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09-04-2013 11:12 PM  4 years agoPost 1
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RAND PAUL SHREDS OBAMA’S ‘RIDICULOUS’ STRATEGY, JUSTIFICATIONS FOR WAR WITH SYRIA

09.04.13 by Greg Campbell

On Tuesday, Tea Party Senator Rand Paul spoke candidly on Fox News’ Hannity. Providing the best, most detailed “breakdown” of what a military operation in Syria means for America and our allies, both in the short-term and the long-term, Sen. Paul spoke calmly about the President’s Constitutional abilities and the prospect of war in Syria.

“I think Senator McCain made a great point,” Sen. Paul began. “He and I don’t always agree, but he made a wonderful point; he looked at John Kerry and he said, ‘It’s not very good military strategy to announce in advance that [a military attack] is going to be limited and let them know it’s coming so they can move all the things you’re planning on bombing, they can move to other sites. It is kind of ridiculous when you think about it that that’s the strategy that President Obama has.”

Sen. Paul then went further to explain the far-reaching implications of our allies in the Middle East. Israel, surrounded by neighboring enemy countries, is particularly vulnerable to attack in retaliation for the U.S.’s operations in Syria. Though the President seemingly believes that Israel can take care of itself, it does give conservatives pause who wonder why Obama and many others are looking to aid Syrian rebels with strong ties to Al Qaeda, but so willing to leave our ally, Israel, high-and-dry and at the mercy of neighboring nations.

Paul also discussed the President’s stance on Congressional approval.

“I want to be proud of the President, there haven’t been many times. I wanted to be proud that he was asking for congressional authority. And I was for about a minute until I heard him say ‘oh, but, it’s just a fake vote. If you vote against me I’ll still bomb Syria because I have all the authority I need.’ That troubles me because [James] Madison wrote a lot about war and Madison said that the Constitution supposes what history demonstrates- that the Executive Branch is most prone to war. Therefore, the Constitution gave that power to the Legislature and I don’t think the President fully gets that.”

Paul also agreed with Senator McCain that the Senate resolution was off-point. Paul expressed that the President has little authority to initiate a war, but has power to run a war. The senate resolution that limits military action, Paul asserted, limits the President’s ability to wage war.

As America nears closer to war with Syria, the justifications remain murky at best. On Wednesday, at an event in Stockholm, Sweden, Obama stated, “My credibility is not on the line. The international community’s credibility is on the line. And America and Congress’s credibility is on the line.”

Here's the video:

http://www.tpnn.com/rand-paul-shred...war-with-syria/

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09-04-2013 11:26 PM  4 years agoPost 2
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pffft.... the Republicans/Libs are just whining because they have to actually make a decision for once. Morons...

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09-04-2013 11:42 PM  4 years agoPost 3
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Today US military operations are involved in scores of countries across all the five continents. The US military is the world’s largest landlord, with significant military facilities in nations around the world, and with a significant presence in Bahrain, Djibouti,Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo, and Kyrgyzstan, in addition to long-established bases in Germany, Japan, South Korea, Italy, and the UK.1 Some of these are vast, such as the Al Udeid Air Force Base in Qatar, the forward headquarters of the United States Central Command, which has recently been expanded to accommodate up to 10,000 troops and 120 aircraft.

The US Central Command (CENTCOM) is active in 20 countries across the Middle Eastern region, and is actively ramping-up military training, counterterrorism programs, logistical support, and funding to the military in various nations. At this point, the US has some kind of military presence in Afghanistan, Bahrain, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, U.A.E., Uzbekistan, and Yemen.

US Africa Command (AFRICOM), according to the paper, “supports military-to-military relationships with 54 African nations.”

Altogether, that makes 74 nations where the US is fighting or “helping” some force in some proxy struggle that has been deemed beneficial by the nation’s masters of war.

Beyond that, there are Special Operations forces in countries. Jeremy Scahill in Dirty Wars: The World is a Battlefield, writes, “By mid-2010, the Obama administration had increased the presence of Special Operations forces from sixty countries to seventy-five countries. SOCOM had about 4,000 people deployed around the world in countries besides Iraq and Afghanistan.”

The forces were deployed, as the Washington Post reported, to “go beyond unilateral strikes” and train “local counterterrorism forces” and engage in “joint operations with them.” Plans for both “preemptive” and “retaliator strikes” existed in “numerous places around the world, meant to be put into action when a plot” was identified or “after an attack linked to a specific group.”

Scahill also reports, based on his own “well-placed special operations sources”:

…[A]mong the countries where [Joint Special Operations Command] teams had been deployed under the Obama administration were: Iran, Georgia, Ukraine, Bolivia, Paraguay, Ecuador, Peru, Yemen, Pakistan (including in Baluchistan) and the Philippines. These teams also at times deployed in Turkey, Belgium, France and Spain. JSOC was also supporting US Drug Enforcement Agency operations in Colombia and Mexico…

Since President Barack Obama has been willing to give the go ahead to operations that President George W. Bush would not have approved, operations have been much more aggressive and, presumably, JSOC has been able to fan out and work in way more countries than ever expected.

Global assassinations have been embraced by the current administration, opening the door to night raids, drone strikes, missile attacks where cluster bombs are used, etc. Each of these operations, as witnessed or experienced by the civilian populations of countries, potentially inflame and increase the number of areas in the world where there are conflict zones.

A Congressional Research Service (CRS) provides an accounting of all the publicly acknowledged deployments of US military forces. It indicated that, as many Americans may not be aware, in February of this year, 100 military personnel were deployed to Niger to “provide support for intelligence collection” and to “facilitate intelligence sharing with French forces conducting operations in Mali, and with other partners in the region,” according to President Obama.

http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/20...-how-many-wars/

With this going on, do we really need a dust up with Syria?

90% of life is "showing up"

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09-05-2013 12:15 AM  4 years agoPost 4
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So now we'll pimp out our military
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...26pLid%3D368694

I'm sure the parents of the kids putting their life on the line will love this....

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09-05-2013 06:06 AM  4 years agoPost 5
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fwiw..
Goes sumpin' like this......We help depose Assad.....Muslime Bros jump up, put another Morsi in place.....Assad may be bad, but he has kept the smelly masses in check......How's that democracy thing working for ya , Egypt...?
the thought of wastng one more life or dollar on that region makes me want to puke....Why does our "intellectual elite" class seem unable to comprehend even a little history, or the all too real laws of cause and effect?

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09-05-2013 08:59 AM  4 years agoPost 6
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For the so called "Militant elite"the spoils of war are always worth the lives of a few minions.

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09-05-2013 01:06 PM  4 years agoPost 7
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funny...because I thought us conservatives were the warmongers.

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09-05-2013 01:39 PM  4 years agoPost 8
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funny...because I thought us conservatives were the warmongers.
What is interesting, though, is how, for the average self-described conservative, most conservative ideals become "liberal" ideals when it comes to the Pentagon.

"limited government", "fiscal conservatism", "corporate welfare", "government waste" and etc. completely lose their conservative character when it comes to the military and its expenditures. Republicans suddenly have no problem with $400 hammers, acres and acres of rusting, useless weaponry all over the place and a budget of nearly 3/4 of a trillion every year as long as it's spent at the Pentagon. They squeal like babies over even $1 spent on an essential like education or healthcare, but don't bat so much as an eyelash at giving the Pentagon the keys to the treasury and letting it simply go pilfer as much as it wants.

Somehow the concerns over the national debt and any deficits just disappear from the Republican mind when it comes to military funding and turn into blank checks and the sky is the limit.

I've always found that very interesting...

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09-05-2013 01:57 PM  4 years agoPost 9
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oops....we agree on something.
But I'm a Libertarian, so.....

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09-05-2013 02:07 PM  4 years agoPost 10
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You are told what to moan about by the media,the seed is planted,military spending aint one of them on the list Same applies here.Top of the list here is Immigration,welfare and health,sound familiar

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09-05-2013 02:14 PM  4 years agoPost 11
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I've always said, we're always just a few years behind you guys. It's been happening for decades. You guys are our "canary in the coalmine".....we just ignore it....to our own peril I might add.
I give GB a lot of props that they stood up and said "we ain't goin'".....

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09-05-2013 02:34 PM  4 years agoPost 12
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The "Net"has opened a lot of eyes,information everywhere, i reckon and got folks thinking

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09-05-2013 02:42 PM  4 years agoPost 13
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eggzactly. The left loves to complain about Faux news (and some of those complaints are legit), but if it weren't for the likes of them and what we can get from the net, we'd be stuck (as in years past) with what the MSM feeds us. And the MSM is (now more than ever) in bed with the government and even more, with this administration.

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09-05-2013 02:47 PM  4 years agoPost 14
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As far as many goverments are concerned,the "Internet" must be a new swear word

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09-05-2013 03:02 PM  4 years agoPost 15
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why do you think the President pushed for a "kill-switch" law on the internet??? Don't be surprised if/when that comes into play.
An informed public is the BIGGEST danger to big government.
I'm still blown away by how quickly and completely the whole NSA listening thing got swept under the rug.......and WE don't say a word about it.

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09-05-2013 03:22 PM  4 years agoPost 16
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"Blown away"fla,me too

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09-05-2013 03:36 PM  4 years agoPost 17
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Their was a time when Intellectual Property was coveted and protected.

You Never would walk into a Manufacturing Plant with a camera.
From the Guard at the gate -to the - receptionist - to even the escort across the plant floor thru the facility.

Their is a reason our manufacturing, technology, and education bases have been devastated. Lieing Stealing cheating : The Free Share Anywhere

Loss of OWNERSHIP - Now it's the boarder and the Nation's Security for which currently we do not even have a administrator.

Nothing on their OWN

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09-05-2013 03:36 PM  4 years agoPost 18
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funny...I'm watching a bit right now on the NSA listening scandal. First one I've seen in several weeks.
A liberal talking head is actually defending it. We're living in Seinfeld's "Bizarro World" anymore. Libs defending the government, the right complaining about it. Man...how times have changed.

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09-05-2013 03:39 PM  4 years agoPost 19
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"There was a time intellectual property was coveted and protected"Governments have forgotten that,thanks Snowdonfor the heads up

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09-05-2013 03:46 PM  4 years agoPost 20
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The media has always driven conflicts just to have "news" to report. (Remember the Maine!) Then they sit back and criticize everyone else for how these same conflicts are managed.
Quite a game!

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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