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07-10-2013 01:39 AM  4 years agoPost 21
Weng

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Norfolk, MA

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John(Weng) where do you fly?
Our field is in Mansfield MA right off RT495. You can go to http://www.Nehelicrew.com for directions and more information.
We have people that fly Logo's at the field and we have someone that used to have an NX4, not sure if he still does.
We are up to about 80 members so we have people flying just about anything you can think of...as long as it's a helicopter, no planks allowed.
Let me know if you want to come down. If I can't meet you there I will hook you up with someone.

And I think everyone will agree, you don't want to miss the Phenom in September (info on the web site.)

John

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07-10-2013 02:40 AM  4 years agoPost 22
Santiago P

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The best advice...find a local pro, ask them for help. If they have time you supply the beer and food and go to town...your tutoring will be invaluable and youll learn a lot. Unfortunatally there is a lot of hand holding in this hobby get started now
Although many have echo the same in few words or a book (dkshema) , the words above is a perfect answer to the OP.

this hobby always has, and will be mostly about experienced folks holding new folks hands through the learning process.
There is lots of good info out there to read, but nothing takes the place of passed down experience

DO NOT expect manufacturers do more that what a very few of them do already.

Santiago

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07-10-2013 11:14 AM  4 years agoPost 23
yammx

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Munich, Germany

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I think it started decades ago when the shops selling this hobby stuff said "I take no responsibility" whatever will happen with this flying stuff and people were so addicted that they said, ok no problem I will buy it despite.
It is not accepted in this way when it comes to anything else that is sold, but only to this RC stuff.
Imagine the brakes of your car fail you die and all people (manufacturer, police) are saying, it is always the fault of the drive because he decided to buy a car.
For me whats going on especially when it comes to expensive flying stuff there is no excuse!
There are no lemon kits but there are lemon parts that make lemon kits. I experienced it many times myself and I can follow the TO.

Thats my personal HO...!

So why is the main blade holder of my Align450 Sport 4,6mm and the genuine 325 Align blades 5,0mm???

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07-10-2013 12:25 PM  4 years agoPost 24
McKrackin

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Lucasville,Ohio

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So why is the main blade holder of my Align450 Sport 4,6mm and the genuine 325 Align blades 5,0mm???
Because there's a gnats hair too much paint on the blade root.
Just stuff it in there.lol...

That kind of stuff is just nit picking.
Now if you'd said the hole in your blades was on the wrong end...that's different

The hobby shops and manufacturers can't be held responsible for anything AFTER you crashed though...You can scream from the rooftops that a bad part caused it but you can't prove it.

Your heli is going to crash...period.
There's no way to say why so there can be no warranty.

This is an "As Is" hobby...New or used.
Any hobby shop or manufacturer that does anything to compensate you after you use a product is going above and beyond what they are required.

Electronics can leave a factory in top notch shape and simply go bad in the mail or in a warehouse...Mishandled...Moisture...who knows?...Not their problem,nor should it be.

If ALL the electronics they ship one day goes bad,that's different and most places will put out recalls and offer free upgrades or replacements if that happens.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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07-10-2013 12:40 PM  4 years agoPost 25
yammx

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That kind of stuff is just nit picking
I don´t think so.
Now if you'd said the hole in your blades was on the wrong end...that's different
Then it is the customers fault of course...

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07-10-2013 12:43 PM  4 years agoPost 26
McKrackin

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I don´t think so.
0.4mm in paint thickness?

Yes it is.lol...Mercedes has a wider margin of tolerance there.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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07-10-2013 01:11 PM  4 years agoPost 27
Ronald Thomas

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Gainesville, Fl, USA

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R/C Helis are very rewarding and can be very frustrating as well. We all need help sometimes and I find that weeding through all the base advice and finding the advice that works for you and your own situation is key. Some things are a constant like having a good solid airframe setup correctly, but some things are fluid like how a Heli "feels" in the air. I personally found that buying cheap means you usually buy twice but that has not been your experience (the clone).
Don't give up, find the right help, have fun!

Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!

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07-10-2013 02:36 PM  4 years agoPost 28
yammx

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0.4mm in paint thickness?

Yes it is.lol...Mercedes has a wider margin of tolerance there.
Yes you are right, soooo right...

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07-14-2013 08:53 PM  4 years agoPost 29
dkshema

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Cedar Rapids, IA

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ANDY -- back to your NX4 for a moment.

Did you install a header tank, and if so, what brand? Andy chance you can post a good clear picture of the header tank, including the stopper and the fuel line fitting coming out of it?

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Dave

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07-14-2013 09:32 PM  4 years agoPost 30
HeliNutAndy

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worcester, MA USA

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I hope you can see what you need if not I will try to go outside with the model.

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07-14-2013 09:37 PM  4 years agoPost 31
McKrackin

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Lucasville,Ohio

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Cool...The header tank is almost as big as the main tank.

I get about 30 seconds from my header tank with my OS105.lol....

I literally never use the word literally right.

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07-14-2013 10:06 PM  4 years agoPost 32
HeliNutAndy

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worcester, MA USA

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I'd like to see a 105. The little 37 screams if you ask me. I am waiting for a servo so I flew my 130 last night. There was a very fine mist and no wind. I forgot how fun those micros are too.
Did you install a header tank, and if so, what brand?
As far as the name brand.. all I have from my receipt is:

GAUI NX4 AUXILIARY FUEL TANK SET(60CC 2.1OZ)

There is a small logo on the tank that has the following letters raised in plastic near the left bottom.

Zerc Taiwain

I searched a bit and couldn't find anything out there on that brand or manufacturer.

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07-14-2013 10:18 PM  4 years agoPost 33
McKrackin

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I'd like to see a 105.
Work of art in my opinion...

I literally never use the word literally right.

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07-14-2013 10:57 PM  4 years agoPost 34
dkshema

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Cedar Rapids, IA

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The reason I asked about your header tank, is that yesterday I took my NX4 out to fly, began to fill the tank, and found my header leaking pretty badly around the fuel stopper.

The tank I'm using uses this kind of hardware:

Thinking the hex nut had loosened up, I tried to tighten it, to no avail. When I got home later that day, I found the rubber stopper -- big black rubber donut on the right in the picture -- had split.

I thought maybe you had used a tank with a similar plumbing setup and perhaps your engine tuning problems may have been related to a leaky stopper in your header.

I see that you use something similar to a Quick UK tank, that has a completely different assembly method.

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Dave

* Making the World Better -- One Helicopter at a time! *

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07-14-2013 11:26 PM  4 years agoPost 35
McKrackin

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Lucasville,Ohio

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My header tank also leaked pretty bad.

I run a bead of CA glue around it and it hasn't leaked a drop in about 20 flights.

I figure the tank is cheap enough that when the fuel line eventually weakens...in a year or two...I'll replace the whole tank.

At that time,I'll get a new tank and cut a new hole around the area that accepts the rubber grommet.
That way I can install an Avant pick up system.
They NEVER leak.

They have a compression type fitting...tighten a bolt that compresses the rubber and expands it to tighten up in the hole.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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07-15-2013 10:15 PM  4 years agoPost 36
Santiago P

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South West, Ohio

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this thread reminds me of two of my favorites quotes:

"On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero."

that's ^^^ for any heli

and

"A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one."

Now rephrase that to
"the helicopter built by this company is doing tic-toc in front of you, the swash links pop or fail and smack the pilot right on the..."

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