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09-19-2013 02:37 PM  5 years agoPost 1
Craigdieslemac

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I have been watching videos on autos.. practiced a few baby auto's, but I have not done an actual auto until today and not of my choosing. Flying the Goblin 700 around and the timer on my remote was ticking down..(set to 5 min Gens Ace 5300mah 60C) so I jammed up the head speed to do a couple collective pumps.. and on the up stroke I heard it.. soft cutoff. So with my commander and a PJ watching me, I auto'd in from about 50ft. Thank God for Smack Talk RC, i dropped collective to just below zero and flared out thinking I got this. I did have it, but she took a small bounce. Bent a skid stiffener and stripped out the rear skid mount on one side. I have both so no big deal. I only bounced slightly, but she is a little heavy I guess..
Main batts were at 3.8 per cell and receiver was at 8 (2s), I guess the pumps drew enough to drop to the soft cutoff point of 3.7.. Think I'll lower that and keep my timer at 5 min..

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09-19-2013 03:13 PM  5 years agoPost 2
Heli_Splatter

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First Actual Required Autorotation
Its been about 6 weeks since my first emergency auto. Trex600 motor cut through the motor wiring (yeah I know, stupid) and left me without blade power. Fortunately, I had receiver power.

Just coming out of a 180 stall turn, and perfect alignment with field. I just auto'd like I had done hundreds of times on the sim. Set it down like a pro and cleaned out my pants. I was so excited. I have not practiced autos at the field so I was like a 6yo on Christmas day.

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09-19-2013 03:36 PM  5 years agoPost 3
Craigdieslemac

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I didnt even have time to crap my pants.. I didnt even have time to say oh sh!t! I just reacted. Thankfully when it comes to flight or fight... I am hard wired to fight, so I just auto'd it in, as compared to crashing it in. I think I could be way better at it, there is just not any soft places to land here, everything is rocks/pavement/AM2 matting.. so if the auto isnt perfect.. something is probably breaking. My 550X is already packed and shipped home, it has plastic skids, and I have done baby auto's with it, but it is nothing like the 700, which auto's way better due to the weight. The 550 was a little more forgiving though because of the skid composition. Either way, I am going to start practicing at the field when I go home, into some grass.. at least it is soft.

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09-19-2013 03:41 PM  5 years agoPost 4
Tyler

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Congratulations.

This is your calling to realize any pilot with a decent model should practice auto rotations regularly. Autos are a basic part of flying that is often ignored. Be careful, you may get hooked on how fun they quickly become.

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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09-19-2013 03:57 PM  5 years agoPost 5
Craigdieslemac

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I am just getting used to the way the Goblin flies, testing its limits and such. Thats one step I had not gotten to. But thanks, I am going to start practicing them when I have a softer place to land for sure. it was not as scary as I thought it would be, just surprising.

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09-19-2013 04:03 PM  5 years agoPost 6
Stephen Born

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I learned how to auto on my 450.

Now my 800 never comes down when I auto.

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09-19-2013 08:16 PM  5 years agoPost 7
Heli_Splatter

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Need more practice on the sim before I do a lot of field autos. I will use my least expensive heli.

100 posts.. senior heliman... now I can stop being a post whore for a while.

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09-19-2013 08:21 PM  5 years agoPost 8
Jeff polisena

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Just remember to still fly it down ,some forget they still can control heli without power .

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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09-19-2013 08:58 PM  5 years agoPost 9
Craigdieslemac

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I just kept it level to the ground.. With some negative.. Then flared out at the end

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09-20-2013 01:09 AM  5 years agoPost 10
TMoore

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Autorotations from different approach vectors are a good thing to learn.

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09-20-2013 03:14 PM  5 years agoPost 11
Craigdieslemac

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After further review, the motor pulley came loose on the pinion.. hows that for bad luck.. she was on there with 2 set screws and locked in with loctite. No soft cutoff... just no power.. lol.

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09-20-2013 03:44 PM  5 years agoPost 12
qraptor

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Ouch.

You did well to bring her in.

It fits with your initial description. All that torque and nowhere to go

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09-20-2013 03:50 PM  5 years agoPost 13
Craigdieslemac

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Yea.. I thought I did well on a soft cutoff.. nope.. I did ok on a no power situation. I didn't discover it until I went to go fly again today.. hit idle up and no blade spin.. shut it off.. I figured it out really quickly..

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09-21-2013 03:44 AM  5 years agoPost 14
Gary Jenkins

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Autoing with a 700 is simple child’s play from any altitude, try a 450 from a 3 to 4 foot altitude at all angle with zero helicopter and wind speed and then you can brag. Good luck. Breaking, bending, scratching, etc. damage is a declaration of a crash. Bounces with no associated cost and or damage is a good landing.

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09-21-2013 10:21 PM  5 years agoPost 15
qraptor

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Bounces with no associated cost and or damage is a good landing.
Agreed

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09-21-2013 10:31 PM  5 years agoPost 16
Mark Dean

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Once you start purposefully doing autos it's quite addictive. I run at least one entire flight of autos every time I'm at the field. It becomes a great challenge trying to land on a mark. When it's a horrible day for the plankers, it's an awesome day for autos!
+ 1 on the 450 - it's a challenge to auto these babies and I bail out often.

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09-21-2013 10:36 PM  5 years agoPost 17
Craigdieslemac

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I don't plan on ever owning a 450.. I have a few micro's.. MSR, MCPX, 130x... Then a Blade SR... That is the largest "small" helo I have.. The other 2 are a 550x and the Goblin 700. My next helo will be the Diabolo 800+.

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09-21-2013 10:44 PM  5 years agoPost 18
Mark Dean

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Not familiar with the Diablo but all your other birds minus the little fellows are great machines to auto. Do you have a link for the Diablo?

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09-21-2013 10:56 PM  5 years agoPost 19
Craigdieslemac

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It's made by the company Minicopter in Germany. It is imported by Peak Aircraft. They are amazing works of German engineering.
Here is their website
http://Www.peakaircraft.com

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09-22-2013 02:08 AM  5 years agoPost 20
Einzelganger

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I lost my tail rotor and autoed in my NX4 @ 2500 rpm h/s. Next time I'm gonna hit throttle hold and be less exciting. Two trips to the LHS (350 miles total) and $200.00 later, I flew it again today and it's perfect.
Note to self: Locktite the set screws in the tail rotor.

Wayne

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