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07-10-2013 03:55 PM  5 years agoPost 41
777ER

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Korean/Asian pilots training;

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-a...d=160&admin=yes

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07-10-2013 04:58 PM  5 years agoPost 42
SSN Pru

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and botched it bad as he came in
Really? He botched it? That's putting it lightly.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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07-10-2013 07:21 PM  5 years agoPost 43
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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — After departing from Shanghai and stopping in Seoul, Asiana Flight 214 makes its final approach into San Francisco International Airport following a 10-hour flight across the Pacific Ocean. A preliminary review of the crash by U.S. investigators turns up the following:

—APPROACH PROCEEDS NORMALLY: Pilot Lee Gang-guk, making his first landing at San Francisco in a Boeing 777, is at the controls. His training instructor, Lee Jeong-min, is the co-pilot. They receive clearance from air traffic control to land without instrument landing system. Visibility is about 10 miles with winds out of the southwest at 7 knots. There are no distress calls or special requests in the air traffic control tapes that captured the discussion between the tower and the Asiana pilots.

—PLANE DESCENDS: At 1,600 feet and 82 seconds before impact, the autopilot is disengaged, a normal procedure. At 1,400 feet and 73 seconds before impact, the plane's speed is about 170 knots. At 500 feet and 34 seconds before impact, the speed has dropped to 134 knots, just below the optimal landing speed of 137 knots that the pilots believe has been programmed into the "autothrottle." Lee Jeong-min recognizes the plane is coming in too low and tells Lee Gang-guk to "pull back."

—16 SECONDS OUT: Plane is at 200 feet and traveling at 118 knots. The Precision Approach Path Indicator that uses red and white lights to tell pilots if they are approaching correctly is all red, indicating the plane is much too low. Lee Jeong-min recognizes the autothrottle isn't maintaining the proper speed.

—8 SECONDS OUT: At an altitude of 125 feet, the plane is traveling at 112 knots when the throttles begin moving forward.

—4 SECONDS OUT: The stick shaker, a yoke the pilots hold, begins vibrating, indicating the plane could stall.

—3 SECONDS OUT: The plane is traveling at 103 knots, the slowest speed recorded by the flight data recorder. The engines begin increasing power from 50 percent.

— 1.5 SECONDS OUT: From the cockpit comes a call to abort the landing and go around for another try.

—CRASH: The plane, which has increased its speed to 106 knots, clips the seawall at the end of the runway with its landing gear and then its tail, which breaks off. Two flight attendants in the back of the plane are ejected but survive. The plane spins on the runway and slides to a stop. The controller declares an emergency and rescue vehicles rush to the scene.

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07-12-2013 03:10 AM  5 years agoPost 44
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A case of piss pour piloting!

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07-12-2013 05:15 PM  5 years agoPost 45
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A very accurate reconstruction of the crash of Asiana flight 214

Watch at YouTube

Speed of light is greater than speed of sound. Some people seem very bright until U hear them speak

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07-13-2013 02:54 AM  5 years agoPost 46
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Watch at YouTube

someone is in trouble.

My heli is right side up -- the world is upside down

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07-13-2013 11:22 AM  5 years agoPost 47
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ROFLMAO
great way to start my day.

That clip is going to haunt that anchor lady for the rest of her career.

Guess her schtick shaker wasn't working.

BTW, there's an intern opening at the FAA/NTSB

RapRexSynLogo Pilot

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07-13-2013 04:07 PM  5 years agoPost 48
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seflyer....I was just coming here to post that!!! Funny when she says "names were confirmed".... Ouch....

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07-13-2013 08:22 PM  5 years agoPost 49
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the scary thing is that the NTSB confirmed it, somebody was asleep at the wheel to let that slip by. can't believe she read that with a straight face beyond Some Ting Wong.

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07-13-2013 10:19 PM  5 years agoPost 50
rcmiket

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the scary thing is that the NTSB confirmed it,
I'm not surprised at all just look at the rest of the government agencies that are FUBAR. This is now par for the course.

Mike

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07-14-2013 03:49 AM  5 years agoPost 51
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fwiw...
"Guess her schtick shaker wasn't working"

Sadly, one of the critical,victims just died...Her name has been confirmed as Mie Ded Tiu.....

Sorry...

BC

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07-15-2013 07:34 AM  5 years agoPost 52
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I think the tail was in the water well before it hit the sea wall. It reared up when the tail's ripped off after hitting the wall.

Doesn't matter what engine's it's got, if they don't get fed fuel it ain't going to accelerate ;-)

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07-15-2013 08:59 PM  5 years agoPost 53
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I read earlier today the Airline is going to sue the TV station for damaging the companies image and for making racist and degrading remarks when they falsely named the crew. It's still funny as hell though. Not the crash but the news screw up.I would have liked to be a fly on the wall in that meeting.

I love the smell of nitro in the morning..

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07-15-2013 09:04 PM  5 years agoPost 54
Dennis (RIP)

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They are just trying to recover costs.

Its going to be in the multi millions.

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07-16-2013 09:10 AM  5 years agoPost 55
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well its good to see that americans aren't the only ones lost grip with reality...

uh yea that makes a load of sense...lets sue the news because they got the name of the $hitty pilots that cant land a plane on a bluebird day wrong....
and the reason we sue will be they are defaming our company because...well because not being able to land a airliner VFR on a clear day with good conditions is very conducive to making a bulletproof reputation for a company!
Irony!
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07-18-2013 11:12 AM  5 years agoPost 56
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The airline thought better of the lawsuit and decided not to file.

Believe 1/2 of what you see and none of what you hear.
Fake News will be the downfall of our Republic!

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07-18-2013 04:19 PM  5 years agoPost 57
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Some pictures of the interior after the fire.
The impact was really hard as you can see from the collapsed seats that didn't burn.
They need to stop using so much plastics that burn in the interior of these planes.



I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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07-18-2013 04:26 PM  5 years agoPost 58
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Couple more pictures, what a mess. Imagine trying to get out with this mess of collapsed seats and dumped overheads.


I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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07-18-2013 05:35 PM  5 years agoPost 59
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Hard to believe more people didn't die from this accident.

thinking about this I can understand how the air crew failed to notice the airspeed. They have 1000's of hrs. but I wonder how many of those hrs were spent on approaches without auto throttle. Probably very few.

This reminds me of the accidents where an aircraft is landed with the wheels still in the belly. Should never happen but it does because some of use spent most of our cockpit time in a Cherokee 140. Put us in an Arrow and we 'forget' about the landing gear on approach. So you get a dummy warning buzzer that sounds when airspeed drops to a certain level and landing gear is still up.

too bad they didn't have an audible warning about the airspeed above the stick shaker.

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07-18-2013 05:44 PM  5 years agoPost 60
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they're already sueing BOEING!!! Now how the heck is Boeing culpable??? Madness.... We're a sick country and the lawyers will drag us all to hell....

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