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08-27-2013 12:50 PM  5 years agoPost 1
es1co2bar3

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Why the republican love America but hate American
Why the F why.

Every one of these ultra national right wing lunatic
Is champion for the shutting down the GOV
Over something they have And American dont have.

Any one of these get sick they dont have to for their health care the company paid for them.

Everybody who say the healthcare is no good they xant tell what bad about it.

All they're doing is listing to

Glen beck
Rush limbaaugh
Hannity
Bill O

These guy got health care, why they don't want PPL
To have what they have.

You Republican are wicked and cruel evil.
Shut down the government

AMERICAN OBAMACARE IS GOING NO WHERE.

F N kids droping out of school cant afford healtj INS

F N tax payer dont have to pick up un insure Peep
Med bill anymore.

Insurance have to spend 80% of the dough they collect on health care.

This the part of the bill insurance company is lobbying the republican to repel mostly.

Why dont G@D sent an meteorite and wipe these sucker out.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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08-27-2013 01:23 PM  5 years agoPost 2
baby uh1

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You have no idea what actually is in Obamacare and how it would be paid for. You just see more "free" stuff from the government not how it will bankrupt our country.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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08-27-2013 01:57 PM  5 years agoPost 3
rcmiket

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You Republican are wicked and cruel evil.
Shut down the government
Once again your misinformed ( what else is new). There is a movement to fund day to day operation of the government without funding obamacare. Your "king" doesn't want you to know that.

Remember the sequester? Kids were going to go hungry ,people would die....... Once again it's the "chicken little" story.

Since business's are being given another year to put this in place why should the average Joe have to abide by it? This thing will not work. They have no idea even how implement this monster. Ask yourself one question

Why did they exempt themselves from it?

That should be your first clue.

Mike

"When Inverted down is up and up is expensive"

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08-27-2013 01:58 PM  5 years agoPost 4
fla heli boy

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why would he care??? All of his illegitimate kids and their moms be gettin' free food, free Pampers, free rent, phone and EBT card.
It blows my mind how somebody that LIVES off free stuff will complain about something that they're already getting for free.
I say it's completely racist that they don't have a free service for wiping their own......

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08-27-2013 02:13 PM  5 years agoPost 5
es1co2bar3

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Demicrat/republucan dont be F N ridiculous ok the
Sucker who talking about shutting down government they
Got healt care ok.

Babyuh1 2 million PEEP is already bankrupt by health care.

Bottom line if you dont understand healthcare before
Then you wont understand Obama care.

Put the 2 together obamacare save life.

The Republican are being lobbied and they fall for it and want to F us,

Ask your right wing counter part to break this down yo you at the elementary LVL the sucker will not
Do it.

As he want you think your holding the blade of the knife and obamacare got the handle.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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08-27-2013 02:21 PM  5 years agoPost 6
rcmiket

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Answer this question.

Why did they exempt themselves from it?[quote]

Mike

"When Inverted down is up and up is expensive"

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08-27-2013 02:23 PM  5 years agoPost 7
fla heli boy

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so EVERY single story about people losing their insurance, having to drop their doctor, paying double for less insurance....ALL of those stories and studies are lies right???
As usual, the only people that make out on Obamacare are scumbag leaches that never contribute a lick to this country.
When all of the young college dopes that voted for this a$$clown get out on their own and realize they're paying a huge number to support us old farts, there's gonna be a revolt.
Problem is, by then the damage will be done and your batty king will be living like one out in Hawaii....laughing the entire time that you suckers bought the crap he was selling.

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08-27-2013 02:31 PM  5 years agoPost 8
rcmiket

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so EVERY single story about people losing their insurance, having to drop their doctor, paying double for less insurance....ALL of those stories and studies are lies right???
In esco's eyes yes. He's way too closed minded to see any of the facts. It's all a plot by the "man" to keep him down.

Mike

"When Inverted down is up and up is expensive"

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08-27-2013 02:36 PM  5 years agoPost 9
baby uh1

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Babyuh1 2 million PEEP is already bankrupt by health care.
That's much better than TWO HUNDRED MILLION bankrupt and jobless!
Bottom line if you dont understand healthcare before
Then you wont understand Obama care.
You prove that with everyone of your posts.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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08-27-2013 02:42 PM  5 years agoPost 10
rcmiket

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Everybody who say the healthcare is no good they xant tell what bad about it
Bull$hit. It's been covered even by the "lame" stream media. Premium costs skyrocketing, Companies pulling spouse coverage due to cost and so on. You just don't want to admit that there's something fishy here.
Bottom line if you dont understand healthcare before
Then you wont understand Obama care.
How can anyone understand something that was passed into law without reading it dumb ass?

Once again esco.

Why did they exempt themselves from it?
Ask your right wing counter part to break this down yo you at the elementary
Ask your left wing buddies ( along with the right) to be under the same health care laws they expect us "peasants" to abide by.

Mike

"When Inverted down is up and up is expensive"

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08-27-2013 03:47 PM  5 years agoPost 11
rcmiket

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By U-T San Diego Editorial Board 5 p.m.July 8, 2013

If it can go wrong, will go wrong” the slogan of Obamacare? If not, it should be.

Consider what’s happened the last week alone. First the White House announced that it was delaying for a year — until Jan. 1, 2015 — the Affordable Care Act mandate that employers with 50 or more workers provide health insurance. This is tantamount to admitting that implementing this key provision of Obamacare is going poorly and that if it were enforced, it would hurt Democrats in the November 2014 congressional elections.

Then Washington Post reporters surveying 600-plus pages of rules for Obamacare that were released in a classic late-Friday document dump came upon this jaw-dropper: In 16 states setting up their own health insurance “exchanges,” including California, those who sign up for heavily subsidized versions of Obamacare by declaring they are poor don’t even to have to prove it — they just have to “attest” to their income.

Given that we’re still struggling to recover from a deep economic downturn caused by a housing bubble that was partly driven by just such a trust-don’t-verify attitude on income, this is astounding. If you give people incentive to cheat, lots will cheat. So if millions more Americans receive subsidies than expected, what is the result? An explosion in the already-gigantic cost of Obamacare.

So why would the president think it acceptable to encourage mass cheating that rips off taxpayers? As with the delay of the employer mandate, there’s an obvious cynical motive. Giving away subsidized health insurance to anyone who asks for it is a way to goose participation in Obamacare and create the impression it is off to a fast start — with the aforementioned 2014 elections looming.

So what more can go wrong? The bad news is lots. It is inevitable, given the shabby, secretive way the massive law was put together.

Here’s a particularly ridiculous example: As the law is now written, it appears to give states an incentive to shift their retirement health insurance programs to Obamacare programs — at vast cost. The same holds for counties in California and the medical services they provide their jail inmates.

So much has gone so wrong so quickly with Obamacare that even past supporters are off the bandwagon or ready to jump. For the good of the country, the law should be scrapped. But considering the president still thinks it is his signature accomplishment, that is unlikely to happen.

Here’s a smart step Obama may be willing to take: delaying implementation of the entire law — not just the employer mandate — for a year. That makes far more sense than revamping one-sixth of the economy with a such a defective blueprint.
Here's some of this issues with obamacare. Even you esco should be able to comprehend this.

Mike

"When Inverted down is up and up is expensive"

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08-27-2013 05:46 PM  5 years agoPost 12
es1co2bar3

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Mike the Republican has long being oppose to obamacare, long before it was even implanted.

You cant be against a legislation that is not yet on
Paper,

The health care isn't much different from what mitt Romney was using in PA, it work then' so why not now.

The 1st good thing of obamacare under the old health care mandate, if you go into a ER and they gave you
2 asprin that would cost you $160 plus $250 to administer. This the 1st fix. If you have no INS
You just pay that $410

Under obamacare 2 asprin $90 no administer charge
You got INS you pay nothing but your co_pay.

What's causing the riff raff with obamacare is the part that say your health care have to be mandatory.
That it.

What stipid azz dont want to have mandatory health care.
The Republican who want American tax payerto pick up their un paid medical bills.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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08-27-2013 06:28 PM  5 years agoPost 13
Dr. Fibinotchi

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hmm
"The health care isn't much different from what mitt Romney was using in PA, it work then' so why not now"

Actually if you google search on youtube, or find a valid site of all the things wrong with Obama care, costs, and what its loaded with only an ignorant person would shout YES to Obama care.

-=Cody

If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion.

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08-27-2013 06:49 PM  5 years agoPost 14
max232

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Do you want to pay for someone who is 500lbs or smokes 4 packs a day, who will most assuredly have high health problems?
If the government is handling the health care, how long before they tell you your not allowed to eat twinkies and cupcakes anymore?

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08-27-2013 07:24 PM  5 years agoPost 15
baby uh1

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This is tantamount to admitting that implementing this key provision of Obamacare is going poorly and that if it were enforced, it would hurt Democrats in the November 2014 congressional elections.
Open admission that Obamacare is a mistake and no one wants it!
So what more can go wrong? The bad news is lots. It is inevitable, given the shabby, secretive way the massive law was put together.
No one likes this illegal law, let it die!
So much has gone so wrong so quickly with Obamacare that even past supporters are off the bandwagon or ready to jump. For the good of the country, the law should be scrapped. But considering the president still thinks it is his signature accomplishment, that is unlikely to happen.
And that's the problem, only Obama's stupid pride keeps this travesty going.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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08-27-2013 07:49 PM  5 years agoPost 16
es1co2bar3

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There's nothing wrong with obama care apart from it
Is mandatory that folks must have it.
If you dont want it forced on you, then you need
Not to go to the ER when your dying, just dont create
Any medical static for tax player. Because you didn't
Want health care force on you stay home and die.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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08-27-2013 08:21 PM  5 years agoPost 17
nitro fun

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Esco the supreme court said obamacare is a tax!

It is controlled by the IRS!

30,000 pages of fluff on getting tax money....fees, fines, regulations

Obamacare dont provide heath care...

All business and all citizens has to show the irs what heath care you have,,

All government goons and wellfair leaches have heath care paid for by taxpayers.... Then the taxpayers have to buy their own heathcare

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08-27-2013 08:57 PM  5 years agoPost 18
rcmiket

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There's nothing wrong with obama care
Then why are all the politicians exempt from it if it's so great?
If you dont want it forced on you
We have no choice it's a law dumb ass.

Mike

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08-27-2013 09:00 PM  5 years agoPost 19
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The government plan was to reduce the cost of heathcare and make it more available for everyone.

These are good intentions. We all would like cheaper health care, and we would all like for more people to have that.

The problem is the plan is not making it cheaper.

The number of people who will have insurance will also not be going up.

The democrats were told about these problems, but they would not listen.

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08-27-2013 09:12 PM  5 years agoPost 20
Dennis (RIP)

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Just wait until escoboob gets his bill for his ObummerCare.

He'll be crying like a little girl.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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