why not one of the JR servos?

But nevertheless, Fastlad has them http://www.fast-lad.co.uk/store/pro...oducts_id=25063

and also the shop where I buy my JR parts has them
http://www.euro-rchelicopters.com/e...9/jr-61657_533/
Just contact them to inquire for option regarding shipping to the US.

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10-13-2013 02:50 PM  4 years agoPost 75
michael88997

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So you are going for the BLS153? I would not like plastic gears...
Why not one of the JR servos?
But nevertheless, Fastlad has them http://www.fast-lad.co.uk/store/pro...oducts_id=25063
and also the shop where I buy my JR parts has them
http://www.euro-rchelicopters.com/e...9/jr-61657_533/
Just contact them to inquire for option regarding shipping to the US.
Ah ok didn't know they have them, rcjapan also has them and if I got a kit from there with shipping it's still 40 bucks less than from horizon, not planning on those servos, probably going with the mks ones but they will use that same adaptor

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10-13-2013 06:01 PM  4 years agoPost 76
BobOD

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Well, my 550 was 6lb 12oz with the pack so yes, a pound would certainly be noticeable.
I had 520's on it and got rid of it because I prefer the 600 and it just wasn't different enough in size for me to bother with it. Just personal preference there is all.

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10-13-2013 06:42 PM  4 years agoPost 77
Funky Trex

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My Align 550 is 7 pounds 7 ounces with a 5000mah 65c flight pack, 2200 mah 30c RX pack, KDE motor and HV servos all around. Definately not a lightweight It is somewhat comparable to the other helis I listed since they are all set up with 550+ mains and 95+ tail blades although with all 3 helis running different electronics, it is only a rough estimate of the difference.

I have an older Logo 500 3d. With the same 5000 65c flight pack, aftermarket canopy, 1900mah RX pack, Align BEC, 550 SAB blades and 85 or 90mm tail blades it weighs 6 pounds 12 ounces. It is hard to compare weights on a bunch of helis set up completely different, I was just giving a general idea where our 550s weigh in although it was probably not much help.

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10-15-2013 04:27 AM  4 years agoPost 78
Chris.C

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My JR E6 550 gives me 6 minutes in idle up doing big air aerobatics with a 5000mAH 6S 45C pack. It comes down with around 30% capacity left. Mine does not have RX pack, everything on board powered by the main battery.

It is a combo set meaning it comes with all JR electronics and it represent good value for money, IMHO.

It flies so well that I end up bought all the upgrades for it, including the metal servo gear sets.

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10-21-2013 05:00 PM  4 years agoPost 79
michael88997

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Thanks everyone for the input. I still feel like a kid in a candy shop and can't decide.. I have compiled a list of pros and cons

Jr e6 550
Pros:
extremely light weight
best performance and flight time
has the "different" appeal cause not too popular

Cons:
parts support currently

Goblin 500:
Pros:
best lookin IMO
Parts support

Cons:
Flight time and performance less than e6

Logo 550sx
Pros:
Bigger heli than the other 2
less performance but probably more flight time

Cons:
I just sold a 500 that my friend still owes money on
Really looking for something a little smaller

so the jr is my #1 choice, but something about the goblin looks just keep pulling me in

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10-21-2013 05:08 PM  4 years agoPost 80
Ronald Thomas

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You can't compare those helis side by side, they are all different sizes and classes....Go with the one you "like" the best, you will be happier for it.....ROn

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