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09-08-2013 03:29 PM  5 years agoPost 201
Dennis (RIP)

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This is just once again trying to blame us for your lack of responsibility for your god.
Well, since you claim my responsibility is to God, then its certainly not to a thick headed numbskull.
Just because you can't fulfill your duties as a believer isn't our problem.
Why would you think its your problem?

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09-08-2013 03:34 PM  5 years agoPost 202
unclejane

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Why would you think its your problem?
Well you keep jumping in and throwing a childish tantrum every time I say I don't believe the nonsense you're trying to feed me. Then saying I don't believe you because I'm a "thick headed numbskull".

So, according to you, it's clearly my fault that you've shirked your responsibilities.

It's your god, not mine.

PS: if you're getting tired of doing all of "His" work for Him, have Him make me a believer. That ought to be a simple, trivial job, if He's as powerful as you say He is.

Why not? Just ask Him to do it and I should be converted right away. Seriously, that'd be a quick way to settle the matter once and for all and you should hardly have to do anything but issue a prayer.

LS

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09-08-2013 04:27 PM  5 years agoPost 203
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09-08-2013 04:34 PM  5 years agoPost 204
Thomas L Erb

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PS: if you're getting tired of doing all of "His" work for Him, have Him make me a believer. That ought to be a simple, trivial job, if He's as powerful as you say He is.
Why not? Just ask Him to do it and I should be converted right away. Seriously, that'd be a quick way to settle the matter once and for all and you should hardly have to do anything but issue a prayer.
This is proof that you have no understanding of what and who God is. I suggest you at least study what it is you are arguing about. You hold us to the same standard so here I call you out to do as you expect us to.

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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09-08-2013 04:40 PM  5 years agoPost 205
Dennis (RIP)

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This is proof that you have no understanding of what and who God is. I suggest you at least study what it is you are arguing about. You hold us to the same standard so here I call you out to do as you expect us to.
It can be guaranteed that he will not do that Tom.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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09-08-2013 04:41 PM  5 years agoPost 206
unclejane

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This is proof that you have no understanding of what and who God is.
That is exactly right. Do you know why that is? Hint: it's not Dennis' numbskull theory.
I suggest you at least study what it is you are arguing about. You hold us to the same standard so here I call you out to do as you expect us to.
No no, you're once again asking _me_ to do the work _you_ are supposed to be doing - defining your god and demonstrating exactly how it corresponds to reality. He's _your_ god, it's up to _you_ to describe him/her/it and show it to the rest of us.

You're just making excuses for what is apparently its ineptitude (or more likely it's non-existence); meanwhile I'm seeing no action or results.

That's why we don't believe you.

LS

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09-08-2013 04:51 PM  5 years agoPost 207
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You're just making excuses for what is apparently its ineptitude (or more likely it's non-existence); meanwhile I'm seeing no action or results.

That's why we don't believe you.
Thats because you are not here for an explanation of anything.

You are here simply to ridicule others.

Thats your only purpose.

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09-08-2013 04:56 PM  5 years agoPost 208
unclejane

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Thats because you are not here for an explanation of anything.
You are here simply to ridicule others.
Thats your only purpose.
Nope. That you've consistently evaded providing the info I (and other atheists) have asked for does not mean we don't want explanations.

Explanations is precisely what we _do_ have to have if we are to believe your stories and fairy tales. And explanations are precisely what you have _not_ provided.

You've only given excuses, 2-year old tantrums and insults, and no god. I'm still an atheist and you're still apparently only believing a bunch of fairy tales. Nothing has changed.

Again, your god is _your_ job, not ours. If you don't do your job, we don't believe you. Simple.

That's why you guys are having so much trouble, it's _your_ job that _you_ are not doing. We're simply asking you to do that job and that's all.

LS

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09-08-2013 05:03 PM  5 years agoPost 209
Dennis (RIP)

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Nope. That you've consistently evaded providing the info I (and other atheists) have asked for does not mean we don't want explanations.
Yes, it does.

Again, your god is _your_ job, not ours. If you don't do your job, we don't believe you. Simple.
Ok fine.

Get on with your thickheaded miserable life.

Nothing that has been said in the hundreds of pages already on this forum on this subject has made the slightest difference to you and your atheist pals.

Thats perfectly clear evidence that you are not here for an explanation of anything. You are here simply to ridicule others. Thats what you are your pals do and what you like to do.

Take a pill.

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09-08-2013 05:11 PM  5 years agoPost 210
Life_Nerd

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Why was this thread even created? Seems senseless to me.

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09-08-2013 05:11 PM  5 years agoPost 211
unclejane

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Yes, it does.
No, it doesn't.
Nothing that has been said in the hundreds of pages already on this forum on this subject has made the slightest difference to you and your atheist pals.
That's because you've presenting nothing of substance. You've simply repeated the same old nonsense over and over like read the bible (which we have and have already explained why we've rejected it as evidence) or "because I say so" or "because it's a matter of faith" and nothing else.

That's why we don't believe you - you're not doing your job as Christians of justifying your beliefs. We've rejected your "arguments" and explained exactly why.

The only responses that we've gotten in return is "no, it's not", "no, you're wrong" or a paragraph of imbecilic, childish tantrums.

If you simply don't care that we don't believe you, why do you keep jumping back into the thread? If you don't want to do the work, save yourself some headache and be quiet. Or, sure, go ahead and knock yourself out, I find it amusing and don't mind it because of its entertainment value. But just sayin' - you'd save yourself a lot of aggravation and you'd be a lot more dignified.

LS

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09-08-2013 05:48 PM  5 years agoPost 212
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09-08-2013 05:54 PM  5 years agoPost 213
Life_Nerd

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If your evidence is summed up as all the "good" or "beautiful" things you have witnessed in your life, then what can you attribute all the "bad", "evil", or "ugly" things too? God testing your faith?

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09-08-2013 05:58 PM  5 years agoPost 214
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or "because it's a matter of faith" and nothing else.
Thats all it is slick.

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09-08-2013 06:18 PM  5 years agoPost 215
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Here is the bottom line:
When He was on earth, the Son of God told us that
no one can SEE the Kingdom of God unless that one
is Born From Above.

This LIFE is a Gift of God to the ones who are
to receive the Gift.

Many will never be enabled to believe.

Is that YOU?

First God regenerates the soul and makes the dead
spirit of man ALIVE. (It is God's WORK.)

Then, having been regenerated, the soul is granted
the FAITH required to come to the understanding that
God really did raise His Precious Son from the Grave.

You CANNOT arise to this understanding by your own power.

As long as you desire to USE GOD for your own purposes
HE will NOT reveal Himself.

BUT: To the humble, contrite heart who is willing to
surrender ALL, the possibility can come true if God
is willing to save that soul.

(You cannot fake God out.)

You must be serious.

It most often takes a tragedy to bring that soul
to the place where they are enabled to be willing
to surrender.

This salvation can even occur on one's deathbed, when
'the end' is looming over one's head. Please remember this.

Here is how God does this:

He sent His SON to die for our sins.
Once God enables our hearts to receive
Jesus' Death as our death, and HIS Payment
in our place for our sins to the Father,
We are fully forgiven. (By the Blood of The Lamb.)

Jesus is The Lamb who dies for HIS Children.

God is JUST.

He cannot just forgive sin.

We either DIE for our own sins OR we allow
someone else who is willing to die in our place.

This is what BILLY GRAHAM means when he says,
"Receive the Lord Jesus today as your personal Savior."

By taking God at His Word and accepting the Gift of Life
offered in the forgiveness of sins by God The SON, God
is Just in forgiving us. Can you see this?

Forgiveness of Sins is the Key.

God is Willing, are you?

If you say you are not a sinner, you tell God
he is a liar. God cannot lie.

God is perfectly just and holy, righteous and true.

If you think it NOT a MIRACLE when one human soul
is Enabled to Become Born From Above by the power
and authority of God Almighty, you are dead wrong.

Remember the evil force who runs this world does not
want you to know of God's Mercy, Grace and Love.
This one will always hornswagle you into thinking
that the Resurrection from the dead is a joke, unreal
and unbelievable; impossible and a lie.

But The Truth is the Resurrection of Jesus from the dead.

He is the FIRSTFRUITS of all the brothers who will also
be enabled to Rise at the Last Day.

The greatest need we humans have is:

JESUS CHRIST. Open your heart to His Great Love.

(Watch the evil one fire across the bow - here and now...)

I love gravity, it always keeps my feet planted when I fly!

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09-08-2013 06:27 PM  5 years agoPost 216
es1co2bar3

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Why was this thread even created? Seems senseless to me.
Why do you care? don't you see Satan has send is Hench man to come
and convert us that there's no G@@@@D did you miss that? and are
you part of the THEIST crowds.?

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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09-08-2013 07:04 PM  5 years agoPost 217
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Lost me on that one Esco -----are You
talking about the Black Son of Perdition ???

with a dog named : BOO !

greyeagle

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09-08-2013 09:41 PM  5 years agoPost 218
BDIS

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Again, All chest pounding aside. This is the Gospel for those that don't already know.

Watch at YouTube

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09-09-2013 02:48 AM  5 years agoPost 219
Thomas L Erb

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Again, your god is _your_ job, not ours. If you don't do your job, we don't believe you. Simple
We have tried to give you what you say you are looking for and you reject everything we have given you. You are not looking what you say you are looking for so tell us honestly why you are here if not just to troll the subject. Be honest with us for once.

As I said you have Absolutly no idea what or who God is considering your responses . If you really wish to know we will help you but other then that you are just here to troll.

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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09-09-2013 03:09 AM  5 years agoPost 220
unclejane

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We have tried to give you what you say you are looking for and you reject everything we have given you.
Because what you've presented so far isn't evidence. Generally, your arguments have gone: the Christian god exists:
- because we say it exists.
- because the bible says it exists.
- because it makes sense to me.
- we can't show him to you because he's supernatural (but we still know he's there).
- we can't show him to you because he's a matter of faith (but we still know he's there).
- you can't see him because you turned your back on him.
- he's only evident after X number of prayers and prostrations on your part.
- because we assert evolution is false.
- because we assert the world looks like it was designed by a designer.
- lots and lots of brackets, smileys and insults.

and so forth.

Those are not presentations of evidence - those are "we don't know anything either and we're insulted that you don't simply believe us. We believe it just because we believe it and that's why you should too".
You are not looking what you say you are looking for so tell us honestly why you are here if not just to troll the subject. Be honest with us for once.
No, you're not _providing_ what you need to provide in order to get us to believe you. You're just giving excuses and attempts at diverting the argument away from the topic (is the bible true and does your god actually exist).

What you have to do is simple:
- define your god exactly. What is the object of study? How is it to be examined? What characteristics does it have and what does it do? Which god are you talking about - there are 1000's of sects of Christianity with probably even more different definitions of the Christian god. Give us your best one, how about that?
- present it. It has to be detectable in some reality-based way, if you want us to accept it as real. If it's as powerful as you guys say it is, it ought to be not only detectable but overwhelmingly obvious in its effects on our world, like gravity or heat or light are, etc..

In other words, it's got to be _real_.

Even a couple of scraps of persuasive evidence would do. An email address or maybe a Facebook account, anything... Non-theists have done it with physics, cosmology and all sorts of other facts about our world that we didn't know before and now do.

You should be able to do this simple task as well, especially if you have this god on your side to help you.

LS

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