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09-06-2013 06:34 AM  4 years agoPost 1
soulrider911

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I have been reading a lot of people saying they would not use or don't trust the align regulator in an FBL heli. I just ordered a trex 600n dfc and would love some insight into this, I don't want to risk trashing a heli on a regulator

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09-06-2013 06:44 AM  4 years agoPost 2
Sergeantpilot

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Align 2 in 1
I have a 600n and had to replace the 2 in 1 because the internal switch died, no juice to the rx. Fortunately, I was doing a setup on the bench when that happened, I would not trust it. Bought a cc bec pro, and it has been flawless.

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09-06-2013 11:56 AM  4 years agoPost 3
waqr

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I threw the Align 2-1 regulator away and bought a LIFE battery instead. Much better since it eliminates the need for a regulator if you use servos rated for atleast 6V.

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09-06-2013 12:34 PM  4 years agoPost 4
rpat

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OK see now I have been using the 2 in 1 since the day I put my 600n together and it has been flawless. Go figure.

trex 700fbl cal30,minititan,, trx600fbl,trex250,logo 500,Velocity N2

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09-06-2013 01:45 PM  4 years agoPost 5
meowguy

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There are a couple of issues here. First is the basic design of the regulator which in previous years some found failed because of circuit board problems. Mine never had this issue.

The second is the amperage draw the unit can stand and I was told that it cannot handle more than 6 amps. Using a flybarless head with DFC will draw more than that and this is the reason I gave up on the 2 in 1. Yet Align is still providing this same unit with the 600N DFC means (I hope) they know more than I do. In my 600 I am using a JR Regulator which has one input and two outputs. One output goes to my AR7200BX and the other to a Switch and Glow for my glow plug. The JR Regulator is VR6015. It can sustain 15amps and burst to 25amps. Input is 6 to 8.5 volts, output 6 volts. I further step down the tail servo to 5.1 volts. Servos on flybarless machines draw more current because they have to work harder.

This is what has worked for me.

The Align regulator is a beautiful and sexy piece of engineering. It is hard to resist. But unless or until someone tells me I am wrong and here's why, I am staying with what I have.

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09-06-2013 06:23 PM  4 years agoPost 6
soulrider911

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meowguy thanks so much, you response aligns (no pun intended) with what i have read in numerous threads. Which brings me to me next question, would you be good enough to list out the parts you have so i can basically mimic your setup. I would really appreciate it.

Also I am running Align DS615 servos whcih can hande a 6v load, in that case do i even need the regulator? And could just run a life pack??
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09-06-2013 06:31 PM  4 years agoPost 7
dkshema

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I have two 600Ns. According to my scrawl on the cover page of the assembly manuals, I bought both of them in 2008. Both are still flying fine using the Align 2 N 1 that came in the kits. I have a third flying in a 700N, that is four years old. None of the three have done anything odd, unusual, or bad. They just continue to work.

The 700N and one of the 600Ns were converted to FBL two years ago, both using Align heads (no, they're not DFC, just the earlier "3G" FBL head). Both continue to operate flawlessly.

Some very early 2 N 1 regulators saw a problem with corrosion in the switch on the control unit, this I believe, was more prevalent if you lived near the coast. Ron Lund has a "how to" fix it note on his web store, you can install your own switch, jumper across the old switch, or even slobber some "Corrosion X" on it.

I've done none of the above, never had a problem

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09-06-2013 06:55 PM  4 years agoPost 8
soulrider911

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dkshema thanks mate, ya im torn, I would like to think Align would re-engineer the newer ones that come with the DFC due to the increased draw.. Im temped to try and hope for the best and just keep a close eye on it... however spending an additional 200 to ensure my heli isnt going to auger into the ground might be a good idea??

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09-10-2013 03:08 PM  4 years agoPost 9
RapRexkim

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I don't think align made junk stuff,I still use the first old 2N1 in my heli and it still work fine,may be my luck with the good one

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09-14-2013 05:25 AM  4 years agoPost 10
soulrider911

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So I'm thinking about ditching the regulator and getting a life battery and step down for the tail, but liable the life batteries I have found are 6.6v, my servos are rated at 6v? Does the extra .6 matter, would love any input

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09-14-2013 06:18 AM  4 years agoPost 11
Funky Trex

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I have had very good luck with the Align 2-1s over the past few years. Never a hiccup in multiple 50s and 2 90s. I have also had great luck with the 2 cell BECs from the Align e-kits.

My only complaint is the single output for powering the RX. I would prefer a dual power output to help spread the load although I personally have not had any problems with the single output. I am using average power servos with the Align 2-1s (9452s, 9451s, 9252s, 9256s, bls251s, etc). I don't bother trying to run 8717s or other power hungry servos on these regulators.

I do hot glue the wires where they come out of the 2-1 to help prevent them from vibrating/shaking loose over time and stressing the solder joints inside.

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09-14-2013 03:53 PM  4 years agoPost 12
Zaneman007

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It works fine
I don't know of anyone who has had an align regulator fail. I've had mine from day one, without issue. We are talking pre-flybarless days.

Now, if someone opens the box, tosses the unit in the trash and says that it's junk. What do they know about the product? Answer nothing!

If you just want someone to agree with you just say, I've never used it but, he said, she said it was junk. Has anyone else heard that rumor and do you agree with me? And be sure to ignore everyone else.

Now for the money where your mouth is part. Anyone have a free NIB align regulator that they got from one of these guys who "tossed" theirs?

There was a time when I'd ask these folks to send me their NIB junk. I even agreed to pay for postage, but to date I have nothing. I'd sure like to know where all this NIB, I threw mine in the trash stuff is going.
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09-16-2013 02:24 AM  4 years agoPost 13
BladeStrikes

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The Align reg works awesome and its the only reg I would use..The only issue with it is the switch..If you can some what solder,it takes 5mins to fix it..You can either solder another switch on it or do what I do which is solder the +/- on the board together so its always on,no different than oter regs..Just plug the battery in and go,unplug it when finished..If anyone wants the switch fixed,send it to me and i'll fix it free of charge.Just pay shipping both ways...

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09-16-2013 02:29 AM  4 years agoPost 14
BladeStrikes

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BTW,
Heres a video I made showing the switch went bad and my reg was brand new..After the video,I soldered the +/- together on the board and put a few hundred problem free flights on it..I soldered a few for locals and 3 for other members,never had a issue and there very happy..

Watch at YouTube

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09-16-2013 03:27 AM  4 years agoPost 15
ICUR1-2

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never had a problem with the 3 of them I currently owned for 3 yrs

spending time, paying attention

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09-19-2013 12:00 AM  4 years agoPost 16
mhawk

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Jonesboro Ar

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I am on the fence about running one of these myself. I'm not really into hard hard 3d. How much thrashing can it take before it starts to brown out running a beastx with the dfc combo servos on a 700. any opinions will be appreciated

mike (mhawk)

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09-19-2013 01:59 AM  4 years agoPost 17
dkshema

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The regulator is rated for 6 amps, continuous. I don't think you're going to see a brownout. The FBL unit itself is not a current hog. Neither are the receivers. That pretty much leaves the servos, and depending upon what you're using, and if you have any mechanical binding going on. A 6 amp continuous rated regulator should be quite happy.

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