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08-31-2013 12:08 AM  5 years agoPost 1
honda411

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okay so this is my first Whiplash or MA branded heli. I love it so far and flies awesome and built tough. But darn it, sounds like I may have to part ways with it, due to finding out the extreme cost of parts and considering there is only 1 in a package. Its unfortunate because i love the way it flies and sure can take a beating without missing a beat.
But the cost is a bit too much. Anyone possibly interested in an additional heli to their fleet?

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08-31-2013 12:11 AM  5 years agoPost 2
wrongler

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Which heli is it? Im guessing Nitro?

More info please.

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08-31-2013 01:01 AM  5 years agoPost 3
honda411

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Yes whiplash nitro. Just a couple of screws and two tt gears. $50 after shipping. I'm looking at an easy 3-400 hundred dollar crash. Time to dip out before that happens.

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08-31-2013 01:12 AM  5 years agoPost 4
unclejane

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Which parts and where are you buying them?

LS

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08-31-2013 01:27 AM  5 years agoPost 5
Eury

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They are pricey, always have been since I got my first MA back in 94. It's improved with the Whiplash over the older models, but you still pay a premium for owning a US made heli. The upside is that the parts very rarely wear out, you've got to slam it into the ground to need to replace stuff.

Some things are pretty ridiculous though, torque tube gears should be 2 in a pack for what they charge, same with shafts, booms and the other common crash parts.

I usually order my MA stuff from Ron's, they discount it for established customers. It's not huge, but it makes a difference and the service can't be beat.

Nick Crego

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08-31-2013 01:31 AM  5 years agoPost 6
eobie

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I had a botched auto the other day in my fury 55. Total damage outside of one main blade.... 7.50 for a new tail boom. I had an electric whiplash that I had to get rid of cause it was a lemon. Gasser in the box to be built. 700 class machines are expensive to fix. You can't compare it to Align. Not in the same class.

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08-31-2013 02:19 AM  5 years agoPost 7
honda411

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The quality it superb compared to other brands for sure. Unclejane. I'm ordering from heliproz.
I can agree on packaging two gears in a pack and same with other common crash parts.

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08-31-2013 11:14 AM  5 years agoPost 8
unclejane

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Ok, just curious. If you get them from heliproz south, you get a discount if you're a regular customer. It lowers the price on most stuff a bit.

The Whip is more of a high-end heli and US made, so yeah it's a little pricey. I just try not to crash mine lol. For a nitro, tho, I don't think there's a better one out there.

A cheaper option is the trex 700N which really is a decent machine, except for the start shaft assembly. I had 2 700N's and commonly couldn't get the engine started because the clutch OWB would disengage. If it weren't for that, it's really a pretty good nitro.

There are some others, but then you start getting into the single-supplier problem, where do you get parts and how pricey are they, etc. Krack has had good luck with Avant, but I think there's only one or two places to get parts for those.

If it weren't for the clutch OWB slipping, I'd unreservedly recommend the humble trex 700N as a cheaper alternative.

LS

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08-31-2013 02:04 PM  5 years agoPost 9
Malc1

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I've just bought a pre-owned Whiplash Nitro and live over in the UK where the parts are even more expensive than over in the US.

I haven't even set the helicopter up yet and have had the spragg bearing fail and have loads of parts that require replacing

Also with only two suppliers who stock parts and with very low stock levels parts are bound to be a problem for me to source locally.

I do use RonLund where a discount is applied to the order but it can mean several weeks before parts arrive.

I already own a Spectra G and love MinAir stuff but these helicopters are really not cheap to run.

Need to move to the US I think.

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08-31-2013 02:24 PM  5 years agoPost 10
unclejane

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well for what it's worth on the sprag, I have a feeling a lot of the problems are due to the end play in the assembled clutch bell/sprag/pinion assembly when using the stock parts. With a regular pinion this isn't that much of a problem, but now there's a precision OWB in there which has to be perfectly aligned all the time.

I've got about 5 gallons through mine now and after keeping up with this end play, my sprag still works normally with no visible wear or problems.

I have an electric Whip also with the old sprag and it hasn't given any trouble either. But it's bearings stay tight by themselves.

But yeah I can see a Miniature being expensive to run outside the US. It's even a little pricey here too lol.

So I'll see over time how it holds up. It's already staying tighter than my trex's have, tho don't get me wrong I love my trex's too.

LS

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08-31-2013 04:30 PM  5 years agoPost 11
Malc1

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Yeah I love my TRex700N but now it's got to go.
All the RC gear and motor/muffler will be swapped over to the Whiplash when I finished putting it back together.

One of Align's good points over MinAir is that you buy one spare part and get another free.

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09-01-2013 01:42 PM  5 years agoPost 12
unclejane

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One of Align's good points over MinAir is that you buy one spare part and get another free.
Yep, the Align is the ultimate beater type heli because of that. Their parts prices have always been really good and the quality is generally pretty decent.

I only became a Miniature devotee with the Whiplash, but from other guys have told me who've flown MA helis for a long time, the parts prices have always been a bit up there. But that's probably because it's US-made and the US otherwise doesn't manufacture anything anymore.

I think some things are still imported, tho, like some of the bearings, the Heim ball in the swashplate and so forth.

But I still think I've bought my last non-Miniature heli a while back. Some things on the Whippy models I still don't like; like the battery mounting on the electric. The new 700EX that's coming out looks like it took the existing batt mounting that's already kind of painful and just made it worse (c'mon guys, we need a good tray arrangement and not this fussy thing with straps). And the move to helical gears without adding thrust bearings to the pinion and main mast bearing arrangements, etc. This is just retarded, and I'll resist it until you just can't buy spur gears anymore lol. Tho everyone else is doing this too without fixing the thrust problems either, so....

But overall their designs and quality have so far been the best I've seen. Especially the nitro which has virtually no problems at all...

Meanwhile, I'll just try not to crash lol...

LS

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09-02-2013 02:43 AM  5 years agoPost 13
honda411

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And like the main gear. $32. Holy crap! Not really complaining but that does hit the record books for me. I really love this thing but I think its time for either something smaller or cheaper at the moment. Always wanted a miniature aircraft and I believe what people were saying about quality once I got one.

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09-06-2013 01:19 PM  5 years agoPost 14
MXRACERX43

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That's a cnc cut derlin main gear. If you take that out in a crash you have bigger problems. . If you're crashing on a regular basis I would reconsider a 90 size machine. The superior quality of components allow the Whiplash to stay wear free much longer than other models.

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09-06-2013 01:27 PM  5 years agoPost 15
fastflyer20

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In comparison, the KDE CNC T700 gear is $38.95.

It might not be the right heli for you right now.

I first thought MA was out of my price league until I spent $100's of dollars upgrading and repairing my T700.

Tom
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09-07-2013 02:06 AM  5 years agoPost 16
honda411

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no never took out the main gear.
The parts and quality are truly 100% perfect, and considering its a usa made brand that explains the price. BUT still should package 2 mains, or 2 gears in a set

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09-07-2013 01:28 PM  5 years agoPost 17
kcordell

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Remember the good old days with MA models? All models had the same main gear unless you needed a different gear ratio which was rare in those days. Plus, the tail drive was in the main gear. If you stripped the tail gear from the main, you just flipped the main gear over and had a new tail gear ready to go! Plus due to making this gear for all of the models, mold was paid for early on and main gear costs were rather cheap.

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09-07-2013 11:46 PM  5 years agoPost 18
Rudy

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Yes whiplash nitro. Just a couple of screws and two tt gears. $50 after shipping.
I'm really question this. I get the two tail driver gears MA131-17 and MA131-18 for about $26.00. If you decide to order less then $100 in parts shipping is about $10.00 and that's from anyone.

Rudy Ackerman Houston TX/Bend OR

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09-08-2013 11:23 AM  5 years agoPost 19
rcnut

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I'm really question this. I get the two tail driver gears MA131-17 and MA131-18 for about $26.00. If you decide to order less then $100 in parts shipping is about $10.00 and that's from anyone.
I disagree! If you order just those small parts, they can ship USPS...in the mail, and it's a lot cheaper.

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09-08-2013 02:08 PM  5 years agoPost 20
kcordell

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Get them from Ron at Heliproz South. He ships USPS Priority mail, much cheaper.

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