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09-06-2013 10:28 PM  5 years agoPost 61
rudyy

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.. and a fictional idea. You can trigger the system when the heli is within 5ft from where you stand.

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09-06-2013 10:30 PM  5 years agoPost 62
Craigdieslemac

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I don't think anyone has pushed anything onto you. You invited yourself in.. If you don't enjoy, or value the information, see your way out. This is the problem with people, too busy standing around being offended instead of removing themselves from situations that offend them.. And then bitching. This particular thread, sir, is not for you.. You obviously are incapable of making that decision for yourself. You're welcome.

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09-06-2013 10:42 PM  5 years agoPost 63
Luvmyhelis

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The netting thing is going to happen. Weather the hot heads like it or not. At least for the onlookers at national sponsored meets. I flat out promise you we will see this in the next two years. I just don't know for sure how they are going to handle personal pilot safety. But again, this is not up for discussion. It will happen now, especially with the amount of injuries and death hitting the main stream this year alone. It may be simple, or it may require something far more dedicated. But it is going to happen. I have inside info I cannot discuss, but be warned. LMH

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09-06-2013 10:49 PM  5 years agoPost 64
classic

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But again, this is not up for discussion.
wow.

Bottom line, People are always going to do whatever they want to. No matter what you or someone else says they have to do.

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

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09-06-2013 10:51 PM  5 years agoPost 65
dela

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Problem is the blades can depart and continue towards you after it strikes the pole.
But they will depart with much less energy. I may get hurt but I'm much more likely to survive blades that broke because they hit a pole.

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09-06-2013 10:52 PM  5 years agoPost 66
ticedoff8

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Typical.
"I didn't wear a helmet as a kid, and I didn't die"
"I drove 100MPH through a school zone, and I didn't kill anyone"
"I drank 2 cases of beer and drove home, and I didn't run off the road / kill myself / kill a family of 5".
"I've been driving for 30 years without using seatbelts"

You guys are too funny.

Its called "It cannot happen to me".
And, its why people bungee jump, skydive and race cars.

The reality is: It won't happen to you. Until, it happens to you.
Then you hurt someone else / kill someone else / die.
Then we can all say "Well, he went doing what he believed in: Being an idiot"

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09-06-2013 11:03 PM  5 years agoPost 67
classic

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How long have RC planes been arround huh?
I know for a fact there have been deaths related to RC planes and still after 50 years+ of flying you dont see "nets" at RC plane fields.

You have to wonder if its really "safety" some of these guys are interested in or do they see a potential "profit" in trying to design something like a heli safety net.

Bottom line, JUST FLY SAFE! If people would just adhere to that concept there would be much fewer accidents and deaths.

After watching how many of the sponsored reps and unsponsored pilots fly unsafe at ircha{not everyone but a lot} and add to that after reading comments by RR members on how they "fly much better after smoking weed" sorry, but there are much more important things to try to get people to change about how they fly then just add some "netting".

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

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09-06-2013 11:05 PM  5 years agoPost 68
Davo53

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High guys we have a 9 meter rule down in Aus and l still feel it's to close we forget too if you fly at a plank field it's also just as dangerous !

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09-06-2013 11:29 PM  5 years agoPost 69
rhodesengr

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Not sure how practical it is to make a safety shield but the material of choice would be Lexan, aka polycarbonate. Plexiglass, aka acrylic or PMMA, is too brittle. It will shatter. Lexan is what they make bullet proof windows out of. It has a very high impact strength. One problem with a big clear panel though is wind. It will tend to get blown around and its not really a portable solution.

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09-07-2013 12:03 AM  5 years agoPost 70
sonnyhad

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Who's gunna pay for this safety netting? LUVMYHELI'S?

Bald Pilots usually wear hats!

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09-07-2013 12:46 AM  5 years agoPost 71
hindsight

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You guys do what you want... I'm flying behind a safety net... It's not a big progect.. Just some thick sports related netting on some posts into the ground... Some of these clubs charge big fees ( especially the one in Brooklyn).. They can afford nets...don't change the way you fly, that's what makes it thrilling to some... Just add a barrier...

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09-07-2013 12:46 AM  5 years agoPost 72
Eco8gator

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You can keep it low and you can keep it fast but just don't fly it so close to the pilot line....

I am pretty sure that a simple analysis will show the typical reaction time of a good 3D pilots could help determine a minimum safe distance from the pilot.

It would be based on how fast the pilot could hit the kill switch and dump the blade energy at some reasonable velocity approving the pilot.

I see way too many pilots flying way too close. I've seen pilots fly just above their own heads and do knife edge passes that could almost clip their Tx's.

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09-07-2013 01:25 AM  5 years agoPost 73
dialarotor

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Busy for about the next month
But after that, with this latest incident I am feeling motivated and will be working on something. And if you don't want to use one, nobody is twisting your arm, but I would expect to start seeing guys working on some kind of device.

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09-07-2013 02:34 AM  5 years agoPost 74
qraptor

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I think it is a good idea to have netting or something similar at events. We really need to be proactive in protecting spectators.

As for individual pilots, do what you want. But I am going to be taking a good look at improving safety.

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09-07-2013 02:49 AM  5 years agoPost 75
sabooo

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+1 for Foo Shields. I LOL'd.



I was going to take up Origami, but someone said the local club folded.

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09-07-2013 03:07 AM  5 years agoPost 76
wjvail

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Meridian, Mississippi

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This is my car two week ago. Yes I was sitting on the bumper in the shade of the tail gate. I watched the plane from engine start to just before impact (I was running by then).

The plane spun in straight down from about 100 feet. I watched the spin long enough to make certain I was running from the crash site and not to it. I made it to the passenger side door before it hit. Netting would not have helped - not unless it was over the top of me.

"You get an average of about 27,000 days on earth but you're not guaranteed tomorrow." Dad

"Well, nothing bad can happen now."

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09-07-2013 03:49 AM  5 years agoPost 77
Jerry K

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First off I am very sorry for the family and the young man.

Can we get a little perspective here? The problem with safety is who ever speaks bad about safety becomes a heretic! I work in a safety regulated industry. Keep in mind there were 25 people that lost their lives in Chicago this last weekend alone. If you look at other risky sports such as sking, snowboarding, sailing ect, you will find our sport is relativly safe. If you count up the total flights made every week here in the states then figure it has been 15 years since we had a major accident,(Houston loss of life, NYC loss of life)you are safer flying 3D infront of your face than a lot of other everyday activities. There is always someone that feels the need to make up rules for other people that are old enough to make their own choices in life!

I am not a 3D pilot and a small portion of the reason is I do not feel confortable in that position, but life is full of choices.

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09-07-2013 06:47 AM  5 years agoPost 78
Craigdieslemac

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The what if.. Or this won't work .. Or any other way you want to nay say a safety net game can be played all day. Both sides of the arguement have valid points. The for profit statement is a little out of the park.. I doubt anyone could make their millions off of something that is freely shared in this type of forum, and it's not as though every household has a RC Helicopter.
There will always be a certain amount if risk inherent to the hobby. Flying safer is definatley the wiser choice, well obviously the wiser choice. Designing some sort of safety net for personal use is a personal choice. One that I would gladly help someone design.. And test.. For free. I have already said I won't use one, I don't fly close enough to my self to feel the need.
Everything we do in life takes a certain amount of risk assessment and situational awareness, from brushing your teeth to driving cars and flying heli's. A safety device is about mitigating risk, not eliminating it. You will never eliminate the potential for accidents, you can only mitigate the potential harm caused by safely applying a balanced amount of precautions. By balanced I mean within what a normal person would consider reasonable, or practical. I think there is a potential to save a life or two in something between the pilot and the heli, and if it only saves one life, than its worth it.

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09-07-2013 02:56 PM  5 years agoPost 79
Jerry K

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In cases it all comes down to responsibility, WHO is financially responsible? If I am responsible for my own actions then, for the most part I get to make the safety rules for myself. If someone else or an entity is financially responsible then they get to make the safety rules I have to abide by.

In the chemical plant industry one area where ((ALL)) accidents are preventable the rules are very-very onerous (look up the word)

When someone or something gets involved or more involved (the AMA)financially with my heli flying that is when we are going to see a change in the way we do things. Up to that point there will be individuals that make their OWN choices how much risk they are willing to expose themselves to.

In the 2 cases in the US the pilot was the person killed not a spectator. Even in the case of a spectator I think there is a situation refered to implied consent, where as if a spectator was hurt or killed that person was not forced to stay around and knew there was a certin amount of risk of what he was watching.

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09-07-2013 03:21 PM  5 years agoPost 80
rudyy

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Throttle Hold Automation
Is there a way to come up with a electronic device such that if the heli is within certain distance from your tx, it will automatically trigger throttle hold?

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