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08-30-2013 04:14 AM  5 years agoPost 1
Helijockey

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I'm using beastx presently but want to get an ikon or vbar for my new goblin. The beastx is flying great buy I want to try the internal gov on the fbl unit. Ikon seems to be quite popular these days but the vbar has set the standard for fbl. So which do u guys think I should go for?

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08-30-2013 04:19 AM  5 years agoPost 2
Gladiator

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I have tried both and I set with the iKon. I converted my whole fleet to iKon. I just love it.

It makes me feel like I am connected to my helis.

At the end it will be all about personal preference.

iKon, because I am connected to my heli, are you?

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08-30-2013 04:27 AM  5 years agoPost 3
BrainDrain_dx

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vbar pro. I find the logging to be invaluable on every machine.

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08-30-2013 04:47 AM  5 years agoPost 4
Tbird

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I flew my V-bar hundreds of flights... the first 2 with the iKon I was unsure... 20 flights later I love it, and it is my choice from now on... it is pretty much like playing the sim...

if you can give them both a try either way you wont go wrong..

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08-30-2013 05:00 AM  5 years agoPost 5
shinysideUP

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Ikon, feels better, and more intuitive. No need to buy that stupid Pro BS add on.

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08-30-2013 06:31 AM  5 years agoPost 6
mar37

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Haven't tried the V-bar yet but really liking the way the Ikon flies , pretty much feels like the sim for me, have tried the SK540, 3GX, Total-G all fly fine but the Ikon feels much better.

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08-30-2013 12:05 PM  5 years agoPost 7
esmoglo

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With iKon's price point and no need for Pro software wonder if Mikado is loosing traction in the FBL market? Ever since the lower priced FBL units have entered into the market Mini V-bars went down $100 bucks....

Ugly can be fixed stupid is forever!

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08-30-2013 01:42 PM  5 years agoPost 8
NQNA

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You may not need pro software for the Ikon/Brain, but their nitro governor function does not work very well. They fly well I agree and have the multi flightmode feature which is nice.

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08-30-2013 03:46 PM  5 years agoPost 9
bjacks

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Ikon
So NQNA tell me why V-Bar-black-blue-silver, what colors next for the V-Bar for Nitros. Bobby(everybody tells you you don't need the pro version but all those people that tell you that has the pro version)

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08-30-2013 03:53 PM  5 years agoPost 10
shinysideUP

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everybody tells you you don't need the pro version but all those people that tell you that has the pro version
Hahaha, it is true, that is why I laugh. For nitros the pro is needed if you buy a VBar, you will need the Gov., which does not work so well to begin with.

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08-30-2013 04:39 PM  5 years agoPost 11
jespicer1

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Ikon is what I would go with.

You should look into the Robird G31 as well.
For the $75 price tag it performs as well as a Ikon. Some say even better.

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08-30-2013 05:35 PM  5 years agoPost 12
Ronald Thomas

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Hahaha, it is true, that is why I laugh. For nitros the pro is needed if you buy a VBar, you will need the Gov., which does not work so well to begin with.
You obviously have not set a VBAR gov up or flown one setup correctly. The gov on the VBAR works extremely well for nitros as well as electrics.
The bail out/self leveling/rescue mode on the Ikon just plain does not work, there is no way to dispute that. I have setup/flown Ikon and I own VBARs. VBAR is the way to go for me especially when Ikon had some growing pains that I am not sure are resolved.
What you get with VBAR:
-First class FBL system that just plain works
-A setup wizard that will literally walk you through the setup AND explain each parameter to you
-Flexibilty to use on ANY heli/setup/servo combo/blade selection
-Simple and concise adjustment sliders...you want it faster, move the slider up
-Too lazy to tune your heli? Turn on the Optimizers and let them tune your heli for you
-Vibration logging
-Voltage logging
-The largest network of people willing to give advice
-First class service

Who really cares about the $40 upgrade cost....IT IS $40!!!!!! $40 on a $2000 heli is a drop in the bucket considering all you get AND updates are FREE whether you have express or Pro.
Choose what you like but VBAR was the first, and best FBL unit on the maker that all others compare to.......Ron

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08-30-2013 05:53 PM  5 years agoPost 13
esmoglo

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You would be surprised how many would sacrifice a 2K heli for one budget based item or not spending the $$$ needed to finish off the master piece happens all the time.

For the price I think the iKon has its place and its very hard for people entering into the hobby to warrant spending $359 on a V-bar when the iKon is far less.

Mikado never ever had V-Bars at attractive prices until recently as the FBL market has become flooded. In todays FBL market you can get a Mini V-bar with blue tooth for $269.00 VS the old price of less than six months ago of ($299.99 BT was $120.99)total of $419.99 the new price seems like a FIRE sale price and that's good for consumers to save $150 dollars.

I have seen the trend of guys dumping their V-bars (locally) and not looking back or having second thoughts.

Fly what you like in terms of what is better that's subjective there is no true answer, however price is KING and people will always look to save a few $$$$ when there are many other low cost alternatives.

Ugly can be fixed stupid is forever!

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08-30-2013 05:55 PM  5 years agoPost 14
RyanW

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I will throw in my 3 cents...

1) I love the V-Bar. I have spent my money on other systems only to be frustrated after weeks of tweaking and they still weren't anywhere near the performance or feel of the V-Bar. To me it simply isn't worth the time, money or effort in putting any other system to get it to "fly like the v-bar", which lets be honest- is every other manufacturer's goal. If you don't think it is, think again. I know for a fact MANY of the top manufacturers buy V-Bars for their team pilots and try to tweak their next "update" to make it closer to the V-Bar.

2) IKON specifically- I am sorry that I can't comment on this one. I haven't set up one, so I don't know.

3) Bailout- I spent last weekend setting up a Bavarian Demon/Helicommand for a friend who likes the bailout feature. I must say it works and it works well. For what he wants it for, I think it is a good thing. It isn't near as intuitive to setup nor straightforward as the V-Bar, no matter what you are told. He also said that if it weren't for the bailout function, he would have the V-Bar. That really is the only instance that I would think something else is preferred over the V-Bar.

I am not a "fanboy" of the V-Bar, but when you have been doing this as long as I have, tried as many systems and spend as much time and money, isn't it nice to get something that flat out works and works the best? Spend your time tweaking your nitro motor or learning that new trick instead of pulling your hair out trying to program a FBL unit with a toothpick!

-Ryan
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08-30-2013 06:36 PM  5 years agoPost 15
qraptor

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I'm going to second the Helicommand, even though it is not one of your listed choices. The price is not that different from the V bar, you get a good FBL controller and a great rescue mode. That last item alone may save you more than the price of the controller.

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08-30-2013 06:45 PM  5 years agoPost 16
Kauaiguy

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Get a Kbar,give it a try and if you like it enough buy the real Vbar.

I'd rather be flying!

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08-30-2013 07:08 PM  5 years agoPost 17
NQNA

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I just bought the Silverline VBar at IRCHA to put on my 700n. I will upgrade to the Pro version. I also have the Mini VBar on some electrics.

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08-31-2013 08:41 AM  5 years agoPost 18
Helijockey

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Thank u guys Btw I'm in the market for a new radio as well and I fly JR. Was thinking of going with the XG14 but just learnt ikon is not compatible with the XG14 So unless I go futaba or spektrum I'll have to consider the vbar.

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08-31-2013 03:11 PM  5 years agoPost 19
esmoglo

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V-Bar is a great FBL system go with a JR or Spectrum you simply can't go wrong with any of those radios.

Ugly can be fixed stupid is forever!

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08-31-2013 09:50 PM  5 years agoPost 20
Helijockey

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V-Bar is a great FBL system go with a JR or Spectrum you simply can't go wrong with any of those radios.

Yup that's what I'm thinking now.

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