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09-21-2013 11:42 PM  5 years agoPost 201
hindsight

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Will a simple chain link fence taller than the heli operator cause radio interference.., I wonder if it would restrict visibility too much.. ? I thought an aluminum picked fence section might be the answer, but now I'm thinking it might not allow me to see my heli that good... Now I'm thinking sports rope catch netting or chicken wire,.. I really one start doing my thing a little lower and a little closer so I will need to build something.. I fly on private property so it has to be portable...

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09-22-2013 06:02 AM  5 years agoPost 202
Sam2b

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The job of a spotter
I've not seen a spotter be so helpful. I always see the spotter merely watch the pilot's heli while standing next to him. Sorry, that is not spotting. I guess it feels cool to stand there? This is a relevant subject here, and bothers me it's not talked about more formally in an instructional way.

For example: when I spot, I am watching to the left, right, and front of the field for the pilot to be clear of any concerns not seen or heard.
  1. The spotter informs the pilot to avoid the area of concern. Example: someone is on the field to the left retrieving a heli, or at a crash site picking up pieces.
  2. The spotter firmly reminds the pilot when they are breaking rules and guidelines, especially for safety. Example: keep further away from the flight line, please.
  3. etc
So, if you are spotting, do your job.

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09-22-2013 06:09 AM  5 years agoPost 203
dodgeguy44

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Having a chain link fence to stand behind is a great idea! We have them at our field and it is mandatory to use them. I feel a bit insecure when I'm at a field that does not have a decent protective barrier.

If my wife had another job I'd have more Helicopters

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09-22-2013 09:52 AM  5 years agoPost 204
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I'm all for safety, but this gay liberal hide behind a sofa mentality is going to get everything bigger than an mcpx banned. Just use some common sense when you fly, personally I blame the professionals in this hobby, they fly way too close to themselves and then the world sees this as the norm and copies it. Just the other day I saw a photo on the RR video page banner with about 5 folks including the promo girls, standing behind a guy flying tic tocs at head height 15 ft or so out, this is what we need to stop.

Warning...This hobby is very addictive and may damage your wealth

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09-22-2013 12:13 PM  5 years agoPost 205
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^^^+1

I can possibly see some type of protection for spectators, and maybe even the pit area where someone might be working on a heli and not paying attention to what is happening on the field, but as pilots we just need to use a little more common sense...IMHO

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09-22-2013 12:40 PM  5 years agoPost 206
hindsight

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Are they really gonna ban rc helis.....really doubt it... Most rc,plane fields really don't like em already.. I think they would welcome any device that reduces liability.. Most people don't have the skills to require a flight barrier or cage.. They fly far away and high because there skills don't permit anything else.. Now the very best pilots fly low and close.. There less like to crash into themselves although we saw thatnitmcan and did happen.. For a guy like me that's in the middle near as skills are concerned would benefit from a barrier.. Then I could practice a little harder and a little closer... Each club will decide for it self.

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09-22-2013 01:39 PM  5 years agoPost 207
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accident
Has anyone that was actually there chimed in on this matter as to exactly what happened?? So far I heard it just dropped out of the sky. If that was the case and it was directly over his head shame on him, because the first rules at our field is you don't fly over your head and you don't fly behind yourself.

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09-22-2013 03:51 PM  5 years agoPost 208
icanfly

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this gay liberal hide behind a sofa mentality
In all matter of facts you could be a millimeter away from the blades and not get hurt. But we don't go around with a lawn mower or weed hog without some protective equipment. People have been warned to wear it or else a failure and bodily harm may result, and it does.

It's great guys express such amazing feats as piro flips, tic tocs, hurricanes, funnels, whatever, nice and up close and personal knowing that death and or serious injury is only a moment away, WHY TEMPT THE ODDS? This is what the argument is all about, not some patsy arse reject cowering in fear response to a tragedy. We're talking cold hard facts. A 700 is huge and needs breathing room, from you 'cause you never know. Flying shouldn't be a crap shoot, that goes for full size as well.
Will a simple chain link fence taller than the heli operator cause radio interference..
no, unless it is electrically charged. It would have to be grounded properly if made with chain link. Good detail worth considering.

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09-22-2013 04:28 PM  5 years agoPost 209
rexxigpilot

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Look up Farady cage. It is a device that stops electromagnetic radio waves from entering of exiting. A tall chain link fence would make a very good one. Not a good safety solution for RC.

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09-22-2013 04:37 PM  5 years agoPost 210
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I'm all for safety, but this gay liberal hide behind a sofa mentality is going to get everything bigger than an mcpx banned.
Oh, the name calling.

Most of us, conservative, liberal, straight, gay, are secure in our selves, and do not need to stand close to a flying 700 to prove anything. But if that is what it takes to prove your manliness, by all means, do whatever you need to.

With apologies for the above, lets not turn this thread into a political rant.
no, unless it is electrically charged. It would have to be grounded properly if made with chain link. Good detail worth considering.
Metal or carbon fiber for that matter, does not need to be charged to interfere with radio reception. This is why we do not want our receivers to be in the shadow of the carbon frame.

But it is a good detail worth considering. The freq of 2.4 GHz has a wavelength of 12.5 cm (about 5 inches), so it is likely that a standard chain link fence will reduce range.

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09-22-2013 04:44 PM  5 years agoPost 211
hindsight

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8 bucks a piece light and real strong
Very visible


Made of steel and cheap... Wire the together like you see in the picture.. Stand behind and fly

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09-22-2013 04:58 PM  5 years agoPost 212
hindsight

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Check it out. Home Depot

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09-22-2013 05:04 PM  5 years agoPost 213
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barrier
just flew today...i just drove my car to the flightline...had a fullface helmet on.flew from the driverseat....never got out of the car.......now im ready for 3d.......

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09-22-2013 05:06 PM  5 years agoPost 214
hindsight

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Yea your right the whole safety cage thing is bull junk.. I'm just gonna fly 100 feet out and 100 high... O joy, what fun.. I'd rather fly hard, worry free behind 14 dollars worth of light steel wire.. I bet my skills get better really quick

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09-22-2013 08:03 PM  5 years agoPost 215
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....a cage would be a sign that you are outta control with the model......fai pilots dont have this issue....come on....cage really....control your model fly within your means... respect your model as you would a chain saw..being an instructor at our local club...if i saw someone setting up a cage on the flightline..i would not take a student up to fly....i would stand back and state to would be.... student....stay clear..unsafe pilot..

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09-22-2013 08:06 PM  5 years agoPost 216
es1co2bar3

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I m chill in my flights since what happen to dude, was unclear
as to how he got hit.
I dont do hurricane or funnel from the difficulty angle anymore.
I was thinking maybe that what he was doing'.....
I think that the only way the heli can come after you.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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09-22-2013 08:09 PM  5 years agoPost 217
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That's why I fly on private property... Tired of listening to all the sheep at the model clubs... They go along with anything just to fit in.. screw them.. i do what i want...also, Anything can happen, especially when flying 3d with man made machines... My screen will take just minutes to setup and now I can fly closer. I just watched Nick Maxwells latest flight on here... Holy cow...the nature of 3d is out of control looking and really fast and a lot times really close.. Roman was an expert pilot...Expert level..flying normal everyday 3d, how it should be flown... Why stop doing a certain trick you like... Just build a barrier.. I've bought the pieces to mine.. Gonna figure out the best way to set it up... The hole are so big it don't obstruct the view at all.. The wire is strong steel.. Now way a heli gets through.. I just need a good way to secure it to the earth now..

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09-22-2013 09:53 PM  5 years agoPost 218
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Yea your right the whole safety cage thing is bull junk.. I'm just gonna fly 100 feet out and 100 high... O joy, what fun.. I'd rather fly hard, worry free behind 14 dollars worth of light steel wire.. I bet my skills get better really quick
Then what happens when you don't have the comfort of your fence to hide behind?

Why not just fly where you are comfortable and not extra close when you have your fence?

What about the tens of thousands of people who fly every week around the world with nothing but air between them and a heli?

The cage will give you a false sense of security.

Fly safe, be reasonable and you won't get hurt.

Since Romans accident was a freak one, what if through one of those large holes in the fence a blade comes whizzing in and whacks you?

There really is no difference as a freak accident is exactly that, freak.

But in the end, if you like it then so be it.

Have Rotors, Will Fly!

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09-22-2013 10:50 PM  5 years agoPost 219
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I agree, no need to be paranoid. Fly within your comfort level and keep things at a safe distance. If you don't have a lot of room and want some barrier then nothing is stopping you. It was a freak accident and a wake up call at the same time.

I'm glad hindsight picked out Nick M's recent flying, all I can say is WOW, that's incredible and he didn't fly so close it could hurt him. Te 700-800 size is where there's going to be a lot of momentum in that whirly bird.

You have to exercise extreme caution when the heli is coming at you, and always do your pre-flight.

Just got off my backside from watching GOLDEN EYE with the Tiger heli in it, lol. Get that thing to 3d now would somebody, lol.

And heyo hindsight, you probably want to use a chainlink, that wide open hole mesh might not do a whole lot to stop the blades. Just don't fly close in is all. A waist high crescent shaped chain link barrier is probably all that is necessary. Never fly above yourself or behind, your orientation gets funny when you have to stretch you neck to watch it.

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09-22-2013 10:51 PM  5 years agoPost 220
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Yea the crash from nick maxwells on that bridge
Was a close one, if someone was on that bridge
That kill switch wouldn't save a thing for it happen so fast.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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