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09-07-2013 03:28 PM  5 years agoPost 81
fla heli boy

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I think we'd better be proactive and come up with some solutions before Big Brother comes up with one for us. We all know how that will turn out. We'll be peeping out of a slot in a concrete bunker.
The locale where this accident happened, already has a councilman proposing stopping all flying at this park until a study/solution is arrived at.
This accident puts us on their radar....one more and they will step in. Guaranteed.
It's unfortunate, but it's the world we live in. Better to be proactive and come up with a solution that suits us and is derived by people that actually fly.

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09-07-2013 05:18 PM  5 years agoPost 82
artimus

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Till somebody comes up with something better......might i suggest something like this.

Fly Hard......Team Viagra

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09-07-2013 06:07 PM  5 years agoPost 83
Craigdieslemac

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^^^^LMAO!!

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09-07-2013 06:59 PM  5 years agoPost 84
HeliOCD

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Auto makers spend billions of dollars trying to produce safer cars, yet people still die in them.
The automobile death rate is at its lowest ever because of new safty features being developed. Being safe is not a bad thing. Its a smart thing..

Its all earth!

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09-07-2013 07:08 PM  5 years agoPost 85
hindsight

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09-07-2013 07:11 PM  5 years agoPost 86
icanfly

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Throttle Hold Automation
Is there a way to come up with a electronic device such that if the heli is within certain distance from your tx, it will automatically trigger throttle hold?
Yes there's way, but you either have to be working for the industry or be highly respected and PAID for equitable ideas, those that make lots of money for a manufacturer because they are "Special Features". They are sometimes reffered to as Patent Features.

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09-07-2013 07:27 PM  5 years agoPost 87
hindsight

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I might be over reacting but the recent events have really slowed my roll... That kid had excellent skills.. If that could happen to him it could happen to any of us.. Combine that fact with human error and the new style kits designed for high head speed and heart stopping 3d performance, this thing will prolly happen again. I feel a flying behind a perfectly see through net is the way to continue pushing the limits of 3d.. I would hate to see everyone change there flying style...I think until my net system is finished I will not fly at my full potential.. Wonder what would happen now if I showed up at the local flying site with my 700 and started doing tail slides and low funnels... Bet people would cause trouble for me... This event has changed our little heli world...at least mine...
Just a side note... That flying field in Brooklyn is used by other people in the community as a park. The have soccer games and people walking near the shore line.. I wonder if the local park dept. will continue flying at that site? It's getting harder and harder to find places to fly.. At least from my situation.

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09-07-2013 07:32 PM  5 years agoPost 88
eddiscus

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There are many safety devices that can be implemented but it still will not change the fact that we need to respect the devices we fly.

Even with all the safety devices in cars we still are talking 25,000 deaths in 2012 and so far counted slightly over 7,000 for 1st Qt. of 2013.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...in_U.S._by_year

So just keep in mind the potential our machines have and fly accordingly.

Yes our hobby is growing and we need to remind newcomers safety is to be a priority.

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09-07-2013 08:24 PM  5 years agoPost 89
Jerry K

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I can tell you it did effect my flying today and I am not a 3D pilot. But, did the ski slopes remove all trees from the ski slopes after Sonny Bono ran into one and killed himself?

Safety is a good thing but lets not over react here this was one accident. Hindsight, I will assure you right now, you will not enjoy flying behind a net designed to protect the pilot including the work required to set it up and take it down. Right now that incident is fresh in your mind but forever is a long time and memories fade.

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09-07-2013 08:33 PM  5 years agoPost 90
Jerry K

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Go out and watch a quicky 500 race, the turn counters are sitting inside an enclosure, but the pilots are standing out in the open. As they are flying, your opponents plane is flying directly at YOUR back. They do wear hard hats, but if that plane hits you square in the back at 175mph that helmet will do you no good. I cringe watching them race.

You don't see the pilots in the same enclosure that the callers are in because of the concentration required to fly at that level. You are going to have the same problem flying hard core 3D behind a net. It simply WILL NOT WORK!!!

An engineer at one of my customers sites(Dow)has a saying;

Every action has an direct oposite overreaction!!!

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09-07-2013 08:50 PM  5 years agoPost 91
Jerry K

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In that pic above I worry more about the person walking and the one sitting than the pilot. The pilot sees the heli and knows what is happening every second the others are obvious to what is happening in the next 5 seconds. That will be the next change we will be seeing.

In Houston there are 2 flying sites that have chain link fencing between the flight line and the pits. Our pits at Ft.Bend Helis has a completly covered pit area that has been hit by 2 flying objects.

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09-07-2013 09:36 PM  5 years agoPost 92
finless

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I guess no one remembers Foo and the Foo Shield convo from about 2004 or 2005?

Bob

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09-07-2013 09:47 PM  5 years agoPost 93
NQNA

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Respect the sport.. There is a lot of energy in our model helicopters. No one thinks that they or a spectator will be hurt, but accidents do happen.

I fly for a living.. My joke is that I never want to be in an airplane or helicopter and have to say like Dorothy in the " Wizard of OZ"... taping my heels together.... "There is no Place Like Home"..

We all need to think..respect and cherish our sport.. It is our way of life!

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09-07-2013 09:50 PM  5 years agoPost 94
rudyy

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In that pic above I worry more about the person walking and the one sitting than the pilot. The pilot sees the heli and knows what is happening every second the others are obvious to what is happening in the next 5 seconds. That will be the next change we will be seeing.
I also try avoiding working on my heli in the pit area with my back facing the field while someone is flying. There is no way to react if someone's heli has gone wrong.

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09-08-2013 12:46 AM  5 years agoPost 95
vortechZ230

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What ever happened to the "Foo Shield"?....

Blue skies, Light Winds!

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09-08-2013 02:17 AM  5 years agoPost 96
Volcano

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More than 5 people died near me this season riding motorcycles. And we still dont have a helmet law. Ama has a lobbyist, and if helis get restricted Ill never pay ama again. So ama has an interest in keeping regs out. I cant stand the mentality which accepts the govt regulating over individual incidents.
Honestly if helis got regulated I would just break the regs, itd save me a half hour drive to the official field anyways.
And im confident nobody would say a thing if I went to one of 20 empty fields near my house.

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09-08-2013 02:28 AM  5 years agoPost 97
Volcano

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Pilot protection will make people fly in a more dangerous manner than now. Itll be a spectator who takes the hit though.

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09-08-2013 04:11 AM  5 years agoPost 98
BENTDABOOM

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if ya really wanna be safe make safety helmets I.E. golf nets mandatory cuzz that's what its coming down too. all it takes it once with these knives whirling around and someones gonna die! harsh but true.......was ata UC combat meet yrs ago and someones lines got cut,that wing was out of control and flew right over our heads.......did I say SAFTY HELMETS?!! STAY AWARE AND STAY ALIVE!

CAUTION!!! politicians may be hazerdous to your well being

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09-08-2013 06:30 AM  5 years agoPost 99
Volcano

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If YOU want a net then use one. If you want to force others to use it for their own good then you can shove it. I dont think anybody who is making these suggestions even use one. They sell motorcycle helmets near you, wear one of those and a jacket with forearm padding to block it.

I wear those anytime I ride, but I dont think helis are near as dangerous, and I can get a rush out of helis alot safer than on my bike.

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09-08-2013 07:43 AM  5 years agoPost 100
hindsight

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Ok, I admitted it and can finally see it a few days out...I am over reacting
I just can't believe what just happened in Brooklyn... Really just very upset about it still.. I can't sleep at times thinking about it... I don't really know why... I haven't flown since and have had the entire weekend off... This really sucks

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