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09-08-2013 12:52 PM  5 years agoPost 521
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and they have responded to it with a new theory of Intelligent Falling.
Sorry out but you misunderstand intelligent falling. They are making a statemnent about the fallying of intelligence levels in the world

Hoggy
BTW Tigers are solitary animals
I only said cheetas monkeys got together to play ball
Come on Tom you know it's an example of a modern animal used to present a real life account of how this works. You do realise we are Animals don't you?
I agree we are mammals. But is it not a proven scientific fact that if you eat to much and don't exercise you will become lazy and fat? We humans get fat because we eat to much ,not because we are storing up for a time af hibernation or sense a time of famine. We do it on purpose because we like food.
Mammals were never able to get ahead of the Dinosaurs they ruled the earth for around 160 million years only dying out 65million years ago. The Dinosaurs were the and still are the most successful creature to ever have ruled the earth. We have many millions of years to catch up.
Well it would seem natural selection showed you who
was more able to survive now didn't it?
This stands to reason all wild animals go through this. When I say wild I mean those not effected by modern man.
Its a shame you feel yourself so highly that you can critique evolutions faults yet think of yourself less then what it is quite obvious we really are.

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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09-08-2013 02:15 PM  5 years agoPost 522
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Let's also look at the idea of vanity. Although ther may some animals that we fell act vain to some extent such as a cat preening itself seems vain or prissy , we humans seem to be the only one who truely are vain in our behavior. Why is this and how does it fit in evolutional thought.

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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09-09-2013 01:43 AM  5 years agoPost 523
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Tomas, in considering that male lion, the evolutionist have to wonder why would nature give a wild animal the ability to learn to love, with that the evolutionist would most likely argue that it is just bonding, but you can clearly see that lion does love those 2 guys

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09-09-2013 01:49 PM  5 years agoPost 524
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Outhouse,
I went and read up on the "Intelligent Falling" If they allow that into schools they are going to have to open the doors to every stupid idea the Flying Spaghetti Monster will have a field day. Tom I think your right referring to it as failing intelligence. Here's a link.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/ev...h-new-int,1778/
I only said cheetas monkeys got together to play ball
Sorry you said this sounded like a blanket type statement.
Animals live in groups ,hunt in groups and protect their group from other preditors all the time this is instinctual!
I agree we are mammals. But is it not a proven scientific fact that if you eat to much and don't exercise you will become lazy and fat? We humans get fat because we eat to much ,not because we are storing up for a time af hibernation or sense a time of famine. We do it on purpose because we like food.
I know this is me being picky but I did say animals yes we belong to the mammal group. Yes of course it is a fact that if you eat to much and don't exercise enough you will get fat. That answers the question of HOW, Darwinian Medicine is answering the question of WHY we like to eat food and not exercise. IE why we are not programed to eat and exercise in moderation. Understanding the reasons WHY we are this way helps with solutions to the problems.

You need to understand that Darwinian Medicine in many different medical fields works. It doesn't work by accident and yes it's still relatively new and we don't fully understand it yet. And again you need to understand that in the last 100 years science has helped us understand many things and will continue to uncover life's mysteries.
Well it would seem natural selection showed you who
was more able to survive now didn't it?
If we were around we would have died too

The asteroid that killed the dinosaurs was the Chicxulub asteroid in the Yucatan Peninsula, Mexico. The Chicxulub Crater is approximately 180 km in diameter and 10 km deep. The crater was formed about 65 million years ago when a very large celestial body impacted the Earth. The Chicxulub Crater was formed by an biolide ( either an asteroid or a comet) that was roughly 10 km in diameter and it hit with 100 million megatons of force.
http://www.universetoday.com/36697/...-the-dinosaurs/
This stuff can be backed up over and over again.

Just to give you an idea the Hiroshima bomb was 22-kiloton.

I'm not sure that vanity has been studied at length for Darwinian Medicine. To be fair I think the Question Gearhead raises is more interesting "Love" is a rather irrational emotion. There are many debates on forums about this but no real clear cut studies.

However there may well be a very good reason from a survival point of very Human baby's are for example very vulnerable when compared to many other animals.

GH has mentioned from the video I posted from the story "A Lion Called Christian" I agree it's very difficult to understand what's going on and it's unlikely anyone will ever get to study something like this again. And I agree I believe the lion does (Or did) love those guys and that after 1 year apart I don't think you could call it bonding. Be carful though don't make jumps to the supernatural! You are also admitting that the lion has emotions and a consciousness. BTW this is a great story no matter who you are and what you believe.
http://www.alioncalledchristian.com.au/

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09-09-2013 08:55 PM  5 years agoPost 525
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I was wondering how long it would take the tards to realize it was all POE

I knew you would catch it lol

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09-09-2013 08:57 PM  5 years agoPost 526
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in considering that male lion, the evolutionist have to wonder why would nature gave a wild animal the ability to learn to love, with that the evolutionist would most likely argue that it is just bonding, but you can clearly see that lion does love those 2 guys
Is it not tarded to think animals don't have parental love?

Its obvious they do.

Also one is branded a tard by using the term evolutionist.

Are you one of those gravitationist too?

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09-09-2013 10:53 PM  5 years agoPost 527
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Also one is branded a tard by using the term evolutionist.
You shouldn't talk about yourself that way. I don't see anybody but you calling you by that name

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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09-10-2013 02:57 AM  5 years agoPost 528
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Be carful though don't make jumps to the supernatural!
oh no, no, you do not want to prove the supernatural, not evolutionists.. but many scientist today do believe that all things in the universe are connected, because all the Atoms in the universe came from the same place, and many Atoms get reused over and over and over again, so if all things are connected wouldn't that be supernatural.. there are sane people, doctors, believing in, and studying ESP, if ESP is real, even to a minuet point, it would prove supernatural, they have not been studying ESP or 50 years for no reason..

gee, could that be proof of life after death, well, not to evolutionists, they have no chance in believing

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09-10-2013 01:08 PM  5 years agoPost 529
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oh no, no, you do not want to prove the supernatural
I'm happy to believe anything so long as at can be proven with real evidence.

If you somehow think you can prove something supernatural the stage is yours.
many scientist today do believe that all things in the universe are connected, because all the Atoms in the universe came from the same place, and many Atoms get reused over and over and over again, so if all things are connected wouldn't that be supernatural
No that wouldn't be supernatural it can all be explained suggest you do some study.
there are sane people, doctors, believing in, and studying ESP, if ESP is real, even to a minuet point, it would prove supernatural, they have not been studying ESP or 50 years for no reason..
Yeah your government has spent millions of dollars on it. Along with many other studies. No that would more likely support evolution. So what they have been studying it for a long time there are many claims people make about being capable of it. It's worth investigating doesn't mean it's real but who knows maybe one day we will evolve that skill.
gee, could that be proof of life after death, well, not to evolutionists, they have no chance in believing
ESP? no it wouldn't be proof of life after death. Again if you can prove life after death go for it.

The mountains of evidence for evolution still stand.

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09-10-2013 09:58 PM  5 years agoPost 530
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No that wouldn't be supernatural it can all be explained
nutz, because you say so
ESP? no it wouldn't be proof of life after death
oh, now that would have to be provon now wouldn't it, I mean you can't just say it's so because you believe it <<<< like every thing else you say,,,,,, wow
No that would more likely support evolution
LOL nutz again, just because
you
say so LOL wow
The mountains of evidence for evolution still stand
I'm not talking about evolution

hey Hoggy, why don't you just say it's true because you say so

Jim
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09-10-2013 10:09 PM  5 years agoPost 531
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hey Hoggy, why don't you just say it's true because you say so LOL
Tards that never go to college say similar things.

Its true because of factual evidence.

Its true because it is taught in every major university around the world as higher education.

Only certain theist try and poorly denounce it out of severe ignorance.

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09-11-2013 03:07 PM  5 years agoPost 532
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Gearhead go and back up your claims with a few facts and we'll talk stop wasting my time explaining everything to you that you don't/can't understand.

In the other thread there was a comment about birds.

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evoli...cle/evograms_06
The discovery that birds evolved from small carnivorous dinosaurs of the Late Jurassic was made possible by recently discovered fossils from China, South America, and other countries, as well as by looking at old museum specimens from new perspectives and with new methods. The hunt for the ancestors of living birds began with a specimen of Archaeopteryx, the first known bird, discovered in the early 1860s. Like birds, it had feathers along its arms and tail, but unlike living birds, it also had teeth and a long bony tail. Furthermore, many of the bones in Archaeopteryx's hands, shoulder girdles, pelvis, and feet were distinct, not fused and reduced as they are in living birds. Based on these characteristics, Archaeopteryx was recognized as an intermediate between birds and reptiles; but which reptiles?
Follow the link for more

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09-12-2013 07:49 PM  5 years agoPost 533
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I understand now!

Team- unbiased opinion.K.I.S.S principle upheld here

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09-13-2013 10:14 AM  5 years agoPost 534
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09-13-2013 10:28 AM  5 years agoPost 535
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Wow,so God invented manual transmissionOr would that be Auto???

Team- unbiased opinion.K.I.S.S principle upheld here

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09-13-2013 01:39 PM  5 years agoPost 536
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Thanks Raptormandan,

Interesting read

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09-13-2013 09:58 PM  5 years agoPost 537
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gears
thats what i thought

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09-14-2013 03:16 PM  5 years agoPost 538
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gears

thats what i thought
Just to be clear are you trying to say that these Gears support creation?

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09-19-2013 02:56 PM  5 years agoPost 539
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Hoggy from your vid you posted in the bible thread. The person on the vid stated that faith is an evil infecting the population. The results of evil can be seen in reality but it is not physical in nature ,but what from your point of view is evil and how do you think evolution explaines it and to even go further we can explore emotions as well ?

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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09-20-2013 03:33 PM  5 years agoPost 540
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Thomas he has a name and regardless of if you like him or not he is a professor he is very well educated... Well he like William Craig Lane or Kurt Wise deserves some respect. Just saying.

Clearly some emotions that have us behave in irrational ways may well benefit the species. One might look at love as a way of triggering protective behaviour often adrenaline allows people strength or courage they wouldn't normally have.

Evil can not really be called an emotion. It's a word we use to describe someone's behaviour.

A bigger and more difficult question might be is psychopathic behaviour an advantage.

On a side note did you see this?

http://www.news.com.au/technology/s...c-1226723186041
It will be very exciting to see the results from this. If true this may well explain the origins of life on Earth.

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