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09-02-2013 12:36 AM  5 years agoPost 1
mr dan

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This past week I took the week off from work because I pinched a nerve in my lower back. Well with money in my Paypal account, I made a few offers for some very good deals. Well , after sending PM's to the sellers, I waited.... and waited,,, and waited. Two members responded fast and I bought their items, no problem. What kills me is members who post an item for sale and don't reply to pm's or a thread reply to sell their things!If you're not going to reply, how can you sell what you posted for sale? I had also bought an Avant from a guy here (or so I thought) but after FIVE days and no shipment, and the worlds worst lie about it being shipped but the lady (shipping clerk) turned off the receipt machine so he couldn't get me a tracking number! I then simply asked for my refund . I did though text him a few days later to ask if he was serious about selling it and that I still would like to buy it, but all I asked is that he be straight with me . No reply. oh well moved on.

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09-02-2013 12:41 AM  5 years agoPost 2
wrongler

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When I list something I try to baby sit it as much as possible!
I know how you feel when you try to buy something and can't get a reply from the seller.

Bill Whittaker

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09-02-2013 12:48 AM  5 years agoPost 3
McKrackin

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To be honest,I don't reply to what I consider lowball offers.
They wouldn't want my reply.lol...

I do reply to reasonable offers though...even if it's to turn them down.

If the price and the offer don't share the first number...probably no reply

I literally never use the word literally right.

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09-02-2013 12:48 AM  5 years agoPost 4
mr dan

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When I list something I try to baby sit it as much as possible!
I know how you feel when you try to buy something and can't get a reply from the seller.
The thing is this. when I sell something or things, I have them packed already and most cases have pics of the items being packed to send to a buyer if requested. I too babysit the thread for a while , but i don't know if you have this , but on my cell phone I get pm and thread alerts when a reply or pm is sent to me, so when I'm away from the computer or away from home, I can reply through my cell phone.

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09-02-2013 01:35 AM  5 years agoPost 5
Rudy

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To be honest,I don't reply to what I consider lowball offers.
An offer is an offer, it's the start of the deal making process.

Rudy Ackerman Houston TX/Bend OR

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09-02-2013 01:40 AM  5 years agoPost 6
McKrackin

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An offer is an offer, it's the start of the deal making process.
Sometimes it's just a ridiculous smack in the face.
You open a PM excited that you may have sold something to get this ridiculously low number that there is no way to work with.

And unless the ad requests offers...it's a true insult.

Waste of time is all it is.

Low ballers suck.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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09-02-2013 02:13 AM  5 years agoPost 7
mr dan

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Low balling is not cool, but if Im selling something and someone makes a low offer, I still reply and say no. My issue is as soon as I see a great deal and I send them a pm asking for their paypal addy, they dont reply! or... is the item still available?
Since we are on that subject.. how long does it take to go back into your thread and click the "SOLD" tab to remove the topic?

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09-02-2013 02:14 AM  5 years agoPost 8
777ER

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Westchester county, NY, USA

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When I sell stuff, I put the heli or parts on the "selling shelf" and wait for a deal to come thru or an reasonable offer for it, I pack it up and wait for the payment.
Reason for this is that I may have to part it out if an buyer wants an certain part such as servos, rx, engine...etc.
Or it's to be bundled up with other parts the buyer wants.

I respond right away if I'm not really busy but can be anywhere from a few hours to half a day if its an busy day for me.

Usually I give the buyer a few days max to get the payment to me if its PayPal. If its mail order or check, I give it a week. If nothing, its not marked sold yet.

-Chris

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09-02-2013 02:30 AM  5 years agoPost 9
AltecLansing

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Low ball offers are just a door to negotiation. And not everyone who makes you an offer knows what you consider a low ball offer is. I get more worried to people who don't respond to offers. What happens when they accept an offer and they didn't respond to what he considered a low ball offer? Will they ship? If they aren't willing to respond, then how do you know they are really willing to ship? Communication in any potential sale is the most important part of the sale. A simple no thank you is sufficient to what you consider a low ball offer or any offer you don't wish to accept. A counter offer would be better to get a deal negotiated. Also, remember, it's a two way street. If you ignore someone's offer and later you find they are selling something you want, they may just choose to not sell to you and it may just be the deal you are waiting on. Communicate, negotiate, pay, ship, and follow up politely is a way of making good transactions.

Man, I miss the eighties.

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09-02-2013 03:09 AM  5 years agoPost 10
McKrackin

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Communication is required AFTER a sale.

Not responding to an insulting low ball is in no way indicative of the character of the seller but the low ball offer is a BIG red flag to what kind of potential buyer you are dealing with.

I choose not to deal with insulting offers and I never make insulting offers.

As a matter of fact,I never have offered any less than the asking price and I have paid more in almost every transaction.
I pay Paypal fees even if they don't ask and offer at least $20 extra if they will hold an item for a few days until payday...sometimes a lot more if it's a high priced item.

Check my feedback and ask around if you think I'm making that up.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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09-02-2013 03:22 AM  5 years agoPost 11
AltecLansing

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And once again how does one know what a low ball offer is to the seller? And communication is required at all phases of the negotiation and sale. The better the communication the better the understanding of both parties involved. If you see an offer you don't like and don't feel like answering, that is up to you. And remember, if the person that you say low balled you has something you want, he may not answer you at all. A simple respectful no is sufficient.

Man, I miss the eighties.

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09-02-2013 03:25 AM  5 years agoPost 12
McKrackin

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75% or less is a low ball

I literally never use the word literally right.

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09-02-2013 03:27 AM  5 years agoPost 13
McKrackin

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And communication is required at all phases of the negotiation and sale.
No it's not...negotiation is not even required in a sale.

The seller is 100% in control and can do or not do anything they want until someone else owns the item and they don't own that item until the seller has accepted the payment.

The seller is not even obligated to take the highest offer or even the first offer of full price.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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09-02-2013 03:30 AM  5 years agoPost 14
AltecLansing

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Communication is the most IMPORTANT part of any possible sale. You handle your sale any way you want. It's your choice. You'll not change my mind and you have no control over how I think.

Man, I miss the eighties.

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09-02-2013 03:32 AM  5 years agoPost 15
McKrackin

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I'm not trying to change anyone's mind...you're trying to change mine.lol...

You critiqued me...remember?

I literally never use the word literally right.

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09-02-2013 03:48 AM  5 years agoPost 16
AltecLansing

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Actually, I was making a general statement about low ball offers. It was different from your statement. Your are welcome to debate it, if you wish, but in the end a seller wants to get as much for what he sells and a buyer wants to pay as little as he can for what he wants. We all have the numbers we're willing to accept. Offers and negotiations are opportunities for those numbers to appear. Politeness during a sale goes a long way. Ignoring someone may get you the same thing when the roles are reversed. Everyone has a point they consider a low ball offer on what they sell and it may not be what others think. Communication is still the most important part of any sale. Sometimes, I want to know more about an item before I make an offer or decide to buy. This goes for any item I may purchase, rc stuff, cars, houses, food, etc.. If the person chooses not to communicate, I will choose not to buy. If selling your way is satisfactory to you, that is fine. If selling my way is satisfactory to me, that is fine.

Man, I miss the eighties.

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09-02-2013 03:53 AM  5 years agoPost 17
McKrackin

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Sometimes, I want to know more about an item before I make an offer or decide to buy. This goes for any item I may purchase, rc stuff, cars, houses, food, etc.. If the person chooses not to communicate, I will choose not to buy. If selling your way is satisfactory to you, that is fine. If selling my way is satisfactory to me, that is fine.
I would answer those questions gladly with pictures,videos and phone calls.

I have even driven 200 miles to show a heli to a guy on here...he bought it.

But I do not have to respond to ridiculous offers.
If you make a crazy offer and after a few hours,you check and the PM is marked as "Read"...and there is no reply...You can be sure that I was insulted by the offer and I'm being the better man by restraining myself from responding.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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09-02-2013 03:56 AM  5 years agoPost 18
AltecLansing

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And, if someone makes an offer lower than I'm willing to accept, I'll say thank you for the offer, but I'm not willing to go that low. Who knows, maybe in the future that person has an item I want.

Man, I miss the eighties.

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09-02-2013 03:56 AM  5 years agoPost 19
McKrackin

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I actually think all offers are a bit rude if the ad doesn't ask for them.

If you want to negotiate,the first PM should be..."Is the price negotiable?".

I literally never use the word literally right.

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09-02-2013 03:59 AM  5 years agoPost 20
McKrackin

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Another reason I may not reply is the black dot.lol...

I have marked several usernames on here with the black dot and a mouse over that states "Do not deal with this person"....

In that case,I won't sell to them and would NEVER buy from them.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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